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Just bought a cycling trainer. Sweating!!!

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  1. I just bought a cycling trainer. Figured I better throw in the investment because I keep missing too many days out of the saddle due to work, school, and other stuff. This way I can just lock in and pedal at home.

    So I tried it for the first time today on the back yard patio. It's 9:30 in the AM and the weather is great in southern CA. I want badly to go on a group ride, but two things prevent me.

    One: I'm on call at the hospital and may need to stop, clean up, and head in within a reasonable amount of time.

    Second: I have a race tomorrow at noon so today needs to be more of a moderate ride.

    So the trainer seems perfectly suited to this situation.

    Getting on and riding was not difficult at all. I got a plastic tire block for the front wheel, so the bike was mostly level. I can't really follow my speed since my computer is connected to my front wheel which isn't turning. I also failed to strap on the heart monitor. The gears actually feel lighter on the trainer than on the road. Anyhow, I got into a pace that feels like my standard 18-19 mph speed with a HR close to 155 (all estimated by feel from previous riding)

    Within 5 minutes, I am dripping sweat. 10 minutes and the water is just rolling off me and making puddles. I never realized how much fluid gets wicked away while riding. I keep going for 30 minutes (thank god I had the iPod playing in my ears). I threw in a couple hard, 20 second intervals. Another thing, I spent close to half the time sitting upright in the saddle rather than with my hands on the bars or the drops. I did this for two reasons, one, the front still feels like it;s dipping a little low, and second, the sweat is more manageable from the upright position.

    After 30 minutes, I just had to get off. I un-mounted the bike from the trainer and took a quick 5 minute spin around the block. And it's cold initially... and I feel really naked without my helmet on.

    So having shared, what are my noob mistakes and what should I plan for next time I use the trainer? I'll definitely be taking it with me tomorrow to warm up before the crit.

    Oh yeah, and this is what I bought:
    Travel Trac Fluid Trainer
    http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1077305_-1_1532501_20000_400133

  2. When I use my trainer or roller I always set a fan in front of me. This will help with the sweat.

  3. You definitely need an electric fan blowing on you while you ride on a trainer.....

  4. As above, you need a fan.

    My first time on a trainer, 3 minutes into it felt like 20 minutes. It seemed as though time came to a standstill. It's easier now, but compared to actually riding outside, it still sucks. To make it suck less, I watch TV, under a ceiling fan, with my drink and a remote on a nearby table.

  5. My trainer is in my basement and I only ride it in the winter.

    I live in Canada, and winters are cold here. My basement is quite cool in the winter, but to make it even cooler I shut the upstairs door and then open the side door to my driveway so the winter air can enter my house.

    And like all the others have said, I have a big fan directly in front of me. I have trouble watching tv though unless I'm taking it fairly easy. If it's an L4 interval the best I can manage is to listen to my ipod - ACDC works great for intervals.

    Good luck to you. You're going to find it so boring after awhile that you'll hardly be able to look at it.

  6. As you've discovered, riding a stationary trainer literally sucks your soul right out of you. Every minute on a trainer, is another step toward becoming a diehard fan of The View. Lucky you for you there have been a few technological innovations to ease your pain.

    Since they were invented in the late 1500's, electric fans have been a go-to item for every cyclist condemned to a trainer. One is good, but two is better.

    Television can be a big help. First, it'll get you quickly brought up to speed with all the things happening on The View. Second, certain DVD's can make the life rotting experience more tolerable: bike races, action flicks, [censored]. You might even want to look into training specific DVD's.

    Illegal use of narcotics can also help.

  7. Fan for me when I use trainer.
    HR monitor too, why? because you tend to get hotter on a stationary bike and that also increases your HR.
    A training video i have recommends raising the front wheel so as it is higher not level.
    You can then raise your wheel, put on heavy resistance and do climbing training.
    I use a training video. A training video breaks up the training as in breaks up the monotony of just spinning at one speed.
    Getting ready for a race...spin easy to keep the legs fresh

  8. I'm still at a loss. Why the fans?.

  9. Take a guess!!

  10. NJK said:

    Take a guess!!

    Wow!. Very helpful NJK. Thanks.

    Having hot air blown into your face, there certainly not going to eliminate the sweating, especially in the Californian sun, thats for sure.

    And if your gonna shower commencing your workout anyway, can't see the deal.

    Let me think?. 😕

    Just listen to some good, heavy music, not that Céline Dion muck which Swamps listens to.

  11. Chapeau! said:

    Having hot air blown into your face, there certainly not going to eliminate the sweating, especially in the Californian sun, thats for sure.

    And if your gonna shower commencing your workout anyway, can't see the deal.

    Let me think?. 😕


    Convection:
    Convection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Dave

  12. We sweat so that the evaporation of our sweat cools us off, right? Blowing more air over our bodies will help that process take place.

  13. Chapeau! said:

    I'm still at a loss. Why the fans?.


    For every watt we put to the cranks/wheel, our bodies are knocking out about 4 watts of "waste" heat. Ride at 250W and you are effectively a 1000W heater. The more powerful you are, or the higher the power you attempt to sustain, the more heat you produce.

    Out on the road at a fairly steady ride we have a breeze of 30km/h over our whole body helping to keep us cool, even on warm days. Sweat is evaporated quickly and is quite effective at cooling us.

    If you have inadequate air flow to aid in removing this excess heat via sweat evaporation, you core temperature will go up and ultimately you will lose the ability to sustain power.

    I know from my indoor work that my sustainable power over 20-min goes down about 20W if I don't get adequate cooling.

  14. alienator said:

    Second, certain DVD's can make the life rotting experience more tolerable: bike races, action flicks, [censored].

    Some things just shouldn't become a full body workout.

  15. Well said Alex. And all true. Recall that your internal core temperature is about 98.6 degrees F. If the temperature is the same or warmer, then the only means you have for cooling your body temp down is evaporation. Convection is the transfer of heat as heated air surrounding your skin is blown off and replaced with cooler air. I can not truly convey how significant the difference is in mere words.

    In essence, sweat is wicked away while you ride. That combined with evaporation keep your core temperature down. When you cycle in place, you are generating large quantities of heat from your muscle activity. And it just drips down... a lot.

  16. Deafwolf said:

    In essence, sweat is wicked away while you ride. That combined with evaporation keep your core temperature down. When you cycle in place, you are generating large quantities of heat from your muscle activity. And it just drips down... a lot.

    Technically that's not true. Wicking involves capillary action or some action to actually move a fluid. This is exactly what a cycling jersey should do: wick sweat from your body and spread it over a wider surface area. Evaporation is the result of differences in vapor pressure. When it's humid, i.e. when water's vapor pressure in the atmosphere is higher, you notice sweat more. When vapor pressure is low, as it is, here in the desert outside of the monsoon season, you may not notice any sweat at all. When on a stationary trainer, without a fan, vapor pressure becomes relatively high around you. Using the fan lowers the vapor pressure by improving mixing and by the decreased pressure created by the movement of air.

  17. I only use my trainer in the deepest darkest hours of the winter when it is impossible to ride on the roads. I keep it set up in my basement which is around 50 degrees. I always use a fan. It adds a level of comfort.

  18. Cycling Training Programs & Coaching Online

  19. Konaguy said:

    Cycling Training Programs & Coaching Online

    Well, that's got nothing to do with the thread.

  20. Friend of mine is going to give me a wind trainer. This thread has been extremely helpful - use of fan and training/riding regime (to relieve boredom) are really useful tips. Just found a site that gives heaps of different programmes. Not so sure about the [censored] though!!!!!!!:eek:

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