Kerry has *two* Serottas!

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Yeah, that's a great source. Why would you be reading that
[censored], in the first place. They just had an interview with
Bush senior, showing off his new putting green and
mentioning how he likes to go really fast in his boat. You
don't think those items cost more than a couple of high end
bikes. If he can afford it, why not. I'm sure most
presidents and presidential hopefuls have a few expensive
toys. It just doesn't matter! I think it's great that Kerry
is a cyclist.

Life is Good! Jeff

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Yeah, that's a great source. Why would you be reading that
[censored], in the first place. They just had an interview with
Bush senior, showing off his new putting green and
mentioning how he likes to go really fast in his boat. You
don't think those items cost more than a couple of high
end bikes. If he can afford it, why not. I'm sure most
presidents and presidential hopefuls have a few expensive
toys. It just doesn't matter! I think it's great that
Kerry is a cyclist.

Life is Good! Jeff

Kerry's a cyclist, but he's about as far removed from the
real world as possible. The guy has 5 mansions, a gaggle of
SUVs, private planes----and tries to pass himself off as an
envrionmentalist? He's just as rich, if not richer, than
Bush, and just as crooked. Come one---he's a Yalie, and a
Bonesman, to boot. Just another Bush.

Gooserider said:

Kerry's a cyclist, but he's about as far removed from
the real world as possible. The guy has 5 mansions, a
gaggle of SUVs,

They weren't "his" as of Earth Day - they then reverted to
"the family". Heh.

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private planes----and tries to pass himself off as an
envrionmentalist? He's just as rich, if not richer,
than Bush,

Bush has nowhere NEAR the kind of money in the Heinz-Kerry
estate. Not even remotely close. Still, watch Bush get
singled out as the "rich one"... heh.

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Yeah, that's a great source.

So you dispute the fact he was on those two bikes?

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Kerry's a cyclist, but he's about as far removed from the
real world as possible. The guy has 5 mansions, a gaggle
of SUVs,

They weren't "his" as of Earth Day - they then reverted to
"the family". Heh.

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private planes----and tries to pass himself off as an
envrionmentalist? He's just as rich, if

not

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richer, than Bush,

Bush has nowhere NEAR the kind of money in the Heinz-Kerry
estate. Not even remotely close. Still, watch Bush get
singled out as the "rich one"... heh.

Mark Hickey

Let's admit that a person HAS to be wealthy in order to run
for office and get over the fascination with other people's
riches, shall we?

Pat in TX

Mark Hickey said:

Bush has nowhere NEAR the kind of money in the Heinz-Kerry
estate. Not even remotely close.

Oh, that's just because he tried to make it as a
businessman.

If his dad's friends hadn't rescued him, he'd be bunking at
the Salvation Army by now.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

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So maybe he's the Presidential candidate equivalent of Robin
Williams? Both have enough money to afford quite a stable of
nice machines.

So what's the issue with John Kerry having a pair of
Serottas (or perhaps even more)? I'm sure he has a number of
different places he resides at various times... if you can
afford that, what's the big deal about having a bike at each
(instead of having to haul one bike around all the time)?

As far as luxury items go, even the most expensive of
bikes is pretty affordable compared to what one might
spend on a car, boat, house on the lake, mistress... the
list goes on and on.

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I heard that kerry's bike cost about $8,000, is that
right???????

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Top Sirloin said:

Evidence:

You have a country where it is an absolute necessity to be
extremely rich, white and male to be elected leader of the
nation, and you think the problem is that one of the
candidates uses the equivalent of a small used car on
bikes? Wot?
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Henning

On Thu, 27 May 2004 10:16:32 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Henning

Tveit) said:

You have a country where it is an absolute necessity to be
extremely rich, white and male to be elected leader of the
nation, and you think the problem is that one of the
candidates uses the equivalent of a small used car on
bikes? Wot?

Eisenhower, Johnson, Carter and Clinton were not rich and
could not make the election on their money alone. Johnson
had land, but wasn't cash rich in any sense.

While it never hurt to be a rich white male, arguably party
and national election reforms over the years, taking the
decision making from the back room pols and limiting use of
non-candidate money, have made the nominating process more
volatile and more open to a wealthy outsider using their own
money to be nominated. Curious result and certainly not
intended, but real. As long as the 'reforms' limit money
access and use, the nominating process will heavily favor
either insiders or outsiders that are rich.

Still, even now, it is connections and the ability to raise
money that makes the difference, not individual wealth.
Powell is only well off, but if willing (evidently not from
all reports) he could easily mount a legitimate campaign.
Its not Bush''s small fortune, but his ability to raise
millions in a week of campaiging that makes him an always
formidable opponent. He's probably raised 20-30 times his
own fortune in the last three election cycles.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

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Kerry's a cyclist, but he's about as far removed from the
real world as possible. The guy has 5 mansions, a gaggle
of SUVs, private planes----and tries to pass himself off
as an envrionmentalist? He's just as rich, if not richer,
than Bush, and just as crooked. Come one---he's a Yalie,
and a Bonesman, to boot. Just another Bush.

The only difference is that Kerry married his money, instead
of inheriting it.

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David Kerber said:

The only difference is that Kerry married his money,
instead of inheriting it.

Please show me where Bush inherited his money.

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David Kerber said:

The only difference is that Kerry married his money,
instead of inheriting it.

I forgot to mention that I'm going down to Branson in a
couple of weeks and hope to have a nice loop scouted out and
mapped for you.

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I heard that kerry's bike cost about $8,000, is that
right???????

No, that just the cost of his wheels. More like $80,000 for
the whole deal!!!!!!!!

DUMBA**.

APP

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David Kerber said:

The only difference is that Kerry married his money,
instead of inheriting it.

I forgot to mention that I'm going down to Branson in a
couple of weeks and hope to have a nice loop scouted out
and mapped for you.

Cool; thanks!

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David Kerber said:

The only difference is that Kerry married his money,
instead of inheriting it.

Please show me where Bush inherited his money.

I could be wrong, but didn't his father make most of the
money in that family? I know W made some of his own, but
didn't most of it came from dad's seed money?

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Pat said:

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He's just as rich, if not richer, than Bush,

Bush has nowhere NEAR the kind of money in the Heinz-
Kerry estate. Not even remotely close. Still, watch Bush
get singled out as the "rich one"... heh.

Let's admit that a person HAS to be wealthy in order to run
for office and get over the fascination with other people's
riches, shall we?

I have no problem with that - just finding it kinda funny
that those who want to denounce Bush as "rich" are going to
have to deal with lots of cognitive dissonance if they plan
to vote for Kerry.

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the $695 ti frame

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

So maybe he's the Presidential candidate equivalent of
Robin Williams? Both have enough money to afford quite a
stable of nice machines.

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So what's the issue with John Kerry having a pair of
Serottas (or perhaps even more)? I'm sure he has a number
of different places he resides at various times... if you
can afford that, what's the big deal about having a bike
at each (instead of having to haul one bike around all
the time)?

Quoted message said:

As far as luxury items go, even the most expensive of
bikes is pretty affordable compared to what one might
spend on a car, boat, house on the lake, mistress... the
list goes on and on.

If you include this one, it looks like he has 3...

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;-)

-alan

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David Kerber said:

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David Kerber said:

The only difference is that Kerry married his money,
instead of inheriting it.

Please show me where Bush inherited his money.

I could be wrong, but didn't his father make most of the
money in that family? I know W made some of his own, but
didn't most of it came from dad's seed money?

I looked and couldn't find anything definitive either
way. I saw no mention of his father providing seed money
for Arbusto.

I did read this today though:

"In 1990, the Senate barred senators from accepting outside
speaking fees. Mr. Kerry had often earned an extra $25,000
to $30,000 annually from speeches. He opened several lines
of personal credit, some as large as $100,000, at Boston
banks. His parents also provided a financial "safety valve"
when times got tight, he says.

Mr. Kerry says he doesn't remember how much money he drew
down from those lines...."

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