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KH Pro weight vs. Wilder?

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  1. I am curious. Why does teh KH pro muni weigh the same as the Wilder
    muni? The Kh frame is 1.2lbs heavier, and it has a brake, while the
    wilder doesn't. Is this a typo, or is it really the same? If it is the
    right weight, that's amazing...

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  2. dude, Kris Holm's name subtracts like 3 pounds. I thought everybody knew
    that.

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  3. The weights in the unicycle.com catalog are not accurate. Don't base
    anything off those weights.

    It is difficult to compare weights because few people have taken
    accurate measurements. And even when accurate measurements are made,
    there is problems with having custom equipment so you're never comparing
    apples to apples. For example, someone might have a CF seat on a
    tricked out KH. Is it fair to compare that to a stock Wilder? That's
    not really fair. To be fair, both unicycles should be decked out
    similarly. Otherwise you end up comparing the difference in weight of a
    KH saddle with a CF air saddle by Scot Wallis , the weight of a
    heavyweight DH tube with a lightweight standard tube, etc. Weights by
    themselves are not very descriptive unless you also know the components
    that were on the uni at the time it was weighed.

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  4. Rowan said:

    *I posted the exact same question a while back in 'this thread'
    (http://tinyurl.com/6cngy) and came up with no real answer apart from
    it being impossible for them to weigh the same. *


    way to be on the ball Rowan, i was just thinking of your thread when i
    read the title to this one. i cant belive they still havent changed
    that. there are lots of other things that still go unchanged aswell.
    unexceptable!
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    i have a theory about why things dont get updated in that respect or in
    unicycle sites or circles, including this one. its that 96% percent of
    unicyclists are a bunch of ninnys who are afraid to raise issues, make
    suggestions or offer healthy criticism because the fear of being b-rated
    by the legions of butt kissing gas bag unicycle riding chauvinists who
    cant listen to anything suggesting change is just to much pressure. So
    without the squeaky wheels there just isnt much oil.

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  5. I just wanted to throw in that I called unicycle.com a couple days ago
    to add an item to an order I had made the previous day. The item was
    the GB4 Miyata Handle reinforcement plate. While I was looking at the
    unicycle.com site, I noticed that the description for the plate said it
    is for the Miyata and Torker DX saddle. I realized that the description
    should have said Miyata and Torker LX saddle. So while I was talking to
    Amy, I informed her of the mistake on the site. She confirmed that it
    was in fact wrong, and threw in the plate for free. Not 10 minutes
    later, I checked the site and it had been corrected.

    This post has no real point other then to show that unicyle.com was
    willing to change information on their site once and I'm sure they would
    change it again if asked. I know others have asked, but it's possible
    that they forgot. The most helpful thing to do would be for someone who
    has these unicycles bone stock to weigh them and inform unicycle.com
    what the correct weight should be.

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  6. daino149 said:

    * I realized that the description should have said Miyata and Torker
    LX saddle. So while I was talking to Amy, I informed her of the
    mistake on the site. She confirmed that it was in fact wrong, and
    threw in the plate for free. Not 10 minutes later, I checked the site
    and it had been corrected. *


    thats cool but im not sure they will work with the newer LX handles
    since they have the reinforcment gusset things now right where the plate
    would go, unlike the miyatas. better call'em again 🙄

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  7. Rowan said:

    * no one will notice cos the price keeps going up anyway.*

    an unrivaled vendor, can charge whatever they want, without the fear of
    losing customers.

    are there any KH owners out there who can justify paying 600$ for a
    unicycle frame? Does it make you a better rider? can you jump higher?
    bigger drops? That is insane. How many people need a foot rest for
    trials, or a hydraulic brake? here's a secret(looking both ways to make
    sure that no one else is listening), when you stop pedaling, the wheel
    will also stop.

    My 4130 bike trials frame was 475$. Tolerances on a bike frame are much
    higher and more numerous on a bike (8tubes, 5gussets, machined dropouts,
    machined chainstay yoke, brake mounts, brake line guides, bottom
    bracket, bashplate mount) than a uni (3tubes, machined crown, machined
    bearing housings, brake mounts). No, the bike frame is not mass
    produced, like some big name bike companies. I understand that there is
    much less demand for unicycles, but 600$?

    How expensive do frames have to get before people realize that the frame
    is one of the least important components of a good unicycle.

    mike

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  8. For what it's worth, I had a Wilder in my hands at one point last year
    (I do not own one) and I had it weighed on a digital scale at the local
    UPS store. It weighed 1.46lbs. I have a KH taiwan frame and that weighed
    2.2 lbs. Probably very close to the KH Pro. I weighed it just for the
    hell of it, all the talk had me curious. Both included the lower bearing
    clamps and screws.
    If it meant much to me I guess I'd own a Wilder, since it doesn't... I
    don't.

    - Frank

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  9. Rowan said:

    *Maybe the new KH freeride will have the option of getting Profiles
    for those people who care more about warranties than weight.*

    I am in that category. Being on a limited income, I need to stretch my
    dollar as far as it will go. Granted, the $150 or so for the KH hub is
    half the cost of the Profile, but one only needs to break one KH hub and
    they'll have to fork out the same money.

    The words "lifetime warranty" have such a nice ring to them. It's a
    security blanket for the hardcore rider 🙂 I realize the unicycling
    industry is still in its infancy, but I'm disappointed that there aren't
    many manufacturers who are willing to put a warranty on their product.

    Rowan said:

    *I think now is the perfect time to put this claim to the test.*

    I agree about testing the claim but I don't think it's a good idea to
    encourage _any_ more explosions in Iraq. There are thousands upon
    thousands of people left homeless as a result of the US military.

    There is definitely too much use of this word, "bombproof," and I'm sure
    the enterprising explosives artist could make the unicycling community
    some money in false advertising litigation. Let's donate a few hubs to
    our local backwoods militia. They've got plenty of explosives and I'm
    sure they're dying to blow something up!

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  10. jagur said:

    *i cant belive they still havent changed that. there are lots of other
    things that still go unchanged aswell. unexceptable!
    *

    Lol.

    i fnd teh abov snetance unexceptabl allso!

    😄

    -mg

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