just broke another frame...

Ric said:

I just broke the frame on my aluminium MTB. The top tube has snapped all around the the weld with
the headstock. Is it worth getting this welded back together?

No,it'll just make it weaker at that point, if its possible to weld at all. Depending on make and
age, a lot of manufacturers offer a good warranty on frames, maybe ring the makers to find out?

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I broke my titanium framed road bike about a month ago and it is still not back from warranty
repair so not too happy.

What are you doing to bend frames? I've raced off road for over 5 years now, and can only recall
seeing around 5 broken frames in all that time. Alan.
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Ric said:

I just broke the frame on my aluminium MTB. The top tube has snapped all around the the weld with
the headstock. Is it worth getting this welded back together?

Two questions:

What make? If it's a reputable make there may be some chance of getting a new frame under warranty,
or at least at a very substantial discount.

What are you doing to break frames? I mean, it's possible that you're just unlucky, but frames are
on the whole pretty hard to break. Possibly you need to consider changes to your riding style?

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"Ric" <[email hidden]> writes:

Possibly you need to consider changes to your riding style?

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Or lose a whole load of lard.

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"Ric" <[email hidden]> writes:

Possibly you need to consider changes to your riding style?

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Or lose a whole load of lard.

Well that's a bit of a nasty assumption - I'm actually perfect weight for my height
according to BMA.

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?

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Two questions:

What make? If it's a reputable make there may be some chance of getting a new frame under
warranty, or at least at a very substantial discount.

Mercedes bike (don't laugh - terrible mistake buying it). I suspect you are right that they will
replace it or fix it if I complain enough. But it will be a lot of stress and hassle arguing with
them and even if they agree to fix it it will be a minimum of six-eight weeks away (it has already
had two warranty repairs). It would be a whole lot less stress-free just to get it welded back
together if there was a chance of it being strong enough.

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What are you doing to break frames? I mean, it's possible that you're just unlucky, but frames are
on the whole pretty hard to break. Possibly you need to consider changes to your riding style?

I think it may be because of my height. I'm 1.95m which is not particularly tall by modern standards
but nevertheless it is hard to buy off the peg bikes that are really big enough for me so I have to
have a long seat post on all my bikes. I think the long seat post on my Mercedes bike put to big a
leverage on the tube at the headstock. Even my titanium frame bike needed a long seat post even
though it was made to measure, because the builder said that otherwise the flex in the frame would
be too difficult to control. That one broke down at the pedal crank. I think an exacerbating factor
is that I live in a very hilly area, and use my bikes to carry shopping etc, so the frames are
having to support larger than normal torque loads.

By the way you seem to have disappeared off uk.rec.sailing - I can understand why!

Ric said:

I just broke the frame on my aluminium MTB. The top tube has snapped all around the the weld with
the headstock. Is it worth getting this welded back together?

No. Doesn't it have a lifetime warranty?

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I broke my titanium framed road bike about a month ago and it is still not back from warranty
repair so not too happy.

Do you jump a lot?

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bikes that are really big enough for me so I have to have a long seat post on all my bikes. I
think the long seat post on my Mercedes bike put to big

a

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leverage on the tube at the headstock. Even my titanium frame bike needed

a

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long seat post even though it was made to measure, because the builder

said

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that otherwise the flex in the frame would be too difficult to control.

That

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one broke down at the pedal crank. I think an exacerbating factor is that

I

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live in a very hilly area, and use my bikes to carry shopping etc, so the frames are having to
support larger than normal torque loads.

Aha. So maybe your next bike should be a custom steel-framed tourer. Could save money in the long
run....;-).

Rich

Ric said:

I think it may be because of my height. I'm 1.95m which is not particularly tall by modern
standards but nevertheless it is hard to buy off the peg bikes that are really big enough for me
so I have to have a long seat post on all my bikes. I think the long seat post on my Mercedes bike
put to big a leverage on the tube at the headstock.

Pretty unlikely. I think it was just a duff frame.

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Aha. So maybe your next bike should be a custom steel-framed tourer.

Could

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save money in the long run....;-).

Yes I already have one - a big black German one. I'd be really unhappy and amazed if I managed to
break that!

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Do you jump a lot?

Normally only when I accidentally electrocute myself.

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Do you jump a lot?

Normally only when I accidentally electrocute myself.

:-)

I knew a bloke who jumped *a lot* on his (rigid) Cannondale. He broke 3 bottom brackets a year but
the frame was OK.

Ric said:

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I think it may be because of my height. I'm 1.95m which is not particularly tall by modern
standards but nevertheless it is hard to buy off the peg bikes that are really big enough for me
so I have to have a long seat post on all my bikes.

I'm about 5cm taller than you and have a 22" Santa Cruz Heckler I've been riding now for almost 7
years without any problems and without a long seatpost sticking out because the frame is big enough.
Much better bike than a Mercedes as well so I'd recommend looking at one.

I don't generally find the problem you have. You need to look around because not all bikes are
available in the right size but I've bought all my bikes off the peg bar one and had frames that
were big enough

Tony

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"Ric" <[email hidden]> writes:

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Two questions:

What make? If it's a reputable make there may be some chance of getting a new frame under
warranty, or at least at a very substantial discount.

Mercedes bike (don't laugh - terrible mistake buying it). I suspect you are right that they will
replace it or fix it if I complain enough. But it will be a lot of stress and hassle arguing with
them and even if they agree to fix it it will be a minimum of six-eight weeks away (it has already
had two warranty repairs). It would be a whole lot less stress-free just to get it welded back
together if there was a chance of it being strong enough.

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What are you doing to break frames? I mean, it's possible that you're just unlucky, but frames
are on the whole pretty hard to break. Possibly you need to consider changes to your riding
style?

I think it may be because of my height. I'm 1.95m which is not particularly tall by modern
standards but nevertheless it is hard to buy off the peg bikes that are really big enough for me
so I have to have a long seat post on all my bikes.

I'm one metre ninety, and folk around here laugh at me because my bikes are so huge, but they're all
standard off the peg models - I gave up on custom frames after having two stolen. My road bike has a
25.5" (65cm) frame, so not much exposed seatpost on that, and my hill bike is a Cannondale
'large' Jekyll, which is a 19" (48cm) frame - they make an 'extra large' as well, but I doubt
I'd have enough standover clearance on that. So you oughtn't to have two much trouble getting
a bike to fit.

Modern sloping tob tube frames are designed in the expectation that peopel will have a lot of
exposed seatpost - if they aren't built to take the stresses involved that's a design fault, and
they jolly well ought to fix it.

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By the way you seem to have disappeared off uk.rec.sailing - I can understand why!

Well, the inmate (singular) was taking over the assylum - I couldn't be bothered. The trolls here
are at least more intelligent and less successful.

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