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  1. Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I came
    upon an accident on a local bike trail. The rider had struck
    a post and was paralyzed from the neck down. During the
    impact, his forks had snapped just below the brakes. The
    wheel was still attached. I examined the severed part of the
    forks and noted that they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-metal
    materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was a two-
    year old Trek with Kevlar forks.

  2. Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I came
    upon an accident on a local bike trail. The rider had
    struck a post and was paralyzed from the neck down. During
    the impact, his forks had snapped just below the brakes.
    The wheel was still attached. I examined the severed part
    of the forks and noted that they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was
    a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.


    I've never heard of kevlar forks. Were they carbon?

  3. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an accident on a local bike trail. The rider
    had struck a post and was paralyzed from the neck down.
    During the impact, his forks had snapped just below the
    brakes. The wheel was still attached. I examined the
    severed part of the forks and noted that they were
    cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was
    a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.


    I've never heard of kevlar forks. Were they carbon?

    Dear Zog,

    The fork in question may not have been Kevlar, but Kevlar
    forks undeniably exist:

    hillbrick.com.auproducts columbus supe
    rmuscle_fork.html

    Carl Fogel

  4. primarily carbon, but with some kevlar fiber to augment the
    vibration characteristics. kevlar is not as strong as
    carbon, but from what i understand, individual fibers can be
    less brittle, so you sometimes see kevlar as "fail safe"
    where the component can break but not separate.

    Quoted message said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:
    Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an accident on a local bike trail. The rider
    had struck a post and was paralyzed from the neck down.
    During the impact, his forks had snapped just below the
    brakes. The wheel was still attached. I examined the
    severed part of the forks and noted that they were
    cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was
    a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.

    I've never heard of kevlar forks. Were they carbon?

    Dear Zog,

    The fork in question may not have been Kevlar, but Kevlar
    forks undeniably exist:

    hillbrick.com.auproducts columbus su
    permuscle_fork.html

    Carl Fogel

  5. "jim beam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    primarily carbon, but with some kevlar fiber to augment
    the vibration characteristics. kevlar is not as strong as
    carbon, but from what i understand, individual fibers can
    be less brittle, so you sometimes see kevlar as "fail
    safe" where the component can break but not separate.

    It's actually a bit more complicated. Kevlar is actually
    about as strong in tension as a high strength carbon fiber
    and quite a bit stronger than a high modulus (stiffness)
    carbon/graphite fiber. Kevlar is however considerably less
    stiff which is important in bicycle technology since you
    will always be aware of stiffness differenses even if you
    never come close to the stress necessary for failure. Kevlar
    is also poorer in compression which makes design a bit
    trickier. It is tougher though which explains why I'd rather
    have a Kevlar vest than a carbon fiber one.

  6. The rider said they were Kevlar. The bike looked like a high
    end model. The rider said he had ridden 3,500 miles in two
    years. When I looked at the break, it appeared to be a
    fibrous material surrounding an inner metal tube. I may be
    wrong about the metal tube. Both forks were sheared almost
    as cleanly as if they had been cut with a circular saw.

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:40d5d1b5.0@entanet...

    Quoted message said:
    Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and
    was paralyzed


    from

    Quoted message said:
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    the neck down. During the impact, his forks had snapped
    just below the brakes. The wheel was still attached. I
    examined the severed part of the forks and noted that
    they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike
    was a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.


    I've never heard of kevlar forks. Were they carbon?

  7. Dorian Smith said:

    The rider said they were Kevlar. The bike looked like a
    high end model. The rider said he had ridden 3,500 miles
    in two years. When I looked at the break, it appeared to
    be a fibrous material surrounding an inner metal tube. I
    may be wrong about the metal tube. Both forks were
    sheared almost as cleanly as if they had been cut with a
    circular saw.

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:40d5d1b5.0@entanet...

    Quoted message said:
    Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and
    was paralyzed


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the neck down. During the impact, his forks had snapped
    just below the brakes. The wheel was still attached. I
    examined the severed part of the forks and noted that
    they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike
    was a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.


    I've never heard of kevlar forks. Were they carbon?

    Please correct me if I'm wrong here. Am I to understand
    that you were questioning somebody who was just in an
    accident and paralyzed from the neck down?? Aren't your
    priorities a bit screwed up?? And, the guy was willing to
    talk to you about his fork?? I would have been freakin' out
    if I were unable to move. I wouldn't give a [censored] about my
    fork at that moment.

    Did the fork break and cause the crash? Or did hitting the
    post cause the fork to break? Just confirming here because
    you said "during the impact." If it is the second, then that
    should not alter your decision to ride with non-metal
    materials. Hit something hard enough and it would matter
    what material the fork was made from.
    --
    Skuke Reverse the domain name to send email

  8. "Dorian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and was
    paralyzed from the neck down.

    Got a local news link?

    winnard

  9. "Dorian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and was
    paralyzed from the neck down. During the impact, his forks
    had snapped just below the brakes. The wheel was still
    attached. I examined the severed part of the forks and
    noted that they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was
    a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.

    That's horrible. Do you know it he'll be paralyzed for the
    rest of his life?

    Dave

  10. "Dorian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The rider said they were Kevlar. The bike looked like a
    high end model.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    rider said he had ridden 3,500 miles in two years. When I
    looked at the break, it appeared to be a fibrous material
    surrounding an inner metal


    tube.

    Did the fibers have color to them? I believe Kevlar's
    natural color is yellow.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and
    was paralyzed


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the neck down. During the impact, his forks had
    snapped just below the brakes. The wheel was still
    attached. I examined the severed part of the forks and
    noted that they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear
    a helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of
    non-metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the
    bike was a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.


    Where did this occur? I could not find this with a google
    news search.

  12. Dorian Smith said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I came
    upon an accident on a local bike trail. The rider had
    struck a post and was paralyzed from the neck down. During
    the impact, his forks had snapped just below the brakes.
    The wheel was still attached. I examined the severed part
    of the forks and noted that they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-metal
    materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike was a two-
    year old Trek with Kevlar forks.

    Something about this strikes me very oddly. Several
    somethings, in fact.

    To address only the technical issue raised: The metal tube
    inside the stub of the fork that was still on the bike
    doubtless was the metal yoke and mounting tube assembly for
    the carbon fiber fork legs. The end of the tubes would be
    the logical failure point for such an assembly in an
    impact. This does not sound like a Trek fork, however; for
    one thing, they make no mention of Kevlar in their
    literature. Several other carbon component producers use
    Kevlar to reinforce the carbon fiber matrix; such hybrid
    composites are actually quite common in the aerospace and
    military sectors.

    As for the total story...

    I find it very odd that a paralysis-inducing incident did
    not make it into the local news (print or broadcast) in the
    Tacoma area, particularly when such an incident would have
    involved a technically challenging extraction from a trail-
    riding area.

    I find it even more odd that the cyclist involved was
    conscious, let alone coherent enough to answer questions
    about the bike. I find it quite peculiar that if you were
    the first finder of the incident, you were examining the
    bike instead of getting help, though I suppose that it's
    conceivable that if you were carrying a cell phone and
    called 911 from the site, the instructions would have been
    to stay put, do nothing, and wait for help to arrive. In
    that case, I think I might have been looking at the wreckage
    myself. If you weren't the first arriver, I find it odd that
    you had access to the bike; the emergency people on the
    scene ought to have been keeping anyone with no necessary
    skills or equipment well away from the incident.

    Many things about this scenario don't add up.

    Obligatory helmet observation: You didn't say if the rider
    was so equipped. I will not fault those who maintain that
    they'd rather leave such a site in a body bag than in
    permanent paralysis. They can take their chances their way,
    and I'll take mine in the manner I prefer.

    Trollometer rating: moderate to high.

  13. The courage of the rider is a second and even more
    compelling story. There were about eight riders in his pace
    line, nearly all were teenagers (he's
    47) who were from a church-related group and training for
    the Seattle-to-Portland ride next month. I learned they
    were from a church when a co-leader said a prayer over
    the prostrate rider. Just before the accident, I was
    riding about a quarter mile behind with a young man on
    a mountain bike who couldn't keep up with the pace
    line. When we reached the accident site, someone had
    already called 911. The others were standing around
    waiting for the ambulance. At one point two riders
    tried to lift the injured rider's head to give him a
    drink of water. I suggested they not try to move his
    neck. We then sent riders ahead and behind along the
    trail to instruct other riders to dismount and walk by
    the scene. While we waited, I held up my helmet to
    shade him from the sun (temperature was in the 80s --
    hot for western Washington). He talked almost
    conversationally about the bike and how the accident
    happen. All the while he laid on his back with his arms
    and legs stretched out and unmoving.

    The young men were somewhat stunned and didn't know what to
    do or how to act. He talked to them in an unanxious voice,
    as if he were trying to help them maintain composure.
    Occasionally, he talked about the injury. (That's how I
    learned the details.) He was concerned that he couldn't move
    his limbs, but once or twice he felt a nudge when someone
    touched him. That brought him some comfort.

    We probably waited 15-20 minutes before the EMTs arrived. I
    then left because there were too many people hanging around
    and staring at him. I was irritated by some of the cyclists
    who passed by uttering *Poor guy* and *Oh, I'm so sorry.*
    and the worst was *Jesus, really?!! He can't move!?* I
    remember from First Aid training not to utter pessimistic
    comments to help the victim maintain composure.

    I've been trying to locate the medical sources to find out
    the results of his injury. I hope to find out tomorrow or
    the next few days.

    He was a very brave man. I'm sure I would have *freaked
    out.* But he never lost his composure. A true leader in the
    face of tragedy.

    On the way home, I mentioned this incident to someone I'd
    just met. He recounted one time how he fell 35 feet and was
    paralyzed from the neck down for six hours. For the next
    couple weeks, he wore a neck brace and suffered an
    excruciating burning sensation whenever he was touched.

    I hope that the cyclist on the trail that day also is as
    lucky and only suffers temporary injuries.

    "Pistof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dorian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any word on the strength of Kevlar forks? Yesterday I
    came upon an


    accident

    Quoted message said:

    on a local bike trail. The rider had struck a post and
    was paralyzed


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the neck down. During the impact, his forks had snapped
    just below the brakes. The wheel was still attached. I
    examined the severed part of the forks and noted that
    they were cleanly broken.

    Not only did this accident firmly convince me to wear a
    helmet and ride safely, but I'm now suspicious of non-
    metal materials. Should I be? The rider said the bike
    was a two-year old Trek with Kevlar forks.

    That's horrible. Do you know it he'll be paralyzed for the
    rest of his life?

    Dave

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