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  1. I built a rear track wheel on a l/f hub last week and it's good in all
    respects except that many spokes are obviously kinked where they exit
    the nipple. Comparing it to the front wheel I built on Wednesday night
    (well, the weather is bad at the moment...) I think the nipples haven't
    been able to align themselves in the rim as well, but the most obvious
    difference is that the front wheel is on a s/f 105 hub.

    The track wheel (re)uses a Fuji-branded rim with no eyelets. The front
    wheel uses a Mavic Open 4CD rim. Both sets of spokes are 2.0/1.8mm
    double butted with brass nipples.

    Should I always build l/f wheels 2x instead of 3x? Is it just a cheapo
    rim? Is the kink in the spokes actually worth worrying about?

  2. The Fuji rim is probably "left hand" drilled rim. That is, hole off-set is
    opposite the typical, and what you have in the Mavic. You have to feed the
    spokes into the hub flanges differently to build the wheel properly. I
    don't think I could explain it here, but I bet you can find the reference in
    one of the bike wheel "bibles". . .

    To see the difference, look down at the valve hole from the hub. Look at
    the spoke hole immediately to the right of the valve hole. On the Mavic,
    you'll probably see that this hole is closer to you (maybe by just a mm or
    two) than the hole immediately to the left of the valve. This is refered to
    as "right hand" drilling (or F2 in Holland Mechanics-speak). On the Fuji
    rim, I bet the hole left of the valve is closer than that on the right, thus
    refered to as "left hand" drilled (or F1). . .

    Hope this helps. . .

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I built a rear track wheel on a l/f hub last week and it's good in all
    respects except that many spokes are obviously kinked where they exit
    the nipple. Comparing it to the front wheel I built on Wednesday night
    (well, the weather is bad at the moment...) I think the nipples haven't
    been able to align themselves in the rim as well, but the most obvious
    difference is that the front wheel is on a s/f 105 hub.

    The track wheel (re)uses a Fuji-branded rim with no eyelets. The front
    wheel uses a Mavic Open 4CD rim. Both sets of spokes are 2.0/1.8mm
    double butted with brass nipples.

    Should I always build l/f wheels 2x instead of 3x? Is it just a cheapo
    rim? Is the kink in the spokes actually worth worrying about?

  3. Oh, and it does matter. . . you will break spokes. . . I'd rebuild it with
    new spokes.

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I built a rear track wheel on a l/f hub last week and it's good in all
    respects except that many spokes are obviously kinked where they exit
    the nipple. Comparing it to the front wheel I built on Wednesday night
    (well, the weather is bad at the moment...) I think the nipples haven't
    been able to align themselves in the rim as well, but the most obvious
    difference is that the front wheel is on a s/f 105 hub.

    The track wheel (re)uses a Fuji-branded rim with no eyelets. The front
    wheel uses a Mavic Open 4CD rim. Both sets of spokes are 2.0/1.8mm
    double butted with brass nipples.

    Should I always build l/f wheels 2x instead of 3x? Is it just a cheapo
    rim? Is the kink in the spokes actually worth worrying about?

  4. Zog The Undeniable said:

    I built a rear track wheel on a l/f hub last week and it's good in all
    respects except that many spokes are obviously kinked where they exit
    the nipple. Comparing it to the front wheel I built on Wednesday night
    (well, the weather is bad at the moment...) I think the nipples haven't
    been able to align themselves in the rim as well, but the most obvious
    difference is that the front wheel is on a s/f 105 hub.

    The track wheel (re)uses a Fuji-branded rim with no eyelets. The front
    wheel uses a Mavic Open 4CD rim. Both sets of spokes are 2.0/1.8mm
    double butted with brass nipples.

    Should I always build l/f wheels 2x instead of 3x? Is it just a cheapo
    rim? Is the kink in the spokes actually worth worrying about?

    32h and 36h wheels usually 3 cross, 28h and 24h 2 cross.
    Are you sure you didn't lace the left spokes to the right
    side of the rim?

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. Neil Brooks was disappointed that this post was about...well, wheels.

    Bill "JFTR" S.

  6. S o r n i said:

    Neil Brooks was disappointed that this post was about...well, wheels.

    Bill "JFTR" S.

    I know better.

    It's the grammatically questionable title of a recent autobiography of
    a noted humorist, performer, columnist, musician, and current
    gubernatorial candidate of Texas.

    I'm not /all/ perv. Just the good parts ;-)

    MAN, it's raining....

  7. B i l l S o r n s o n said:

    Neil Brooks was disappointed that this post was about...well, wheels.

    Does "Kinky Cowboy" use wheels with kinky spokes?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth

  8. On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:21:12 -0600, Tom Sherman

    may have said:
    B i l l S o r n s o n said:

    Neil Brooks was disappointed that this post was about...well, wheels.

    Does "Kinky Cowboy" use wheels with kinky spokes?

    Nope. He's straight.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  9. A Muzi said:

    Zog The Undeniable wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    32h and 36h wheels usually 3 cross, 28h and 24h 2 cross.
    Are you sure you didn't lace the left spokes to the right side of the rim?


    Absolutely sure. It's 32h.

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