"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:42:56 -0400, "Steve Freides"
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Quoted message said:"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:In article <[email hidden]>,
"Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> http://www.kbnj.com/SQ_205.wmv
>
> The angle isn't perfect but I think you can see how much
> dorsiflexion
> I'm getting or not getting - I frankly thought it was much less
> than
> this.
>
> This is a 205 lb. squat (1-1/3 times bw), narrow and turned out
> stance,
> with about a one-second pause at the bottom, as deep as I can take
> it
> and still keep my back in good shape. (I think my lower back
> position
> looks pretty good - y'all can tell me if you disagree.)
>
> It's been around a year since my first meet, which makes it around
> a
> year and two months since I started squatting. I'm pleased with
> how
> it's coming along - I've got a long way to go but I'm making solid,
> slow
> progress.
It looks like sufficient dorsiflexion for that type of squat.
You are also going much deeper than you were last time I saw a clip.
Music to my ears!
Why? How deep below parallel doesn't really matter unless you are
front squatting. It sounds like you are trying to go as low as you
can possible go but I don't see why you should care. It's not like
you are catching a clean or a [censored].
If you want to go ATG in the back squat, just go down until you can't
go any more and then come back up. I'm baffled by what it is you are
trying to accomplish.
How I do in a meet isn't the most important thing to me, John. I want
to continue to post better and better numbers, but with the light
weights I move around, I've got plenty of room to make progress for a
while yet. 🙂 All kidding aside, all of why I got into lifting and much
of why I stay in it has to do with keeping my bad back healthy, and I've
come to realize that to do that, I've got to be as strong and as
flexible as I can be. Maybe it doesn't work that way for everyone but
that's how I feel it works for me.
Squatting deep is part of that. I feel like I ought to be able to squat
very deep, and if I can't, it's because I'm still not master of my body
in the movement. What I'm trying to accomplish is, well, I think you
get the idea by now, at least I hope you do. 🙂
Interestingly, my squats got deeper after the DragonDoor "Unlock!"
weekend - much to my surprise, we spent more time working on squatting
deeply than on any other movement. Just bodyweight, but I learned a lot
of things and got to practice them enough that I could bring some of
them to my barbell back squat, although I don't think I could explain it
all to anyone else.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Is depth being defined by dorsiflexion, lower back rounding or
simply
bady parts hitting? (calves against hamstrings, quads against torso)
Honestly, I don't know. A few weeks ago I felt like I was hitting
ATTG
depth, thighs on calves, but when I looked at the video, it didn't
look
that deep, so I worked on getting it deeper and definitely got lower.
I
think probably the only way to tell is to put on Oly shoes and see if
I
can go deeper - if I can, then dorsiflexion will be the limiting
factor
(assuming I understand all this right). Given how my back looks, I
imagine I could get lower without getting into a bad place in that
regard, and although my thighs and calves are in contact, they could
be
in contact lower down, I think.
Quoted message said:To me it looks like depth is pretty much ATTG - that is as deep as
possible.
That's good to hear. This weight was my meet opener last time and I
think if I do some practice _not_ going that deep as the meet
approaches, I should be good for a new PR. I did 5 singles with that
weight plus a bit more today; the tape was of the first rep.
I think you are better off trying to hit a depth about 3/4 of an inch
or so below parallel if you are getting ready for a meet. ATG squats
aren't going to give you much in the way of carryover and it's more
important to get a feel for legal depth.
The next meet I have is either December or January so I'm in no hurry to
do meet-specific prep and, besides, if I can squat this way and hit a
new PR at the meet, I might just keep squatting this way. I know this
might sound trite but it really feels good to squat this way - great on
the knees because of the large ROM, great on the lower back because it
has to open up in the lumbar region without rounding, hamstrings are
getting nicely stretched, hip flexors are getting a lot of work actively
pulling me down into the hole as well as on the way back up - it just
plain feels good. The more I squat this way, the more I like it, and
the deeper I go, the better it feels.
I know, I'm just too weird for you to figure out, but I'm happy - what
else can I tell you? 🙂
-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
