A couple of years ago, I was given a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Sport. It was all original except for the tires and grips.
I slapped a new saddle on it (to replace the broken Brooks), replaced the shifter and cable, and removed the grease that had been injected into the AW hub. It then became my commuter bike.
Being the cheapskate I am, I didn't replace the brake blocks. The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
After reading Sheldon Brown's glowing comments regarding the Kool Stop salmon pads, I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
You think they are good now, try changing your steel rim for an aluminum alloy one. That'll make an even bigger difference.
A couple of years ago, I was given a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Sport. It was all original except for the tires and grips.
I slapped a new saddle on it (to replace the broken Brooks), replaced the shifter and cable, and removed the grease that had been injected into the AW hub. It then became my commuter bike.
Being the cheapskate I am, I didn't replace the brake blocks. The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
After reading Sheldon Brown's glowing comments regarding the Kool Stop salmon pads, I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
John Thurston Juneau, Alaska
My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me down!!! -- Phil, Squid-in-Training
A couple of years ago, I was given a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Sport. It was all original except for the tires and grips.
I slapped a new saddle on it (to replace the broken Brooks), replaced the shifter and cable, and removed the grease that had been injected into the AW hub. It then became my commuter bike.
Being the cheapskate I am, I didn't replace the brake blocks. The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
After reading Sheldon Brown's glowing comments regarding the Kool Stop salmon pads, I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
John Thurston Juneau, Alaska
My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me down!!!
Ummmm.... don't you *want* your brake pads to slow you down?
My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me down!!!
And how exactly have the brake pads caused flats?
Jeff
Oy... rhetorical smilies don't translate well...
If your original post was an attempt at humor, it failed miseably. For a moment I thought it might be an attempt at humor, but seeing nothing funny, I dismissed that idea.
If somebody does research, at a later date, they will take your post as being serious. Which helps no one.
(snip) The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
I put Kool Stops on a bike with steel wheels and they do seem to help, so I am a fan.
However (maybe because of the .tech part of this newsgroups name) I just want to point out that the only thing your experience shows is that new Kool Stop pads work much better than god-knows-how-old (maybe 57 years old?) pads of unknown composition and origin. I don't think this particular experience is any evidence that Kool Stops are any better than any other new pad.
On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:50:00 -0400, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and > scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me > down!!!
And how exactly have the brake pads caused flats?
Jeff
Oy... rhetorical smilies don't translate well...
If your original post was an attempt at humor, it failed miseably. For a moment I thought it might be an attempt at humor, but seeing nothing funny, I dismissed that idea.
Interesting. So if there was nothing funny, why did you think for a moment it might be an attempt at humor? Brake pads = slowing down, ergo why would I not want it to do so?
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If somebody does research, at a later date, they will take your post as being serious. Which helps no one.
Warning! Unfunny thread!
Hopefully that'll set 'em straight. wink wink nudge nudge chuckle
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A couple of years ago, I was given a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Sport. It was all original except for the tires and grips.
I slapped a new saddle on it (to replace the broken Brooks), replaced the shifter and cable, and removed the grease that had been injected into the AW hub. It then became my commuter bike.
Being the cheapskate I am, I didn't replace the brake blocks. The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
After reading Sheldon Brown's glowing comments regarding the Kool Stop salmon pads, I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
Wet steel brakes poorly even with great pads. You would get better results if you had aluminum rims. ------------- Alex
A couple of years ago, I was given a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Sport. It was all original except for the tires and grips.
I slapped a new saddle on it (to replace the broken Brooks), replaced the shifter and cable, and removed the grease that had been injected into the AW hub. It then became my commuter bike.
Being the cheapskate I am, I didn't replace the brake blocks. The god-knows-how-old brake pads on the steel wheels made for poor stopping in the dry and a positively scary trip in the rain.
After reading Sheldon Brown's glowing comments regarding the Kool Stop salmon pads, I finally ordered up some Kool Stop pads from Harris Cyclery. Today was my first ride with them. Even in the morning rain they were phenomenal. I couldn't believe that just changing the pads would make such a big difference but I was wrong. The Kool Stop pads really do live up to their reputation and are just the ticket in rain country.
John Thurston Juneau, Alaska
My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me down!!! -- Phil, Squid-in-Training[/QUOTE]I have found them great, much better than othrs and much easier on rims.
Wet steel brakes poorly even with great pads. You would get better results if you had aluminum rims.
Agreed. One could also say that hydraulic disc brakes would give me even better results.
The point is that for a *very* small outlay of cash (1/10 the cost of an aluminum wheel) I was able to make a dramatic improvement in the braking performance.
Jeff Starr wrote: > On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:50:00 -0400, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> >> My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and >> scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me >> down!!! > > And how exactly have the brake pads caused flats? > > Jeff
Oy... rhetorical smilies don't translate well...
If your original post was an attempt at humor, it failed miseably. For a moment I thought it might be an attempt at humor, but seeing nothing funny, I dismissed that idea.
Interesting. So if there was nothing funny, why did you think for a moment it might be an attempt at humor? Brake pads = slowing down, ergo why would I not want it to do so?
Why, because you occasionally post nonsense. I know I'm wasting my time but, I'll try to explain it. It is this part of what you posted "My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats". So, where's the humor in that part of your post? The second part about slowing down, doesn't dismiss the first part.
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If somebody does research, at a later date, they will take your post as being serious. Which helps no one.
Warning! Unfunny thread!
Hopefully that'll set 'em straight. wink wink nudge nudge chuckle
I have no problem with and enjoy well written humor. It's not about "unfunny thread", it's about misinformation. Next time attach a smiley face and everyone will know it is an attempt at being funny.
On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:31:10 -0400, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Jeff Starr wrote: >> On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:50:00 -0400, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and >>> scrape up the rims and cause flats, not to mention slowing me >>> down!!! >> >> And how exactly have the brake pads caused flats? >> >> Jeff > > Oy... rhetorical smilies don't translate well...
If your original post was an attempt at humor, it failed miseably. For a moment I thought it might be an attempt at humor, but seeing nothing funny, I dismissed that idea.
Interesting. So if there was nothing funny, why did you think for a moment it might be an attempt at humor? Brake pads = slowing down, ergo why would I not want it to do so?
Why, because you occasionally post nonsense.
Gene and I share a common Floridian thread. 😉
I know I'm wasting my
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time but, I'll try to explain it. It is this part of what you posted "My experience is to the contrary! They have embedded grit and scrape up the rims and cause flats". So, where's the humor in that part of your post? The second part about slowing down, doesn't dismiss the first part.
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If somebody does research, at a later date, they will take your post as being serious. Which helps no one.
Warning! Unfunny thread!
Hopefully that'll set 'em straight. wink wink nudge nudge chuckle
I have no problem with and enjoy well written humor. It's not about "unfunny thread", it's about misinformation. Next time attach a smiley face and everyone will know it is an attempt at being funny.
Wet steel brakes poorly even with great pads. You would get better results if you had aluminum rims.
Agreed. One could also say that hydraulic disc brakes would give me even better results.
The point is that for a *very* small outlay of cash (1/10 the cost of an aluminum wheel) I was able to make a dramatic improvement in the braking performance.
John Thurston Juneau, Alaska
Would you say the benefit per dollar is the same between new brake pads and new rims?
Although it's probably not appropriate, to get even better braking power, a BMX trick is to smear tar or Coca-Cola on the rim. This gives you ultra-grabby power and OTB potential with steel rims. But the drawback is the requirement to reapply as it wears/washes off. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 10:10:42 -0400, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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I have no problem with and enjoy well written humor. It's not about "unfunny thread", it's about misinformation. Next time attach a smiley face and everyone will know it is an attempt at being funny.
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Agreed. One could also say that hydraulic disc brakes would give me even better results.
Only if you stayed with the steel rims. With aluminum rims, decent pads and decent canti's or direct pull brakes, you get great braking.
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The point is that for a *very* small outlay of cash (1/10 the cost of an aluminum wheel) I was able to make a dramatic improvement in the braking performance.
I know what you meant. It was more of a future upgrade path idea. Good luck. --------------- Alex
