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  1. There was a pretty good segment on Kimkins on one of the morning shows
    this morning -- if you're still following the circus at LCF, you
    already know that.

    I tried to read some of the posts over there myself to answer this
    question, but it was too much. I must have found dozens of posts
    referring to the fact that the KK site says SingingLass lost 101
    pounds in a week. Well, of course that's not right. It's really hard
    to take anyone seriously who jumps up and down and screams about an
    obvious error being significant in any way to the argument. I'm
    beginning to wonder if even half of those people are over the age of
    twelve.

    From some of the comments, I can't help but wonder if I saw the same
    show they did.

    Anyway --

    They advertised that they were going to have a dietician and a doctor
    on to talk about how dangerous it is. I wondered at that time if
    these would be "pro-LC" professionals or "anti-LC" professionals.
    Turns out, they're definitely "anti-LC" professionals, so while the
    crusaders are high-fiving each other about how the dietician and the
    doctor trashed the KK plan --

    Does anyone who is actually able to keep up even a little bit know if
    any of them realized that neither of these people would support LC --
    probably, in *any* form at all -- even though *that's* the kind of
    plan most of them claim to follow?

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

  2. BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

    Arrrrrrgh.

    Cheri

  3. Cheri a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

    Arrrrrrgh.

    Cheri

    Omg! Cheri's already been murderized by her own ketosis.

    Huey

  4. Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.


    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a
    good thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession
    on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking
    pictures and such: http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  5. "Jackie Patti" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.


    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a good
    thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession on
    her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking pictures
    and such: http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    Oh, she's doing a Dr. Phil: Own it and move on.

  6. Jackie Patti said:
    Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    Quoted message said:

    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a
    good thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession
    on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking
    pictures and such:http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    Wow. So, lemme get this straight.
    1- I lied about who I am because of California's Foster Kids laws, but
    no one had to know you had foster kids until you told it out there.
    Just
    say "kids" and you're cool with California, right?

    2- I never lost 198 lbs. But I did lose half of that in about half
    time time
    I claimed. So, I was half truthful. Nevermind that 100 lbs in 6 months
    is
    really a better ad than some other number in a longer time frame. It's
    nice and round. And whose gonna say, "Only 100 lbs" or "What about
    the next hundred" or "What happened in month 7" or "Why not in
    five months?"

    3- I regained the weight. But I was so ashamed that I covered it up.
    With
    a photo of a mail order bride. Who didn't really look like me. To
    protect
    my foster family. And my shyness.

    4- I also lost contact with eveyone who had succeeded on the diet
    before,
    when I skipped from LCF (or whereever) and NONE of them would share
    their photos with me after the breakup. So, I figured if Russian
    Brides
    were good enough for me, they're good enough for some composite
    stories of the people who wouldn't let me use their picture anymore.

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    I guess it's a mea culpa in the shallowest sense. The kind that maybe
    gets you away from prosecution, but doesn't save you from an
    unpleasant
    afterlife (if you believe in such things... I don't).

  7. Hollywood said:
    Jackie Patti said:
    Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    >As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    >the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    Quoted message said:

    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a
    good thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession
    on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking
    pictures and such:http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    Wow. So, lemme get this straight.
    1- I lied about who I am because of California's Foster Kids laws, but
    no one had to know you had foster kids until you told it out there.
    Just
    say "kids" and you're cool with California, right?

    2- I never lost 198 lbs. But I did lose half of that in about half
    time time
    I claimed. So, I was half truthful. Nevermind that 100 lbs in 6 months
    is
    really a better ad than some other number in a longer time frame. It's
    nice and round. And whose gonna say, "Only 100 lbs" or "What about
    the next hundred" or "What happened in month 7" or "Why not in
    five months?"

    3- I regained the weight. But I was so ashamed that I covered it up.
    With
    a photo of a mail order bride. Who didn't really look like me. To
    protect
    my foster family. And my shyness.

    4- I also lost contact with eveyone who had succeeded on the diet
    before,
    when I skipped from LCF (or whereever) and NONE of them would share
    their photos with me after the breakup. So, I figured if Russian
    Brides
    were good enough for me, they're good enough for some composite
    stories of the people who wouldn't let me use their picture anymore.

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    I guess it's a mea culpa in the shallowest sense. The kind that maybe
    gets you away from prosecution, but doesn't save you from an
    unpleasant
    afterlife (if you believe in such things... I don't).

    It is probably good enough for a "Kimer". Remember what they have put
    up with already.

  8. Roger Zoul said:

    "Jackie Patti" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    > As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    > the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.
    >
    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a good
    thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession on
    her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking pictures
    and such: http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    Oh, she's doing a Dr. Phil: Own it and move on.

    I thought that was a Bill Clinton: "Mistakes were made, but we're moving
    on now; all you people who won't move on before all the evidence is even
    gathered are just obsessive cranks. Move on already." Or maybe now
    that's called a Bill Belichick.

    --
    Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

  9. Hollywood wrote:
    :: On Nov 12, 4:39 pm, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::: Cheri wrote:
    :::: BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...
    :::
    ::::: As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening
    ::::: and the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.
    :::
    :::: Arrrrrrgh.
    :::
    ::: Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't
    ::: a good thing without that nonsense.
    :::
    ::: There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE
    ::: confession on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along,
    ::: lying and faking pictures and
    ::: such:http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/
    ::
    :: Wow. So, lemme get this straight.
    :: 1- I lied about who I am because of California's Foster Kids laws,
    :: but no one had to know you had foster kids until you told it out
    :: there. Just
    :: say "kids" and you're cool with California, right?

    Of course, since they gave her real name and claims to have foster kids, she
    has not violated that law.

    ::
    :: 2- I never lost 198 lbs. But I did lose half of that in about half
    :: time time
    :: I claimed. So, I was half truthful. Nevermind that 100 lbs in 6
    :: months is
    :: really a better ad than some other number in a longer time frame.
    :: It's nice and round. And whose gonna say, "Only 100 lbs" or "What
    :: about the next hundred" or "What happened in month 7" or "Why not in
    :: five months?"
    ::
    :: 3- I regained the weight.

    Proof that rapid loss on an extreme diet just results in failure and yo-yo
    dieting. She is her own worst enemy. Any who continue to follow are are
    indeed foolish.

  10. Hollywood wrote:
    :: On Nov 12, 4:39 pm, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::: Cheri wrote:
    :::: BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...
    :::
    ::::: As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening
    ::::: and the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.
    :::
    :::: Arrrrrrgh.
    :::
    ::: Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't
    ::: a good thing without that nonsense.
    :::
    ::: There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE
    ::: confession on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along,
    ::: lying and faking pictures and
    ::: such:http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/
    ::
    :: Wow. So, lemme get this straight.
    :: 1- I lied about who I am because of California's Foster Kids laws,
    :: but no one had to know you had foster kids until you told it out
    :: there. Just
    :: say "kids" and you're cool with California, right?

    Of course, since they gave her real name and claims to have foster kids, she
    has not violated that law.

    ::
    :: 2- I never lost 198 lbs. But I did lose half of that in about half
    :: time time
    :: I claimed. So, I was half truthful. Nevermind that 100 lbs in 6
    :: months is
    :: really a better ad than some other number in a longer time frame.
    :: It's nice and round. And whose gonna say, "Only 100 lbs" or "What
    :: about the next hundred" or "What happened in month 7" or "Why not in
    :: five months?"
    ::
    :: 3- I regained the weight.

    Proof that rapid loss on an extreme diet just results in failure and yo-yo
    dieting. She is her own worst enemy. Any who continue to follow are are
    indeed foolish.

  11. On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:28:56 -0000, Hollywood <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Jackie Patti said:
    Cheri said:

    BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    > As a matter of fact, the doctor said ketosis is life-threatening and
    > the dietician said that our bodies need carbs.

    Quoted message said:

    Arrrrrrgh.

    Yeah, you'd think they could address the fact that starvation isn't a
    good thing without that nonsense.

    There's a great soap opera update! Kimmer has posted a HUGE confession
    on her site that she's been full of [censored] all along, lying and faking
    pictures and such:http://www.kimkins.com/content/view/1079/142/

    Wow. So, lemme get this straight.
    1- I lied about who I am because of California's Foster Kids laws, but
    no one had to know you had foster kids until you told it out there.
    Just
    say "kids" and you're cool with California, right?

    2- I never lost 198 lbs. But I did lose half of that in about half
    time time
    I claimed. So, I was half truthful. Nevermind that 100 lbs in 6 months
    is
    really a better ad than some other number in a longer time frame. It's
    nice and round. And whose gonna say, "Only 100 lbs" or "What about
    the next hundred" or "What happened in month 7" or "Why not in
    five months?"

    3- I regained the weight. But I was so ashamed that I covered it up.
    With
    a photo of a mail order bride. Who didn't really look like me. To
    protect
    my foster family. And my shyness.

    4- I also lost contact with eveyone who had succeeded on the diet
    before,
    when I skipped from LCF (or whereever) and NONE of them would share
    their photos with me after the breakup. So, I figured if Russian
    Brides
    were good enough for me, they're good enough for some composite
    stories of the people who wouldn't let me use their picture anymore.

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    Three?

    I know of two -- Christin and Deni -- that are very public and
    appeared on the show. Other than that, there are dozens (hundreds?)
    who have washed their hands of her -- and are quite vocal about it.

    Quoted message said:

    I guess it's a mea culpa in the shallowest sense. The kind that maybe
    gets you away from prosecution, but doesn't save you from an
    unpleasant
    afterlife (if you believe in such things... I don't).

    Yeah -- you got it straight.

    She's quite a piece of work and her "confession" has a ring of
    professional PR about it. One wonders what would have happened if
    she'd sought that kind of professional assistance earlier. She really
    would make an interesting psychological study.

    But I think the mob at LCF would, too. They are dedicated -- and have
    single vision lenses. Many's the time some have been told, "Boy! I
    sure wouldn't want to have you get made at ME!" But I know one thing
    for sure -- there's not a one of 'em that I'd want as a friend.

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

  12. BlueBrooke said:

    On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:28:56 -0000, Hollywood <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    Three?

    I know of two -- Christin and Deni -- that are very public and
    appeared on the show. Other than that, there are dozens (hundreds?)
    who have washed their hands of her -- and are quite vocal about it.

    Becky was the primary admin moderating the site for a long time and also
    has an anti-Kimkins blog now.

    But yeah, there's a lot of exes besides the three of them - including
    people who were fans over on LCF for a long time before she got her own
    site and were subsequently banned for questioning the photos on the site.

    Quoted message said:

    She's quite a piece of work and her "confession" has a ring of
    professional PR about it. One wonders what would have happened if
    she'd sought that kind of professional assistance earlier. She really
    would make an interesting psychological study.

    Eh... lying sociopaths aren't all that unusual.

    I find this one entertaining mostly cause I *wasn't* involved
    personally; it's never fun when you actually *are* in a relationship
    with someone like that.

    Quoted message said:

    But I think the mob at LCF would, too. They are dedicated -- and have
    single vision lenses. Many's the time some have been told, "Boy! I
    sure wouldn't want to have you get made at ME!" But I know one thing
    for sure -- there's not a one of 'em that I'd want as a friend.

    Oh, I wouldn't say that - some of them are kewl.

    But there's a mob mentality overall on LCF. Some of the objections are
    stuff as ridiculous as said by the doctor and nutritionist on the TV
    show; objections for all the wrong reasons just cause objecting to
    Kimmer is a knee-jerk reaction and the "in" thing to do no matter how
    lame the objection.

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  13. BlueBrooke .@. said:

    On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:28:56 -0000, Hollywood <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    Three?

    I know of two -- Christin and Deni -- that are very public and
    appeared on the show. Other than that, there are dozens (hundreds?)
    who have washed their hands of her -- and are quite vocal about it.

    Becky is three. I understand (from Jimmy Moore) that she was the
    first one to quit Kimmer.
    http://winningweight.blogspot.com/2007/08/my-goodbye.html

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess it's a mea culpa in the shallowest sense. The kind that maybe
    gets you away from prosecution, but doesn't save you from an
    unpleasant
    afterlife (if you believe in such things... I don't).

    Yeah -- you got it straight.

    She's quite a piece of work and her "confession" has a ring of
    professional PR about it. One wonders what would have happened if
    she'd sought that kind of professional assistance earlier. She really
    would make an interesting psychological study.

    Old school psychology. You study the sick to comment on the
    healthy. I'm more from the positivism school. But the sickos make
    better case studies, that's for sure.

    Quoted message said:

    But I think the mob at LCF would, too. They are dedicated -- and have
    single vision lenses. Many's the time some have been told, "Boy! I
    sure wouldn't want to have you get made at ME!" But I know one thing
    for sure -- there's not a one of 'em that I'd want as a friend.

    I like my posting at least as organized as Usenet. Can't read LCF, but
    judging from your (and other) reviews, they're the proverbial club
    that
    would have me as a member (qv Groucho).

  14. Hi, Jackie --

    On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:59:38 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    BlueBrooke said:

    On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:28:56 -0000, Hollywood <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not addressed are the three chicks who dumped her and her diet and
    are saying all kinds of nasty stuff about her.

    Three?

    I know of two -- Christin and Deni -- that are very public and
    appeared on the show. Other than that, there are dozens (hundreds?)
    who have washed their hands of her -- and are quite vocal about it.

    Becky was the primary admin moderating the site for a long time and also
    has an anti-Kimkins blog now.

    I remember her now -- thanks.

    Quoted message said:

    But yeah, there's a lot of exes besides the three of them - including
    people who were fans over on LCF for a long time before she got her own
    site and were subsequently banned for questioning the photos on the site.

    Quoted message said:

    She's quite a piece of work and her "confession" has a ring of
    professional PR about it. One wonders what would have happened if
    she'd sought that kind of professional assistance earlier. She really
    would make an interesting psychological study.

    Eh... lying sociopaths aren't all that unusual.

    True -- but how many of them take it to this extreme? Even now that
    she's thrown herself on her sword, she's faking photographs. It's
    really mind blowing.

    Quoted message said:

    I find this one entertaining mostly cause I *wasn't* involved
    personally; it's never fun when you actually *are* in a relationship
    with someone like that.

    Ain't that the truth.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But I think the mob at LCF would, too. They are dedicated -- and have
    single vision lenses. Many's the time some have been told, "Boy! I
    sure wouldn't want to have you get made at ME!" But I know one thing
    for sure -- there's not a one of 'em that I'd want as a friend.

    Oh, I wouldn't say that - some of them are kewl.

    I wouldn't want to have to sort them out -- so I just wouldn't trust
    any of them. Then you don't have to guess which one will stab you in
    the back at their first opportunity.

    Quoted message said:

    But there's a mob mentality overall on LCF. Some of the objections are
    stuff as ridiculous as said by the doctor and nutritionist on the TV
    show; objections for all the wrong reasons just cause objecting to
    Kimmer is a knee-jerk reaction and the "in" thing to do no matter how
    lame the objection.

    I love the "it's all about the money" argument. The fact that
    "Kimmer" was preaching for years -- for free -- and only started
    making any "real" money on this after the WW article seems to be lost
    on them. That's a long wait for a payoff if it's "all about the
    money."

    I notice "Kimmer" is offering refunds now and her "victims" are
    refusing them. Not sure what they hope to accomplish with that -- I
    guess the LCF Law School didn't go into the duty to mitigate damages.

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

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