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  1. Two-Wheeled Hoons Terrorise Neighbourhood
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    RESIDENTS OF A QUIET KEW RESIDENTIAL STREET this week spoke out about
    their daily lives being made a misery by the unpredictable and
    thoughtless behaviour of increasing numbers of lycra-clad cycling
    louts. In a letter to The Chronicle, a spokeswoman for the recently
    formed group Concerned Residents of Hodgson Street, Ms Contumelia
    Endive, told of uncouth and antisocial behaviour, dangerous near
    misses, and fears for the wellbeing of elderly residents and children.
    "For reasons best known to themselves, more and more of these pests
    are descending on our quiet enclave at all hours of the day and
    disrupting our peace by charging up our once beautiful street at
    dangerous speeds. They puff, pant, grimace, spit, and swear, shout or
    whoop loudly at one another, and generally behave in a quite
    antisocial fashion. Aside from the obvious danger of collisions, we
    are very concerned by the well known proclivity of cyclists towards
    drug use. We also worry about the safety of young children in the
    presence of these bizarrely dressed men who appear to shave their legs
    and no doubt partake in other even more unsavoury activities", wrote
    Ms Endive.

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    Approached for comment by The Chronicle, the Assistant Manager of
    Local Media Liaison Services at Bicycle Victoria, Ms Eumerella Sprodd
    sought to dissociate the reported behaviour from that of responsible
    cyclists: "Thanks to the tireless efforts of Bicycle Victoria,
    Melbourne has over 752,000 kilometres of bike trails, shared pathways,
    and dedicated on-road bike lanes for cyclists to enjoy", said Ms
    Sprodd. "There is certainly no reason for even a small group of
    riders to antagonise local residents in this way, if the reports are
    correct." A spokeswoman for the Hawthorn Cycling Club also claimed no
    knowledge of the illegal two-wheeled drag races "We run regular
    criterion racing around a closed, non-residential circuit on the
    nearby Kew Boulevard Loop," said Ms Rae Butcher, "these races give
    cyclists of all abilities the opportunity to compete and work off
    their excess testosterone, so I'm very surprised at what you're
    telling me".

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    When correspondents from The Chronicle visited leafy, tree-lined
    Hodgson Street yesterday, peace reigned, with no rogue riders to be
    seen. But Ms Endive's claims were backed up by a long term resident
    of the street, 78 year old widow Mrs Beryl Plunkett: "It's just
    dreadful" said Ms Plunkett, "I regularly have to cross the street on
    my walking frame, and several times I have nearly been bowled over by
    horrible sweaty men charging up the road at me, coming from nowhere,
    without so much as an apology. It's got to where I'm scared to leave
    my front door", a tearful Mrs Plunkett told The Chronicle.

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    The Chronicle took the residents' concerns to the local Police, where
    station chief Otto Grug admitted that Police were aware of the
    activities, but hindered by a temporary lack of resources to confront
    the offenders: "With all our cars and most of our officers currently
    on security patrol up at the Commonwealth Games Lawn Bowls in Darebin,
    we have been unable to mount an effective surveillance in Hodgson
    Street.", stated Senior Sergeant Grug. "I did send one of our junior
    officers over there on a Police-issue mountain bike two weeks ago to
    investigate, but in giving chase to an offender on a higher powered
    machine, he suffered severe atrial fibrillation and is still off on
    Workcover."

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    For the present then, it appears that the long-suffering residents of
    Hodgson Street are on their own.

    This entirely serious article brought to you via Allan ONeil on
    bicigaga.

    --
    TimC
    I am very new to programming drivers so if I sound un-knowledgeable then it's
    because I am. -- first4internet's Ceri Coburn on writing Sony's DRM rootkit

  2. I loved every word of it!! Sad to say i may be one of these two wheeled hoons..

  3. Jono L said:

    I loved every word of it!! Sad to say i may be one of these two wheeled hoons..

    whereTF is this reputed 'Hodgson Street' ?

  4. TimC said:

    Two-Wheeled Hoons Terrorise Neighbourhood

    [chomp]

    It's not April 1st yet, Tim 🙂

  5. flyingdutch said:

    whereTF is this reputed 'Hodgson Street' ?

    Kew back streets.. north of Ikea over the river.. you'll spot it on a map... the race is on to crack the 1min mark on cycle2max...

    cheers,
    GPL

  6. flyingdutch said:

    whereTF is this reputed 'Hodgson Street' ?

    near the kew end of the boulie - parallel to walmer st.

    although I didn't realise it had any notoriety as a cyclist's street... i use it on my daily commute and don't see many others!

  7. On 2006-03-09, Bleve (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:


    TimC said:

    Two-Wheeled Hoons Terrorise Neighbourhood

    [chomp]

    It's not April 1st yet, Tim 🙂

    I swear, the amount of stuff posted on bicigaga that has me going for
    entirely too long makes me look very forward to what we will have in
    store for the April 1st.

    But I think it might have bit a couple of people who shall remain
    nameless 🙂

    --
    TimC
    "COGITO, EGGO SUM." I think, therefore I am a waffle.
    .sig of Mr. Ska on Slashdot.org

  8. "TimC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Aside from the obvious danger of collisions, we
    are very concerned by the well known proclivity of cyclists towards
    drug use. We also worry about the safety of young children in the
    presence of these bizarrely dressed men who appear to shave their legs
    and no doubt partake in other even more unsavoury activities", wrote
    Ms Endive.

    Bwahahaha! Priceless.

  9. I couldn't get over this bit

    SNIP
    "I did send one of our junior officers over there on a Police-issue mountain
    bike two weeks ago to investigate, but in giving chase to an offender on a
    higher powered machine, he suffered severe atrial fibrillation and is still
    off on Workcover."
    SNIP

    What the heck is a higher powered machine? Are we still talking about
    pushies?

    marin

  10. On 2006-03-09, marin (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't get over this bit

    SNIP
    "I did send one of our junior officers over there on a Police-issue mountain
    bike two weeks ago to investigate, but in giving chase to an offender on a
    higher powered machine, he suffered severe atrial fibrillation and is still
    off on Workcover."
    SNIP

    What the heck is a higher powered machine? Are we still talking about
    pushies?

    Yep. Clearly Melb Police Bicycle Patrol need to get themselves some
    Italian carbon jobbies.

    --
    TimC
    Chairman: We continue with an afternoon of numerical stimulations.
    -- An astronomy talk

  11. "TimC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 2006-03-09, marin (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't get over this bit

    SNIP
    "I did send one of our junior officers over there on a Police-issue
    mountain
    bike two weeks ago to investigate, but in giving chase to an offender on
    a
    higher powered machine, he suffered severe atrial fibrillation and is
    still
    off on Workcover."
    SNIP

    What the heck is a higher powered machine? Are we still talking about
    pushies?

    Yep. Clearly Melb Police Bicycle Patrol need to get themselves some
    Italian carbon jobbies.


    And more highly powered constables who are less prone to atrial
    fibrillation.

  12. It's the 'whoop'ing that is the real problem.....

  13. --
    Frank
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    It's the 'whoop'ing that is the real problem.....

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    Marx SS

    Bit of a giggle at first, but then I thought about it. It's how many people
    see cyclists, especially bunch cyclists. Because those of us who don't act
    in the way described tend to be invisible the obnoxious mob sets the
    impression for the rest of us. Unfortunately, we all assign guilt by
    association. Look at comments through this group about 'peds', 'drivers',
    etc. Any wonder cyclists are considered by some as lycra-clad hoons?

    A few days ago I was riding to work along the path next to the Freeway
    between Armadale Road and Rowley Road, heading south. A small bunch, about
    8-10 lycra boyz (all the gear but, like me, sad fat buggers!), heading north
    approaching. I was forced off the path, taking a digger in the sand, hearing
    calls of 'get out of the fsking way'. Nobody stopped to check that I wasn't
    hurt. I've seen this mob a few times (around 6-6.30am) on the road too.
    Once, driving at about 80 in a row of cars along Rowley Rd, the same mob (I
    assume) turned left on to Rowley Road from a side street straight in front
    of the line of traffic. Much slamming on of brakes and curses. Very near
    another report about cyclists killed by driver(s).

    Put yourselves in the shoes of a non-cyclist watching or experiencing this
    lot. What would you think? Hardly the way to win people over to cycling as a
    transport option, is it? I'm tending to think there should be far more
    restrictions and enforcement placed on bunch training and sport oriented
    cycling and far more emphasis placed on vehicular cycling. I'm getting to
    the point where I'm thinking bunch rides should need a permit and bikes
    confiscated if one is not produced when the cops ask for it.

    As petrol goes up, parking goes up, and the weather is good I see more
    people riding as transport and more people being yelled at by speed
    merchants. I wonder how many bikes end up in sheds because of this? I'm
    wildly guessing that many new cyclists don't bother reporting incidents
    because they are still in the newbie category and simply feel intimidated
    and that they may be at fault for being too slow. I've seen many instances
    of stereotypical roadies yelling at peds and recreational/commuting cyclists
    on shared paths as though their speed and HR monitor gives them some
    priority. I've seen many, many more who don't act so aggressively, but guess
    who is noticed and shapes opinions?

    Personally, when I'm next riding that route I'll have my pump ready to jam
    in someone's spokes if they don't give me my space...

    Frank - just plodding along...

  14. A jihad on all obnox roadies!

  15. Plodder said:

    Put yourselves in the shoes of a non-cyclist watching or experiencing this
    lot. What would you think? Hardly the way to win people over to cycling as a
    transport option, is it? I'm tending to think there should be far more
    restrictions and enforcement placed on bunch training and sport oriented
    cycling and far more emphasis placed on vehicular cycling. I'm getting to
    the point where I'm thinking bunch rides should need a permit and bikes
    confiscated if one is not produced when the cops ask for it.

    Seeing as 90% of my millage is solo commuting I share your frustrations
    however what you're suggesting just isn't fair. Cars drive around in
    bunches all the time and have de-facto races to the next red lights.
    The level of aggression displayed by some drivers puts lives at risk, a
    fact borne out by the road toll. I'd be happy for restrictions such as
    you suggest to be put in place if the same was to happen for cars.

    Think I'm being silly? Well I don't think so. I regularly end up in a
    bunch of 10 plus cyclists on my commute to and from the city along St
    Kilda Road. Why the hell should I need a permit to be part of traffic?
    --
    Cheers | ~~ __@
    Euan | ~~ _-\<,
    Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

  16. Euan said:
    Plodder said:

    Put yourselves in the shoes of a non-cyclist watching or experiencing
    this
    lot. What would you think? Hardly the way to win people over to
    cycling as a
    transport option, is it? I'm tending to think there should be far more
    restrictions and enforcement placed on bunch training and sport oriented
    cycling and far more emphasis placed on vehicular cycling. I'm getting to
    the point where I'm thinking bunch rides should need a permit and bikes
    confiscated if one is not produced when the cops ask for it.

    Seeing as 90% of my millage is solo commuting I share your frustrations
    however what you're suggesting just isn't fair. Cars drive around in
    bunches all the time and have de-facto races to the next red lights. The
    level of aggression displayed by some drivers puts lives at risk, a fact
    borne out by the road toll. I'd be happy for restrictions such as you
    suggest to be put in place if the same was to happen for cars.

    Think I'm being silly? Well I don't think so. I regularly end up in a
    bunch of 10 plus cyclists on my commute to and from the city along St
    Kilda Road. Why the hell should I need a permit to be part of traffic?

    Yeah a genuinely nuts idea. What about the 200 motorcyclists that
    protested the proposed lane splitting legislation by riding more or less
    as a bunch down the eastern freeway. Nearly all of them do that commute
    every day. Since they all left at the same time from the same place for
    once (and didnt lanesplit and vanish into invisibility) should they be
    illegal? And if they were why not every bunch of cars entering from
    springvale road

    How many people have bunches of cyclists killed in the last year? Hang
    on if we make it illegal for bunches of people to congregate maybe we
    can get rid of cities.. Nuts.

    Dave

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    Quoted message said:
    Plodder said:

    Put yourselves in the shoes of a non-cyclist watching or experiencing


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lot. What would you think? Hardly the way to win people over to cycling


    as a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    transport option, is it? I'm tending to think there should be far more
    restrictions and enforcement placed on bunch training and sport oriented
    cycling and far more emphasis placed on vehicular cycling. I'm getting


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the point where I'm thinking bunch rides should need a permit and bikes
    confiscated if one is not produced when the cops ask for it.

    Seeing as 90% of my millage is solo commuting I share your frustrations
    however what you're suggesting just isn't fair. Cars drive around in
    bunches all the time and have de-facto races to the next red lights.
    The level of aggression displayed by some drivers puts lives at risk, a
    fact borne out by the road toll. I'd be happy for restrictions such as
    you suggest to be put in place if the same was to happen for cars.

    Think I'm being silly? Well I don't think so. I regularly end up in a
    bunch of 10 plus cyclists on my commute to and from the city along St
    Kilda Road. Why the hell should I need a permit to be part of traffic?
    --
    Cheers | ~~ __@
    Euan | ~~ _-\<,
    Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

    Yeah, I know. I was ranting...

    The bunch I was referring to displays similar aggression to some car
    drivers. Not a happy thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they drive to the
    ride in Prados.

    I just goes to show that there are [censored] in every group - cyclists, car
    drivers, whatever - and that they are the ones who are visible and tend to
    be the basis of the opinions of others. There's another bunch I see
    regularly along the same route and they are coureous and well behaved. The
    only thing I've seen them do is bunch up together and ride three or four
    abreast in the lane they are using. Doesn't bother me in the slightest; if
    the lane is occupied it really makes no difference to me if it's one cyclist
    or a dozen. I'll still wait until I can move to the other lane and overtake
    safely. The two abreast thing seems to be designed to enable motorised
    traffic to overtake without having to move to the other lane.

    I guess I'm feeling that commuting cyclists who just go along at their own
    pace and do their thing are becoming overshadowed by the training
    'athletes' - the ones who take performance too seriously and appear to
    expect others to make way for them just so they can keep their HR in the
    zone. Even serious professional athletes should bear in mind that they are
    no more than entertainers. Get some perspective.

    I'm in WA so cycling infrastructure is coming along well. I feel quite lucky
    in that regard, but will continue to agitate for better acceptance of
    cyclists on the road and better integration of bike routes with roads.

    I'll be more careful with my grizzles from now on ;-P

    Cheers,

    Frank

  18. Plodder:

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I'm feeling that commuting cyclists who just go along at their own pace and do their thing are >becoming overshadowed by the training 'athletes' - the ones who take performance too seriously and >appear to expect others to make way for them just so they can keep their HR in the zone. Even serious >professional athletes should bear in mind that they are no more than entertainers. Get some perspective.

    Frank

    Why do you feel overshadowed? Should all drivers take on the sins of
    rice-powered drag-racers? I ride bikes in different formats (commuting,
    sports/racing, MTB). I do it for myself. If you feel overshadowed, it
    sounds to me like you've got your own issues to deal with (religious
    guilt?), and it ain't my problem. Unless these 'athletes' are running
    you down, let them express themselves as they please - laugh at them
    kindly and they'll probably laugh with you.

    Donga

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    Quoted message said:

    Plodder:

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I'm feeling that commuting cyclists who just go along at their


    own pace and do their thing are >becoming overshadowed by the training
    'athletes' - the ones who take performance too seriously and >appear to
    expect others to make way for them just so they can keep their HR in the
    zone. Even serious >professional athletes should bear in mind that they are
    no more than entertainers. Get some perspective.

    Quoted message said:


    Frank

    Why do you feel overshadowed? Should all drivers take on the sins of
    rice-powered drag-racers? I ride bikes in different formats (commuting,
    sports/racing, MTB). I do it for myself. If you feel overshadowed, it
    sounds to me like you've got your own issues to deal with (religious
    guilt?), and it ain't my problem. Unless these 'athletes' are running
    you down, let them express themselves as they please - laugh at them
    kindly and they'll probably laugh with you.

    Donga

    More in terms of vocal activity. There's a big push (good thing) to get more
    bikes out and about. A great deal of that push comes from the athletic set
    who want facilities to suit their interests - understandable, everyone wants
    that. I'm concerned that facilities and infrastructure will be built to suit
    athletes at the expense of the everyday ordinary rider. For example, I'd
    rather see money go toward a few more kilometers of bike path and some
    culture change work than to a velodrome.

    I don't personally feel overshadowed. I just do my own things - MTB,
    commuting and leisure. My partner has two teenage boys. I'd like to see them
    have safe routes on which to ride and a safe culture to support that riding.
    Let's face it, there's a good chance they won't be able to afford to drive
    when they grow up.

    This is all impression stuff that's almost thinking out loud. I reserve the
    right to change my opinions at any time without notice ;-P

    me (relaxed after a pleasant ride to Freo and back today...)

  20. Frank:

    Quoted message said:

    A great deal of that push comes from the athletic set who want facilities to suit their interests

    Errrm, what facilities are those? Roads? It doesn't cost much extra, if
    anything, to design those for cyclists - far less than miles of
    concrete through parks. In fact I'm happy enough on the roads as they
    are, given a little respect. Cycling will be safest for your kids and
    mine when the roads are designed for cyclists and the motorists respect
    them. Grovel around on paths and that's where we'll all be soon. I've
    taught my kids to ride in the parks, but hope they'll graduate to roads
    in their own time.

    Let's not compete against each other. The point is the total cycling
    budget is woeful. We have much better enemies to fight than each other.

    Donga

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