keeping honest

Just out of curiosity - how's your weight loss going? Most people might think
that your calorie intake is a bit low, but I am not one to say anything because
my knowledge on nutritional front isn't very good. I think 70 g wouldn't get
you in ketosis but you wouldn't be putting on weight either, which is quite
important as well!!

"Selfish" - in what aspects? About food choice or about the time you spend on
exercising??

Lorelei said:

source grams cals %total
Total: 987
Fat: 49 442 45%
Sat: 16 141 14%
Poly: 7 64 6%
Mono: 15 132 13%
Carbs: 74 279 29%
Fiber: 4 0 0%
Protein: 32 127 13%
Alcohol: 19 131 13%

this is today. I also cleaned like crazy and decorated for Christmas.
Yesterday I walked 3 miles on the treadmill at Curves and then did the
circuit. Later that night I played 4 long games of VB. It takes us a good 90
min to play 4 games. and that is all we get. Sometimes we have to rally the
last game because our volleys go on for so long. This isn't super LC by any
means, but my goal is to get active enough so that 70 net carbs is "livable"
for me. In the past I have tended to overdue it for quite a long period of
time (1 yr, the cancer diagnosis was like being kicked in the chest by a
horse, otherwise I believe I would have kept it up. )

I have to learn how to be fit and healthy without being too what others in
my home call "selfish". I'm not sure what that means because it would depend
on who's scale you measure it to.
That is my New Year's Resolution just a wee bit early this year.

Lori
trying to find a balance in the middle of an earthquake

I was wondering about the ultra-low calories too especially since the OP is
so active. I'm surprised she can be that active with so little to fuel her
body.

Ada Ma said:

Just out of curiosity - how's your weight loss going? Most people might think
that your calorie intake is a bit low, but I am not one to say anything because
my knowledge on nutritional front isn't very good. I think 70 g wouldn't get
you in ketosis but you wouldn't be putting on weight either, which is quite
important as well!!

-----
Bev

I'll bet that this is a particular day's data, and not typical of a 2
month's average of your data.

(The subject is: "keeping honest" Right?)

"Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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source grams cals %total
Total: 987
Fat: 49 442 45%
Sat: 16 141 14%
Poly: 7 64 6%
Mono: 15 132 13%
Carbs: 74 279 29%
Fiber: 4 0 0%
Protein: 32 127 13%
Alcohol: 19 131 13%

this is today. I also cleaned like crazy and decorated for Christmas.
Yesterday I walked 3 miles on the treadmill at Curves and then did the
circuit. Later that night I played 4 long games of VB. It takes us a good

90

Quoted message said:

min to play 4 games. and that is all we get. Sometimes we have to rally

the

Quoted message said:

last game because our volleys go on for so long. This isn't super LC by

any

Quoted message said:

means, but my goal is to get active enough so that 70 net carbs is

"livable"

Quoted message said:

for me. In the past I have tended to overdue it for quite a long period of
time (1 yr, the cancer diagnosis was like being kicked in the chest by a
horse, otherwise I believe I would have kept it up. )

I have to learn how to be fit and healthy without being too what others in
my home call "selfish". I'm not sure what that means because it would

depend

Quoted message said:

on who's scale you measure it to.
That is my New Year's Resolution just a wee bit early this year.

Lori
trying to find a balance in the middle of an earthquake

"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just out of curiosity - how's your weight loss going? Most people might
think that your calorie intake is a bit low, but I am not one to say
anything because my knowledge on nutritional front isn't very good. I
think 70 g wouldn't get you in ketosis but you wouldn't be putting on
weight either, which is quite important as well!!

"Selfish" - in what aspects? About food choice or about the time you
spend on exercising??

Selfish as in exercising, food choices, window shopping and trying on
clothes (motivates me even if I don't buy anything).
I've been keeping my cals between 900-1600 with a weekly average of
1200/day.
I am going to weigh on Saturdays at work for awhile- S4 flooded the bathroom
so many times that my Tanita scale goes through batteries like water through
a sieve. LOL
still at 160.
--
Lori
220/160/144
LC since 1/17/03
back on track 11/10/04
Devoted wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I was wondering about the ultra-low calories too especially since the OP is
so active. I'm surprised she can be that active with so little to fuel
her
body.

I've posted other day's breakdown and they vary from 900-1600. averaging
around 1200.
So that was just a low day because I was so busy that I didn't eat until
1600.
here is today already and it is just 1100
Total: 368
Fat: 22 198 54%
Sat: 7 67 18%
Poly: 3 25 7%
Mono: 8 74 20%
Carbs: 28 77 21%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 23 93 25%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I think just using Fitday is a great motivator.

--
Lori
220/160/144
LC since 1/17/03
back on track 11/10/04
Devoted wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

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I'll bet that this is a particular day's data, and not typical of a 2
month's average of your data.

(The subject is: "keeping honest" Right?)

I never said it was a daily deal. I've posted 4-5 days. Keep reading the
thread.
and why do you seem to be questioning my honesty? ???????????????
Pick on someone your own size.

That still seems low to me. I don't workout or get any regular exercise
and lost all the weight I wanted to (23 pounds) eating between 1400 and
1600 calories/day. I can't imagine doing all that you're doing on so
little food. :-)

on Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:57:40 GMT, "Lorelei" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've posted other day's breakdown and they vary from 900-1600. averaging
around 1200.
So that was just a low day because I was so busy that I didn't eat until
1600.
here is today already and it is just 1100
Total: 368
Fat: 22 198 54%
Sat: 7 67 18%
Poly: 3 25 7%
Mono: 8 74 20%
Carbs: 28 77 21%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 23 93 25%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I think just using Fitday is a great motivator.

-----
Bev

Anyone have some good ideas what to put on sugar free Jell-O. I do a
little whip cream I make myself. And a table spoon of heavy cream. It is
getting boring.

As a side note. I have finally fell into a good routine. I was having
trouble with the induction and since I was on maintenance for 12 years I
seem to be able to maintain just not lose the added weight. After
failing on induction 3 times I decided to try to modify my maintenance
to an OWL situation. I was 198, and now Im 193 with a goal of 188.
Although it is coming off slowly (3 weeks) it seems to be working.
Has anyone else failed induction and still lost but just on a slower
basis. Also I think maintenance is probably a little more important over
the long haul to get right....
Your thoughts.....
Warren

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:28:05 -0500, warren <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Anyone have some good ideas what to put on sugar free Jell-O. I do a
little whip cream I make myself. And a table spoon of heavy cream. It is
getting boring.

As a side note. I have finally fell into a good routine. I was having
trouble with the induction and since I was on maintenance for 12 years I
seem to be able to maintain just not lose the added weight. After
failing on induction 3 times I decided to try to modify my maintenance
to an OWL situation. I was 198, and now Im 193 with a goal of 188.
Although it is coming off slowly (3 weeks) it seems to be working.
Has anyone else failed induction and still lost but just on a slower
basis. Also I think maintenance is probably a little more important over
the long haul to get right....
Your thoughts.....
Warren

I think everyone has to play around to find out what works best. If
induction is too strict - why torture yourself? It's better to lose
slowly than to gain.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150
http://photos.yahoo.com/lybbe

A few berries are a great addition to SF Jello. Throw in a couple of fresh
strawberries sliced up after it's made or add some frozen berries when you
are making it. Costco has wonderful big bags of Triple Berry
blend--raspberries, blackberries and blueberries.

In news:[email hidden],
warren <[email hidden]> stated
| Anyone have some good ideas what to put on sugar free Jell-O. I do a
| little whip cream I make myself. And a table spoon of heavy cream. It
| is getting boring.
|
| As a side note. I have finally fell into a good routine. I was having
| trouble with the induction and since I was on maintenance for 12
| years I seem to be able to maintain just not lose the added weight.
| After failing on induction 3 times I decided to try to modify my
| maintenance to an OWL situation. I was 198, and now Im 193 with a
| goal of 188. Although it is coming off slowly (3 weeks) it seems to
| be working.
| Has anyone else failed induction and still lost but just on a slower
| basis. Also I think maintenance is probably a little more important
| over the long haul to get right....
| Your thoughts.....
| Warren

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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That still seems low to me. I don't workout or get any regular exercise
and lost all the weight I wanted to (23 pounds) eating between 1400 and
1600 calories/day. I can't imagine doing all that you're doing on so
little food. :-)

I started out waaayyy heavier than I am now. like 220 lb
if I eat 8x my body weight that is 1280.

I survive on pure will to do so. People who actually know me are amazed on
how much energy I have considering all the [censored] that my family deals with on
a daily basis.
and I have been overeating for a few months now, so I have lots of fat to
burn. : )
I was 144 lbs last Christmas. I plan to be back to that by early in the new
year.

here is Dec 1
Total: 1111
Fat: 61 549 50%
Sat: 17 152 14%
Poly: 3 27 2%
Mono: 10 92 8%
Carbs: 61 200 18%
Fiber: 11 0 0%
Protein: 55 220 20%
Alcohol: 19 131 12%

and this is my activities

Total: 2842
Basal: 1480 52%
Lifestyle: 751 26%
Activities: 611 22%

--
Lori
220/163/144
LC since 1/17/03
back on track 11/1/04
Devoted wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

Lorelei said:

"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Just out of curiosity - how's your weight loss going? Most people might
think that your calorie intake is a bit low, but I am not one to say
anything because my knowledge on nutritional front isn't very good. I
think 70 g wouldn't get you in ketosis but you wouldn't be putting on
weight either, which is quite important as well!!

"Selfish" - in what aspects? About food choice or about the time you
spend on exercising??

Selfish as in exercising, food choices, window shopping and trying on
clothes (motivates me even if I don't buy anything).
I've been keeping my cals between 900-1600 with a weekly average of
1200/day.

That's not selfish according to my book. That's call looking after yourself!
You can't just look after others and do nothing about yourself, it's like I
can't work all the time and leave my flat and myself run into seeds!

Quoted message said:

I am going to weigh on Saturdays at work for awhile- S4 flooded the bathroom
so many times that my Tanita scale goes through batteries like water through
a sieve. LOL
still at 160.

I use a low tech scale with a red line and a spinning thing showing the numbers.
No batteries to change but the weight fluctuates quite a lot depending on how
I stand (toes pointing inward, toes pointing outward, legs far apart, legs close
together, slightly towards the front, towards the back, left and right, etc.,
you get the idea), temperature.

160 isn't bad. only another 16 to go!!! i'm losing at the rate of 1 lb a month
- OK, I drink too much...... milk (LOL), but anyway, just to let you know that
there are losers who are losing much slower than you. :-)

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160 isn't bad. only another 16 to go!!! i'm losing at the rate of 1 lb a
month - OK, I drink too much...... milk (LOL), but anyway, just to let you
know that there are losers who are losing much slower than you. :-)

BUt last Christmas I was 144!!! I've gained and it really is harder to take
off every time I gain it!
Lori

That sounds very good..... maybe a banana, (just a little
Warren

FOB said:

A few berries are a great addition to SF Jello. Throw in a couple of fresh
strawberries sliced up after it's made or add some frozen berries when you
are making it. Costco has wonderful big bags of Triple Berry
blend--raspberries, blackberries and blueberries.

In news:[email hidden],
warren <[email hidden]> stated
| Anyone have some good ideas what to put on sugar free Jell-O. I do a
| little whip cream I make myself. And a table spoon of heavy cream. It
| is getting boring.
|
| As a side note. I have finally fell into a good routine. I was having
| trouble with the induction and since I was on maintenance for 12
| years I seem to be able to maintain just not lose the added weight.
| After failing on induction 3 times I decided to try to modify my
| maintenance to an OWL situation. I was 198, and now Im 193 with a
| goal of 188. Although it is coming off slowly (3 weeks) it seems to
| be working.
| Has anyone else failed induction and still lost but just on a slower
| basis. Also I think maintenance is probably a little more important
| over the long haul to get right....
| Your thoughts.....
| Warren

Lorelei said:

Selfish as in exercising, food choices, window shopping and trying on
clothes (motivates me even if I don't buy anything).

Lori, that's not being selfish. That's looking after yourself so that
you take the stress of THAT off Curt, who doesn't need you to be
running yourself into the ground and visibly grieving every time you
look at him.

It's keeping yourself strong and centred so that you can be his
support as he takes the next step. So that when the inevitable
happens you can be the rock that holds the family together while you
all cry together and hold on tight to each other and to his memory.

It's giving yourself a kick-start to be able to go on living (as I'm
sure he wants you to), taking the memories of the love you shared into
a bright and happy future where thoughts of him will bring you joy,
not sorrow.

Keep on being Selfish! It's good not just for you, but for your
beloved and your family.

Aramanth.

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Lorelei said:

Selfish as in exercising, food choices, window shopping and trying on
clothes (motivates me even if I don't buy anything).

Lori, that's not being selfish. That's looking after yourself so that
you take the stress of THAT off Curt, who doesn't need you to be
running yourself into the ground and visibly grieving every time you
look at him.

It's keeping yourself strong and centred so that you can be his
support as he takes the next step. So that when the inevitable
happens you can be the rock that holds the family together while you
all cry together and hold on tight to each other and to his memory.

It's giving yourself a kick-start to be able to go on living (as I'm
sure he wants you to), taking the memories of the love you shared into
a bright and happy future where thoughts of him will bring you joy,
not sorrow.

Keep on being Selfish! It's good not just for you, but for your
beloved and your family.

Aramanth.

thank you so much....I appreciate it.
Lori

Lorelei said:

"Aramanth Dawe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Lorelei said:

Selfish as in exercising, food choices, window shopping and trying on
clothes (motivates me even if I don't buy anything).

Lori, that's not being selfish. That's looking after yourself so that
you take the stress of THAT off Curt, who doesn't need you to be
running yourself into the ground and visibly grieving every time you
look at him.

It's keeping yourself strong and centred so that you can be his
support as he takes the next step. So that when the inevitable
happens you can be the rock that holds the family together while you
all cry together and hold on tight to each other and to his memory.

It's giving yourself a kick-start to be able to go on living (as I'm
sure he wants you to), taking the memories of the love you shared into
a bright and happy future where thoughts of him will bring you joy,
not sorrow.

Keep on being Selfish! It's good not just for you, but for your
beloved and your family.

Aramanth.

thank you so much....I appreciate it.
Lori

You're welcome, Lori.

If your doctor could say to you "I can offer you a medication that
would mean that for one hour a day you need to be AWAY from your
family and the stresses it places on you, but the other 23 hours of
every day you could be stronger and better able to cope" you'd be
interested, right? You wouldn't consider it 'selfish' to be away for
one hour of the day if it made things easier and better for everyone
the rest of the time.

Eating the right things, getting some regular exercise, going window
shopping - these are all therapy to help you to be stronger (for
everyone) and cope better with the raw deal you've got. Take the
therapy and use it to improve the things it can. You deserve a little
time to pamper yourself.

Aramanth

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"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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160 isn't bad. only another 16 to go!!! i'm losing at the rate of 1 lb

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

month - OK, I drink too much...... milk (LOL), but anyway, just to let

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know that there are losers who are losing much slower than you. :-)

BUt last Christmas I was 144!!! I've gained and it really is harder to

take

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off every time I gain it!
Lori

Comeon Lori! Sometimes we can do more, sometimes we can do less. May be
now it's just one of those times when you can do less than what you want.
Being harsh to yourself it's not going to help though. You'll lose it when
you have the energy and time to put your mind to it. Don't think about last
Christmas, what is in the past is gone. It took you a year to put that 16
lbs on, right? Well then it might take you a year to take that off too!
Just don't gain anymore so that your task doesn't get any bigger than it
currently is. You'll be 144 again and you'll be fine.

warren said:

That sounds very good..... maybe a banana, (just a little

Banana has almost 3 times as much carb.
1/2 a cup sliced strawberries - 6.37g carb
1/2 a cup sliced banana - 17.13g carb

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FOB said:

A few berries are a great addition to SF Jello. Throw in a couple of fresh
strawberries sliced up after it's made or add some frozen berries when you
are making it. Costco has wonderful big bags of Triple Berry
blend--raspberries, blackberries and blueberries.

--
jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."