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  1. Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the license to practice medicine and surgery
    of respondent is LIMITED as provided in §448.02(3)(e), Wis. Stats., and as
    follows:

    1.. Respondent shall provide all patients with the attached "Notice to
    Patients" before commencing any treatment or therapy, and shall retain a
    copy in the chart.
    2.. Respondent shall not engage or participate in any research on human
    subjects without the specific consent of the Board, which consent shall not
    be unreasonably withheld.
    3.. Respondent shall not prescribe, dispense, or administer any
    prescription drug which is not FDA approved, or legally compounded using
    only ingredients which can be legally obtained for the purpose of medical
    treatment.
    4.. Respondent may offer chelation therapy only if the patient signs the
    form which is attached to this Order
    5.. All testing shall be performed by a CLIA regulated laboratory which
    is authorized to do the test performed.
    6.. Respondent shall make no statement concerning a patient's condition,
    orally or in writing, to any third party payor or a patient (or patient's
    caregiver) which is not clearly supportable by the patient's health care
    record. Respondent shall not make any statement to a third party payor or a
    patient (or patient's caregiver) that a patient has abnormal levels of any
    substance without enclosing the laboratory report which supports that
    statement.
    7.. Respondent shall not use any advertising which is false, misleading,
    or deceptive, including but not limited to the conduct described in pars.
    2-4, of the Findings of Fact, above.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that respondent's license is LIMITED in the
    following respect: respondent shall forthwith undergo an assessment to
    evaluate respondent's current abilities to practice medicine at his current
    practice, with his current patient population, and given the Stipulation and
    Order and facts of this case. Respondent may propose members of the
    assessment panel, but the selection of assessors is entirely within the
    discretion of the Program. The assessment shall include medical
    recordkeeping and be performed under the direction of the University of
    Wisconsin Continuing Medical Education Program (UW-CME) or another provider
    acceptable to the Board, and may include a cognitive screening assessment,
    peer interview, and/or physical examination. Respondent shall have completed
    all portions of the assessment process for which he is responsible
    (including payment of all required fees), as requested by UW-CME, on a
    schedule as established by UW-CME, but no later than 90 days after the date
    of this Order, unless the Board grants an extension at the request of
    UW-CME.
    If the results of this assessment process shows a material deficiency in
    respondent's abilities, respondent shall participate in and successfully
    complete an educational program established through the UW-CME based upon on
    the results of the assessment. Respondent shall complete this program within
    the time parameters established by the UW-CME, but no later than two years
    from the date of this Order.
    Respondent shall be responsible for all costs incurred for the
    assessment and educational program under the terms of this Order, and shall
    timely pay all fees when due.
    The UW-CME shall certify to the Board the results of the assessment and
    educational program upon the completion of the assessment and upon the
    completion of the educational program. Upon receipt of certification of
    completion of the terms and conditions set forth above, the Medical
    Examining Board shall inform respondent that his obligations under this
    portion of this order have been satisfied, and that his license is no longer
    limited in this respect.
    Upon completion of the UW-CME assessment and, if applicable, the
    subsequent educational program as described in this section, respondent
    shall, at his own expense, retain a physician who is board certified in a
    specialty recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties, who is
    acceptable to the Board, such acceptance not to be unreasonably withheld.
    The retained physician shall, on behalf of the Board, review a sampling of
    respondent's patient charts generated after the date of this Order as the
    retained physician shall determine, no less often than every three months,
    or as the retained physician shall determine is necessary to timely review
    the records, and shall report to the Board any conduct which may be in
    violation of this Order. The retained physician's sole duty is to the Board
    and not to any patient or third party. Respondent shall cooperate at all
    times with the retained physician including by timely paying any fees in
    full, answering questions, and providing supplemental information promptly
    when requested.

    The chart review described herein shall terminate after two years of
    reviews, unless the Board extends it for cause.

    If applicable, should respondent not successfully complete the educational
    program, this matter shall be referred to the Board to determine any other
    appropriate action relative to the conduct set out in the Findings of Fact,
    which may include any action permitted by §448.02(3)(c), Wis. Stats.
    Respondent and the Division will have the opportunity to present argument to
    the Board on that issue. The Board and respondent will receive the results
    of the assessment and respondent's status relative to completing the
    educational program, as evidence in determining appropriate action, if any.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that whether respondent shall pay the costs of
    investigating and prosecuting this matter shall be determined by the Board
    in a separate order.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED. If the Board determines that there is probable
    cause to believe that respondent has violated any term of this Final
    Decision and Order, that finding of probable cause following an opportunity
    to be heard shall be deemed legally sufficient for action under §448.02(4),
    Wis. Stats.

  2. Nana Weedkiller said:

    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    Anxiously awaiting Tim Bolen's spin on this one....

    Stay tuned...

    --
    Kirk Kolas, DVM

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kirk Kolas said:
    Nana Weedkiller said:

    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    Anxiously awaiting Tim Bolen's spin on this one....

    Stay tuned...

    Three possibilities come to mind:

    1) No mention at all

    2) Foam-at-the-mouth rage at the board

    3) Declaration of victory.

    Options 2 and 3 are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  4. Good grief. The guy didn't lose his license, and can keep doing chelation
    therapy. Obviously this is the settlement agreement that Tim alluded to.

    It is a faint slap on the wrist-- that misses, really.

    But best for all concerned, IMHO.

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of
    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  5. Unfortunately WISC-TV's web site does see this as a victory for Kadile
    and chelation therapy. The third part of their broadcast aired last
    night and was called "State Drops Case Against Alternative Medicine
    Doctor"

    The Madison, Wisconsin TV station has been almost totally one-sided in
    its coverage of the Kadile hearing. You can still see their latest
    video and download the text from their web site.

    http://www.channel3000.com/news/2661190/detail.html

    I personally don't see it as a victory for Kadile from where I sit and
    neither does Bob Baratz who has been targetted by Tim Bolen in
    numerous posts on the internet. Here is what Dr. Baratz had to say
    about this decision (they call is a "stipulation"😉:

    Despite attestations from a notorious source of misinformation that
    the Kadile negotiations had broken down, Eleazar M. Kadile, MD of
    Green Bay, Wisconsin has signed a stipulation with the Medical Board
    of Wisconsin on Friday, November 21st and agreed to be disciplined,
    and have his license limited.

    Kadile had been charged with multiple deviations from the standard of
    care, listed here: http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/kadile.html

    Trial testimony supported these charges. After four days of testimony
    in October/November 2002, the trial was stopped by the defense in
    November of 2002 and a settlement agreement was negotiated. Kadile
    failed to sign the agreement. After dismissing his attorney, delaying
    for several months, and then retaining another attorney, who asked for
    further delays several trial dates were postponed by the defense.
    More testimony by the State was added as prefiled statements in the
    Spring of 2003.

    After further delays, a limited amount of cross examination occurred
    in July of 2003. The defense failed to rebut any testimony offered
    against Kadile, or cross examine the witnesses on any of the charges
    against Kadile. Thereafter the judge "encouraged" settlement talks
    again. They recently concluded before additional testimony regarding
    Kadile was added. The defense had recently postponed several
    additional trial dates.

    The charges and testimony regarding Kadile remain unrebutted.

    Significant features of the agreement are noted below, they are
    extracted from the settlement documents:

    Respondent agrees not to claim in any legal or administrative
    proceeding that the discipline imposed was not justified by the
    Findings of Fact stated.

    (The Board's final decision and order is a public record):

    Respondent has engaged in the treatment of several patients in a
    manner that raised one or more of the following concerns: the patient
    records appeared to be inadequate relative to legibility, history,
    physical exam, patient complaints and actions taken relative thereto,
    existing medical conditions, diagnostic testing, recommended
    treatment, informed consent, communication with other medical
    providers, diagnosis and management of medical conditions, and the
    accuracy of correspondence sent to third party payers regarding EDTA
    chelation therapy.

    (the Board infers "negligence" as defined by law):

    The Board concludes that the conduct described above violated one or
    more of the following: § Med 10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, and
    §448.02(3)(c) Wis. Stats.

    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the license to practice medicine and
    surgery of respondent is LIMITED as provided in §448.02(3)(e), Wis.
    Stats., and as follows:

    1.. Respondent shall provide all patients with the attached
    "Notice to Patients" before commencing any treatment or therapy, and
    shall retain a copy in the chart.
    2.. Respondent shall not engage or participate in any research on
    human subjects without the specific consent of the Board, which
    consent shall not be unreasonably withheld.
    3.. Respondent shall not prescribe, dispense, or administer any
    prescription drug which is not FDA approved, or legally compounded
    using only ingredients which can be legally obtained for the purpose
    of medical treatment.
    4.. Respondent may offer chelation therapy only if the patient
    signs the form which is attached to this Order
    5.. All testing shall be performed by a CLIA regulated laboratory
    which is authorized to do the test performed.
    6.. Respondent shall make no statement concerning a patient's
    condition, orally or in writing, to any third party payor or a patient
    (or patient's caregiver) which is not clearly supportable by the
    patient's health care record. Respondent shall not make any statement
    to a third party payor or a patient (or patient's caregiver) that a
    patient has abnormal levels of any substance without enclosing the
    laboratory report which supports that statement.
    7.. Respondent shall not use any advertising which is false,
    misleading, or deceptive, including but not limited to the conduct
    described in pars. 2-4, of the Findings of Fact, above.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that respondent's license is LIMITED in the
    following respect: respondent shall forthwith undergo an assessment to
    evaluate respondent's current abilities to practice medicine at his
    current practice, with his current patient population, and given the
    Stipulation and Order and facts of this case. Respondent may propose
    members of the assessment panel, but the selection of assessors is
    entirely within the discretion of the Program. The assessment shall
    include medical recordkeeping and be performed under the direction of
    the University of Wisconsin Continuing Medical Education Program
    (UW-CME) or another provider acceptable to the Board, and may include
    a cognitive screening assessment, peer interview, and/or physical
    examination. Respondent shall have completed all portions of the
    assessment process for which he is responsible (including payment of
    all required fees), as requested by UW-CME, on a schedule as
    established by UW-CME, but no later than 90 days after the date of
    this Order, unless the Board grants an extension at the request of
    UW-CME.

    If the results of this assessment process shows a material
    deficiency in respondent's abilities, respondent shall participate in
    and successfully complete an educational program established through
    the UW-CME based upon on the results of the assessment. Respondent
    shall complete this program within the time parameters established by
    the UW-CME, but no later than two years from the date of this Order.

    Respondent shall be responsible for all costs incurred for the
    assessment and educational program under the terms of this Order, and
    shall timely pay all fees when due.

    The UW-CME shall certify to the Board the results of the
    assessment and educational program upon the completion of the
    assessment and upon the completion of the educational program. Upon
    receipt of certification of completion of the terms and conditions set
    forth above, the Medical Examining Board shall inform respondent that
    his obligations under this portion of this order have been satisfied,
    and that his license is no longer limited in this respect.

    Upon completion of the UW-CME assessment and, if applicable, the
    subsequent educational program as described in this section,
    respondent shall, at his own expense, retain a physician who is board
    certified in a specialty recognized by the American Board of Medical
    Specialties, who is acceptable to the Board, such acceptance not to be
    unreasonably withheld. The retained physician shall, on behalf of the
    Board, review a sampling of respondent's patient charts generated
    after the date of this Order as the retained physician shall
    determine, no less often than every three months, or as the retained
    physician shall determine is necessary to timely review the records,
    and shall report to the Board any conduct which may be in violation of
    this Order. The retained physician's sole duty is to the Board and not
    to any patient or third party. Respondent shall cooperate at all times
    with the retained physician including by timely paying any fees in
    full, answering questions, and providing supplemental information
    promptly when requested.

    The chart review described herein shall terminate after two years of
    reviews, unless the Board extends it for cause.

    If applicable, should respondent not successfully complete the
    educational program, this matter shall be referred to the Board to
    determine any other appropriate action relative to the conduct set out
    in the Findings of Fact, which may include any action permitted by
    §448.02(3)(c), Wis. Stats. Respondent and the Division will have the
    opportunity to present argument to the Board on that issue. The Board
    and respondent will receive the results of the assessment and
    respondent's status relative to completing the educational program, as
    evidence in determining appropriate action, if any.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that whether respondent shall pay the costs
    of investigating and prosecuting this matter shall be determined by
    the Board in a separate order.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED. If the Board determines that there is
    probable cause to believe that respondent has violated any term of
    this Final Decision and Order, that finding of probable cause
    following an opportunity to be heard shall be deemed legally
    sufficient for action under §448.02(4), Wis. Stats.

    [Editorial note: The Notice to Patients states that: Kadile is not a
    primary care physician, doesn't have hospital privileges, etc. The
    Chelation Notice: REQUIRED DISCLOSURE FOR ETHYLENEDIAMINETETRAACETIC
    ACID (EDTA) CHELATION THERAPY warns patients in several ways about
    this method, and indicates that the forms of EDTA available don't
    treat cardiovascular disease and are not approved for that purpose.
    It notes that major medical organizations (which are named) do not
    recommend EDTA for "any human disease, illness, malady or physical
    condition other than those for which it is labeled". Patients have to
    wait 3 days before starting such treatment, if they so elect to have
    it.]

    Terry Polevoy, MD
    Healthwatcher.net
    http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Chelation/

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kirk Kolas said:
    Nana Weedkiller said:

    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    Anxiously awaiting Tim Bolen's spin on this one....

    Stay tuned...

    Three possibilities come to mind:

    1) No mention at all

    2) Foam-at-the-mouth rage at the board

    3) Declaration of victory.

    Options 2 and 3 are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  6. Quoted message said:


    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    Ah, the sweet smell of rich, creamy Justice, served hot!

  7. Quoted message said:

    Good grief. The guy didn't lose his license, and can keep doing chelation
    therapy. Obviously this is the settlement agreement that Tim alluded to.

    It is a faint slap on the wrist-- that misses, really.

    But best for all concerned, IMHO.

    BL

    Faint slap on the wrist, eh? The man has been told he has to actually document
    that people have heavy metal toxicity BEFORE billing them to treat it! The man
    has to go back to school to learn proper record keeping and procedure. The man
    will very likely have to pay the court costs on top of the order to pay for his
    re-training.

    The very best he could do was keep a limited license with the stipulation that
    he will be observed so that he can't resume his shannanigans.

    Let's see if Tim B can do a better job of spinning this train wreck.

  8. I think it is a good decision, Ilsa. The main thing is it is a compromise and
    it is out of the courts. And if the guy was doing improper billing to
    insurance companies it needs to stop.

    Mainly, though, this settlement in no way stops a person's right to use
    chelation therapy if they so chose, nor does it limit his right to administer
    it.

    Ridiculous that it took all this time and money to come to an agreement.

    Not sure how the attorney fees in all this will come out. That will still be
    left up to the courts.

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    And now they may have to contend with all sorts of protective legislation in
    Wisconsin coming out of this------, something of a backfire reaction.

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of
    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  9. Quoted message said:

    I think it is a good decision, Ilsa. The main thing is it is a compromise
    and
    it is out of the courts. And if the guy was doing improper billing to
    insurance companies it needs to stop.

    I agree and let me say that Kadile isn't a monster. He isn't a butcher and he
    doesn't appear to be greedy. However, he does seem a bit soft-headed about his
    therapy of choice and has let personal bias blind him. Oh, well, at least he
    isn't doing surgery!

    Quoted message said:


    Mainly, though, this settlement in no way stops a person's right to use
    chelation therapy if they so chose, nor does it limit his right to administer
    it.

    Well, it would never limit him from doing chelation for heavy metals, where
    appropriate. It seems to let him do it for some other things, but I am unclear
    if he can continue doing it for CAD.

    Quoted message said:

    Ridiculous that it took all this time and money to come to an agreement.

    Well, its not so ridiculous when you consider the man's record keeping and
    billing practices.

    Quoted message said:


    Not sure how the attorney fees in all this will come out. That will still be
    left up to the courts.

    Its probably going to cost Kadile some money.

    Quoted message said:


    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    If he would have stayed within the bounds and keeped better records, he
    wouldn't have ended up in court. In fact, if he kept better records and
    ordered heavy-metal profiles to back-up diagnoses, he probably would have
    avoided this.

    Make no mistake, the prosecutors are not the ones who were betraying the public
    trust. It is not for them to lower standards to Kadile's level, its for him to
    get his ethics, record keeping, and standard of practice up to code.

    Quoted message said:


    And now they may have to contend with all sorts of protective legislation in
    Wisconsin coming out of this------, something of a backfire reaction.

    Quoted message said:


    BL

    Chelation is a good thing, properly used. It is not effective a large number
    of cases Kadile used it on. Would it have made anyone happier if he were using
    something like a synchrometer or a rife machine?

  10. Quoted message said:

    Chelation is a good thing, properly used. It is not effective a large number
    of cases Kadile used it on. Would it have made anyone happier if he were
    using
    something like a synchrometer or a rife machine?

    There are a lot of doctors that don't have good record keeping. I don't
    approve of it however. Some just aren't well organized and need someone to
    follow them around to make sure everything is done properly.

    I have a theory that chelation works for heart stuff in some people because
    they actually have a subclinical (or undiagnosed) hemochromatosis. Now,
    actually Ironman would probably agree with me here. I happen to agree with him
    that it is way underdiagnosed. It is just that I am not batty on the subject.

    So, you can probably get more than a few cases of people dramatically
    responding to it. Still, better to try to get a specific diagnosis first.

    He would not be my choice of doctors, but keep in mind there were no patient
    complaints. That really sticks in my craw. I just hate targeted prosecutions.

    Naturally, if someone wants to use Rife machines or anything else, I think that
    is fine too. I don't mind patients and doctors having to sign disclosures
    though. All cases like this should be handled in this manner.

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of
    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  11. (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The "prosecutors" offered to settle. Kadile refused.

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  12. Quoted message said:
    (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The "prosecutors" offered to settle. Kadile refused.

    --
    Peter Bowditch

    This is one of the reasons I accuse BL of assuming that the Pro-Alts are of
    purer motive. Here Kadile offers substandard care, the Board gets involved,
    and they offer him a deal. By "deal", I mean a plan for him to get into
    compliance & keep his license. If they had sinister motives, they wouldn't
    have made such a generous offer.

    Once again, this is a matter of getting a sub-standard doctor up to par, not
    anything to do with stifling anyone's freedoms.

  13. Quoted message said:

    The "prosecutors" offered to settle. Kadile refused.

    Oh, but the devil is in the details. Unfortunately there will be more drama as
    I am sure the legal fees will now be an issue.

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of
    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  14. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Not sure how the attorney fees in all this will come out. That will


    still be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    left up to the courts.

    Its probably going to cost Kadile some money.

    He may end up paying for Dr. Baratz's expert testimony!
    Wouldn't that be ironic?

  15. Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Not sure how the attorney fees in all this will come out. That will


    still be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    left up to the courts.

    Its probably going to cost Kadile some money.

    He may end up paying for Dr. Baratz's expert testimony!
    Wouldn't that be ironic?

    Hopefully, he took notes so that he can learn from Dr Baratz. It might keep
    Kadile out of future legal trouble.

  16. "BL 1204" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good grief. The guy didn't lose his license, and can keep doing chelation
    therapy. Obviously this is the settlement agreement that Tim alluded to.

    It is a faint slap on the wrist-- that misses, really.

    But best for all concerned, IMHO.

    Disagree. It is a license to sell bogus treatments.

    Time to load up a few klein bottles with some snakeoil and hit the trail.

    Quoted message said:


    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  17. Nana Weedkiller said:


    Eleazar M. Kadile, MD, is REPRIMANDED for his violations of § Med
    10.02(2)(o) and (w), Wis. Adm. Code, in this matter.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the license to practice medicine and surgery
    of respondent is LIMITED as provided in §448.02(3)(e), Wis. Stats., and as
    follows:

    In other words ... he is ordered to do things that almost all
    doctors do as a matter of course. None of the following is at
    all out of line, just SOP.

    Quoted message said:

    2.. Respondent shall not engage or participate in any research on human
    subjects without the specific consent of the Board, which consent shall not
    be unreasonably withheld.

    Quoted message said:

    3.. Respondent shall not prescribe, dispense, or administer any
    prescription drug which is not FDA approved, or legally compounded using
    only ingredients which can be legally obtained for the purpose of medical
    treatment.

    Quoted message said:

    5.. All testing shall be performed by a CLIA regulated laboratory which
    is authorized to do the test performed.

    Quoted message said:

    6.. Respondent shall make no statement concerning a patient's condition,
    orally or in writing, to any third party payor or a patient (or patient's
    caregiver) which is not clearly supportable by the patient's health care
    record. Respondent shall not make any statement to a third party payor or a
    patient (or patient's caregiver) that a patient has abnormal levels of any
    substance without enclosing the laboratory report which supports that
    statement.

    Quoted message said:

    7.. Respondent shall not use any advertising which is false, misleading,
    or deceptive, including but not limited to the conduct described in pars.
    2-4, of the Findings of Fact, above.

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    --
    When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like
    politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
    your kid and run for your life.

  18. (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The objective was to save future PATIENTS a lot of grief, not
    Kadile.

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    --
    When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like
    politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
    your kid and run for your life.

  19. (BL 1204) said:

    I have a theory that chelation works for heart stuff in some people because
    they actually have a subclinical (or undiagnosed) hemochromatosis.

    Unfortunately for your theoyr, the chelating agent used for iron
    overload is NOT the agent used by Kadile or other quacks. they
    use the commonly available and cheap EDTA.

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    --
    When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like
    politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
    your kid and run for your life.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tsu Dho Nimh said:
    (BL 1204) said:

    I have a theory that chelation works for heart stuff in some people because
    they actually have a subclinical (or undiagnosed) hemochromatosis.

    Unfortunately for your theoyr, the chelating agent used for iron
    overload is NOT the agent used by Kadile or other quacks. they
    use the commonly available and cheap EDTA.

    Bigger profit margin for the quack that way.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

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