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  1. Hello everyone, I am doing a 62km bicycle tour, and I'm on the market
    for an air saddle.

    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=937

    That caught my eye, but it is really worth the 79$ or should I just
    make my own with my spare miyata?

    Chase

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  2. I say just make your own...Itll be cheaper and its not very hard to do.

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  3. trials_uni said:

    I say just make your own...Itll be cheaper and its not very hard to do.

    Agreed. I bought one and now I don't even use it (replaced it with a
    regular KH seat).

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  4. I would recommend getting a gel seat instead, I found Air seats to
    actualy put too much pressure in unwanted areas.

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  5. If you want an air saddle make your own. You can do a better job.
    Follow the instructions in my 'airseat gallery'
    (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat).

    But airseats really aren't the best option for long distance Coker
    riding. It's like sitting on a water bed. It puts pressure equally
    everywhere. When you move to a different part of the seat it puts
    pressure in the same places in the same way. You can't reposition
    yourself on the seat to change the pressure points. Air seats are very
    comfortable for 10 miles. The get less comfortable and slightly
    numbing for 20 miles. For longer rides they get progressively worse.

    A good foam seat can be better. The new KH Fusion Freeride saddle
    looks like it will be a great Coker saddle. Otherwise just carve away
    at the standard foam to flatten out the seat profile and tweak it the
    way you like it.

    I still use an air seat on my muni because the air seat adds a bit of
    extra suspension. But on my Coker I'm now all foam.

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  6. i like my airseat and i do distance on it. it might just me, but i like
    doing distance with it.

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  7. vuniw said:

    i like my airseat and i do distance on it. it might just me, but i like
    doing distance with it.

    My comments about air seats and comfort are just rules of thumb.
    They're not hard and fast rules. Seat comfort is going to be different
    for different people. Some people love their air seat for distance
    riding and Coker tours. Others wonder how they can stand using and air
    seat for long rides and tours. It's something that you have to find
    out for yourself which camp you fit in.

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  8. Hmm how about a KH with a nice handle?

    if so where can i get a nice one?

    thanks

    Chase

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  9. Unitik908 said:

    Hmm how about a KH with a nice handle?

    if so where can i get a nice one?

    What do you mean by "nice handle"?
    Are you thinking of something like a Reeder handle or maybe a Scott
    Wallis DeathGrip?

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  10. Unitik908 said:

    Hello everyone, I am doing a 62km bicycle tour, and I'm on the market
    for an air saddle.

    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=937

    That caught my eye, but it is really worth the 79$ or should I just
    make my own with my spare miyata?

    Chase

    I bought a KH air seat. I have always felt it is poorly designed - my
    opinion. Regardless of the design, I find it to be extremely
    uncomfortable. I used it 3 or 4 times and now it just sits on the
    shelf. The folded 20-inch tube makes me sit off center which does not
    help with riding.

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  11. Wheel Rider said:

    I bought a KH air seat. I have always felt it is poorly designed - my
    opinion. Regardless of the design, I find it to be extremely
    uncomfortable.

    I don't know about your saddle, but I found adding a couple of layers
    of foam on top of the air pillow made a huge difference. My muni
    saddle uses an old sock to contain the folded inner tube, a piece of
    SoleFlex 24 foam (stiff foam from a boot fitter) in the middle, and
    then some foam from an old RidgeRest camping pad.

    It was a fair amount of work to find a solution that works pretty
    well, but even so the saddle is lopsided (warped CF base and
    difficulty containing the inner tube) and not everyone likes it.
    Also, my airseat is *very* bouncy. Spinning on a flat trail with the
    175mm cranks of my old KH24 requires a lot of effort to combat the
    tendency to bounce.

    Still, I find it more comfortable for long term sitting than my other
    saddles (KH, Miyata, Bedford Air).

    Ken

  12. john_childs said:

    What do you mean by "nice handle"?
    Are you thinking of something like a Reeder handle or maybe a Scott
    Wallis DeathGrip?

    umm, like the one on camerons coker

    http://tinyurl.com/e6rtb

    just like that.

    Chase

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  13. Unitik908 said:

    umm, like the one on camerons coker

    http://tinyurl.com/e6rtb

    just like that.

    Chase

    That's the GB4 Coker handle. I don't think it's still available. It
    is something you'd have to make custom now.

    To use a handle like that you need a reinforced seat base. A plastic
    seat base will flex and fail due to the pushing down and pulling up
    with that sort of handle. With that sort of handle you push down to
    take the weight off the seat and that will kill a plastic seat base in
    short order. You can go with a reinforced Miyata seat base using the
    'GB4 stiffener plate'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=607). Or go for a
    carbon fiber seat base.

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