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  1. So during a muni ride on the Brad Freeman trail complex at Lake
    Oroville, CA, my smart-ass son makes some comment about how he knows
    I'm old, but didn't realize I was so creaky already. Well, of course it
    was my 06 KH24 doing the creaking. I know these are rather famous for
    their noise, and so I removed the cranks and cleaned/greased them
    before reinstalling. But when I hopped on, hoping for some silence, the
    same creaking remains. It sounded a little like it might've been coming
    from my seat, so I tightened everything up there, too. That reduced
    some of the creaking, but there's still some going on.

    If it matters, here's the details on my setup:

    KH06/07 frame
    Stock wheel/cranks
    Shimano DX pedals
    Thompson seatpost
    Stock seat w/Deathgrip handle

    Where should I look next for the source of the creaking?

    Thanks!

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  2. Hi Peter.

    If it is a creaking coming from your spokes it helps to turn your
    cranks a bit. I normally move my cranks eight notches forward on a
    thirtysix spline axle after every couple of big rides, and that is to
    even the load on the spokes and rim.
    If you are the one creaking then try codliver oil....:eek:

    Cheers Tue

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  3. Maybe it is your bones. I know mine creak like crazy! 😉

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  4. trials_uni said:

    Is your seat plastic?...Cuz it could still be the seat...You may have
    broken you stiffener plate and now its the plastic creaking.

    Plastic doesn't creak... the creaking that comes from a broken
    stiffener plate comes from the two metal pieces (on either side of the
    break) rubbing together.

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  5. Hi, Jim from Socal. My '06 KH creaked a lot. I lubed where the spokes
    cross each other with bicycle chain lube and that cured it for a while.
    Grease the seat rails also.
    I'm planning to get up to Chico this summer so be ready!!
    Jim

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  6. I've found creaks in the pedal / crank interface. Remove, re-grease,
    re-install has worked for me.

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  7. Holy [censored]! I've got a lot of work to do now!

    I'm suspicious that my problem might be in the seat. I'll lube up the
    rails (which I didn't think to do before--great tip!), and check to see
    that I haven't broken anything on the inside of it, either. I probably
    ought to go CF.

    I had the wheel tensioned/trued not too long ago, and the spokes all
    still "sing" at about the same pitch, so I don't think it needs
    tensioning, but some of the creaking may be coming from the spoke
    interfaces. I'll put a little Phil's waterproof grease in where the
    spokes cross and see if that makes a difference.

    Jim--has the creaking ceased with the Moment wheel?

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  8. tujotomi said:

    If it is a creaking coming from your spokes it helps to turn your cranks
    a bit. I normally move my cranks eight notches forward on a thirtysix
    spline axle after every couple of big rides, and that is to even the
    load on the spokes and rim.

    Well, I didn't count the splines, but I did reinstall the cranks about
    a quarter-turn off from where they'd been. I was thinking of tire wear,
    not wheel stress, but it makes sense. Thanks!

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  9. So far no moment creaks!

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  10. pkittle said:


    I had the wheel tensioned/trued not too long ago, and the spokes all
    still "sing" at about the same pitch, so I don't think it needs
    tensioning, but some of the creaking may be coming from the spoke
    interfaces.

    just because they sing at the same pitch doesn't mean they are tight
    enough

    tujotomi said:

    Hi Peter.

    If it is a creaking coming from your spokes it helps to turn your
    cranks a bit. I normally move my cranks eight notches forward on a
    thirtysix spline axle after every couple of big rides, and that is to
    even the load on the spokes and rim.
    If you are the one creaking then try codliver oil....:eek:

    Cheers Tue

    I wouldn't remove the cranks repeatedly bucause eventually it won't go
    back on as well. if your spokes are creaking it means you need to
    tighten them not rotate the cranks.

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    GILD said:

    If it was a naked young lady, would we be shouting about sexual
    objectification?

    gordito8me said:

    it's like running across the highway at rush hour. Dangerous, stupid,
    but not really that fun.

    skrobo said:

    i would rather ride a brick than have a folding tire

    Unicaw89 said:

    Koxx rapes Torker hard!


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  11. I seem to get a creaking sound coming from my wheel bearings. Perhaps
    they're too tight. When I pick the uni up and spin the wheel it
    creaks.

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  12. maestro8 said:

    Plastic doesn't creak... the creaking that comes from a broken stiffener
    plate comes from the two metal pieces (on either side of the break)
    rubbing together.

    My bad...but that could still be the problem.

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  13. The creaking is a common problem with the KH uni's, according to
    unicycl.com its the crank set up, the shims that the bearing fit over
    aren't the best of fits so they tend to slip and shake a bit causing
    the creaking, its not a big thing I was told but if you take em apart
    give them a good clean every now and again it stops the worst of it. If
    you watch quite a few videos many folk have creaky cranks, its more
    annoying than owt else.

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  14. So I found the big problem: my seatpost and collar (Salsa flip-lock).
    The seatpost was covered with dried mud, and the collar was completely
    bereft of grease. Lubed up both seatpost and collar, and the squeaks
    are gone. Should've checked that before. D'oh!

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  15. yay

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