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  1. Obviously, any energy you don't use turns into fat. But say if you were
    to eat VitaBrits (Weat buiscuits) that has less than a gram of fat and
    sugar pern 100g, could you still put on fat from the unused energy
    (carbohydrates). In other words, other than too much sugar is bad for
    you, is it that you should be looking at the energy over the fat in the
    nutrition information? Could you put onb more fat, if you ate a
    ice-cream less in kilojules (high in fat and sugar), but the VitaBrits
    was more in energy than the ice cream(but less in fat and sugar), Could
    you put on more fat?

  2. <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    Quoted message said:

    Obviously, any energy you don't use turns into fat. But say if you were
    to eat VitaBrits (Weat buiscuits) that has less than a gram of fat and
    sugar pern 100g, could you still put on fat from the unused energy
    (carbohydrates). In other words, other than too much sugar is bad for
    you, is it that you should be looking at the energy over the fat in the
    nutrition information? Could you put onb more fat, if you ate a
    ice-cream less in kilojules (high in fat and sugar), but the VitaBrits
    was more in energy than the ice cream(but less in fat and sugar), Could
    you put on more fat?

    energy balance is a rule of thumb for full meals over a longer period of
    time, it is not useful for judging single food items or for short-time
    effects since biochemical factors play a much bigger role here (insulin and
    fat storage for instance when eating simple sugars and fat at the same
    time.. or food components that influence satiety etc.).

  3. The body regulates its calorie intake. Something in the modern diet causes
    that regulator to malfunction. The key is not how many calories a single
    portion of a particular food has. The key is whether that food will
    influence the calorie regulator, which some people call an "appestat."

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Obviously, any energy you don't use turns into fat. But say if you were
    to eat VitaBrits (Weat buiscuits) that has less than a gram of fat and
    sugar pern 100g, could you still put on fat from the unused energy
    (carbohydrates). In other words, other than too much sugar is bad for
    you, is it that you should be looking at the energy over the fat in the
    nutrition information? Could you put onb more fat, if you ate a
    ice-cream less in kilojules (high in fat and sugar), but the VitaBrits
    was more in energy than the ice cream(but less in fat and sugar), Could
    you put on more fat?

  4. "Cubit" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    Quoted message said:

    The body regulates its calorie intake.

    Actually _you_ regulate your calorie intake (its called "eating"😉.

    Quoted message said:

    Something in the modern diet causes
    that regulator to malfunction.

    is there a scientific term for your "calorie regulator"? are you talking
    about thermogenesis / thyroids?

    Quoted message said:

    The key is not how many calories a single
    portion of a particular food has.

    agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    The key is whether that food will
    influence the calorie regulator, which some people call an "appestat."

    what calories are you talking about?
    calories in food, calories being utilized, calories being stored, calories
    being "wasted" by thermogenesis?

    ...and fyi:

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    ap·pe·stat
    n.

    The area in the brain that is believed to regulate appetite and food
    intake.

  5. If I understand your question, you would want to consume
    energy-producing foods at a variable rate in response to demand. In
    other words, if you are physically active consume more fats, if not
    physically active, consume less. The problem is rigid eating habits.

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    Obviously, any energy you don't use turns into fat.


    It is really not so "obvious" to one who knows what energy is; try
    highschool physics for a start.
    Energy is, guess what? Energy. It does -not- contain any atoms,
    molecules, nor mass of ANY kind.
    Energy can NOT magically turn into mass: i.e. atoms that conveniently
    arrange themselves into fat molecules.
    Although Einstein discovered that E=mc^2; the only direct evidence we
    have of that equivalence is when very small amounts of mass are converted
    into very large amounts of energy, say in an atomic bomb.
    The conversion of energy into mass; however, has not been observed,
    especially not in the human being.
    Calories are not "burned", either. Energy can not be "burned".
    Let's put to rest some of these outrageous lies being propagated in
    contemporary nutribabble...

    Laurie

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