Judging cyclists by their appearance

Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred.

Claire gets "Fred."

CLOTHING
Old, rotting helmet (Fred)
Torn, ragged, threadbare t-shirt. (Fred)
Khaki shorts (Fred)
White cotton socks (Fred)
Shoes: black Adidas Sambas (Fred)
Sunglasses (poseur)
-prescription (Fred)

BICYCLE
Drop bars (poseur x 20)
- steel (Fred)
Brifters as opposed to, say, bar-end shifters (poseur)
Shimano Sora components (fred)
- not Dura Ace (Fred)
- not Campy (Fred)
Rack (Fred)
Cheap blinky attached with rattling bracket (Fred)
Full fenders (Fred)
Bar bag (Fred)
Non-stock pedals (poseur)
-Toe clips & straps (Fred)
-nylon straps (Fred)
Heavy, utterly overbuilt lock (Fred)
Zefal HPx frame pump (poseur)

OTHER

Moving ~10mph (Fred. I know, liquorbike speed, right?)

FAT [censored] PENALTY: +5 poseur for weighing >200 lbs. and riding drops.

-Luigi

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Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride

Well, I just rode home from work in light rain, so add "wet" to every
item in this list.

Bike: Giant OCR3, front derailleur removed, saddle starting to crack

Clothing: Microfibre trakkies, thermal t-shirt, windcheater, light
winter gloves, old sandshoes

But I had the poseur bike and gear out for the Mt Lofty ride last night.
Are you still a poseur if you ride up mountains? :-)

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Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride,

Clothes:
cargo pants with heavily loaded side pockets
buttons-down-the-front shirt
white sport socks
Shimano SPD sandals
backpack stuffed with laptop, notebooks, and textbooks
reflective velcro pant leg retainers

Bike:
15ish-year-old CCM[1] steel mountain bike frame (pre-dates shock absorbers)
Original equipment: front derailler
left pedal crank arm
seat and seat post
bar ends
straight handlebars
rapid-fire shifters
combo pedals (SPD on one side, flat on the other)
hockey tape on bar ends
semi-slick tires (inflated for road riding)
GPS mounted on handlebars
under-seat bag with LED taillight mounted on it (not turned on, and
handlebar-mountable LED headlight inside, since it was during the day)
cable lock (cost more than I paid for the bike (used bike $50, lock
$49.95+tax), but less than the parts I replaced before considering
it roadworthy)

dave

[1] Canadian Tire store brand. The name appears on some of the better
big-store bikes you can buy (not that that's all that impressive)
but also on some real junk.

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Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride

Wearing:
100% cotton slacks
100% cotton Tshirt
brown leather hiking shoes
helmet with rear-view mirror and PlanetBike blinkie
crochet bike gloves
backpack with laptop
[censored] pack with personal stuff

Riding:
old steel-frame hybrid (Trek 730, bought used)
no fenders (they're at home)
rear rack held together with hose clamps
two Cateye blinkies/reflectors
Cateye LED headlight
trunk bag with bike stuff (pump, patches, tools, poncho, lock,...)

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Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred. I will go first, with guesses as to where I'd be sorted.

CLOTHING
Cheap DuoFold t-shirt from Capmor (?)
North Face cargo shorts (Fred)
Performance house-brand bike gloves (Fred)
Champion cotton/poly blnd socks from Costco (Fred)
Speedo water shoes (Masochist Fred)
10-year old Gary fisher mountain bike helmet with mirror (Fred)

BICYCLE
Trek 1000 (Low-rent poseur)
With Freddy Fenders (Fred)
And a front rack (Fred)
And a rear rack (Fred)
Topeak RoadMorph frame mini-pump (Poseur)
Topeak Survival Wedge (?)
Garmin eTrex Legend GPS unit (Poseur)
Reflective tape on fenders, stays and front fork (Fred)

9 Fred, 3 poseur, 2 unknown. Not surprised.

My initmidating Germany jersey from Performance may need to come out to
regain some of my diginity.

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Claire said:

OK, so the recent thread about judging cyclists lead me to wonder if
we can determine anything about the members of this newsgroup by what
they're wearing and what they're riding.

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred. I will go first, with guesses as to where I'd be sorted.

Bike:
'76 Raleigh ladies frame Sprite:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/254286233_35f40ec18d_o.jpg

Clothes:
Ocean Pacific shorts
Glenn Miller concert T-shirt
Tractor Supply Company cap
green flip flops

Totally Fred, man!

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Claire said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride,

Clothes:
cargo pants with heavily loaded side pockets
buttons-down-the-front shirt
white sport socks
Shimano SPD sandals
backpack stuffed with laptop, notebooks, and textbooks
reflective velcro pant leg retainers

Bike:
15ish-year-old CCM[1] steel mountain bike frame (pre-dates shock
absorbers)
Original equipment: front derailler
left pedal crank arm
seat and seat post
bar ends
straight handlebars
rapid-fire shifters
combo pedals (SPD on one side, flat on the other)
hockey tape on bar ends
semi-slick tires (inflated for road riding)
GPS mounted on handlebars
under-seat bag with LED taillight mounted on it (not turned on, and
handlebar-mountable LED headlight inside, since it was during the day)
cable lock (cost more than I paid for the bike (used bike $50, lock
$49.95+tax), but less than the parts I replaced before considering
it roadworthy)

This sounds like a list of Fredliness. What's your tire width and spoke
count?

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"Kristian M Zoerhoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Topeak RoadMorph frame mini-pump (Poseur)

If this was attached to the frame with zip-ties, you get double Fred points.

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Claire Petersky said:

"Kristian M Zoerhoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Topeak RoadMorph frame mini-pump (Poseur)

If this was attached to the frame with zip-ties, you get double Fred points.

No, this uses the clip. The zip tie (just one) is for holding the Freddy
Fender bracket for the rear fender to the seat tube. Good enough for one
Fred credit?

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(_)/ (_)

Rate these guys:
http://bikewinter.org/events/rampage/2004/santa-bye-big.jpg

CLOTHING
Exclusive kit (poseur)
Uniform from a club you don't belong to (poseur)
Impersonating somebody you are not (definition of a poseur)
Riding together in an organized manner (poseur)
Thumbing their nose at the police (poseur)

BICYCLE AND ACCESSORIES
fenders (Fred)
bells (Fred)
winter junkers (Fred)
bullhorn (Fred)
carrying helmet on handlebars (Fred)
riding on urban streets (Fred)

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:56 -0700, Claire <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Claire, you'd be a Fred-ly type that would leave me scratching my
helmet. Fred with nice custom bike? Even if it's a commuter bike
with fenders, it's still custom!

OK, me:
CLOTHING
Helmet with visor, on a road bike (Fred, but it did keep the rain
off...)
Glasses, prescription bifocals (Fred)
Bandanna rolled up as sweat band (Fred)
House-brand cycling jersey (Fred with delusions of poser)
Expensive, brand-name bike shorts (poser)
Generic, cotton athletic socks (Fred)
Cycling specific shoes (poser)
- old, suede commuter shoes (poser)

BICYCLE
Cheap touring frame (Fred)
- steel (Fred)
- mis-matched replacement frame with original, non-matching color fork
(Fred)
Brifters (poser)
-Campy (poser)
-One Daytona, one Centaur (different names, same group -- is this
Fredly?)
Rack (Fred)
-cheap OEM rack (Fred)
B17 leather saddle (Fred)
Inexpensive blinky butt on seatpost (Fred)
One expensive, name brand pannier (poser/2)
Rear fender (Fred; haven't gotten around to putting the front one on
the new frame)
Road morph pump (poser)

This list puts me solidly in the Fred camp, I guess. Funny, but I
usually feel more like a poser commuting on this bike, just because I
have a rack and one or two panniers, instead of a backpack, and smooth
tires; both of these are unlike 80% of the bikes I pass on most
commutes.

Pat

Email address works as is.

What, no *commuter* classification?

(appropriate name? "Slogger" perhaps?)

Dudes, Freds, or Poseurs...we all in this together, peeps.

B.

Who rides an elegant and much-customised hybrid roadie and dresses depending
on the weather that morning.

Oh, and the certain sign of the cycle commuter: a pack that could be
accurately described as "an apartment with straps".

Claire said:

OK, so the recent thread about judging cyclists lead me to wonder if
we can determine anything about the members of this newsgroup by what
they're wearing and what they're riding.

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred.

I have an occasional cycling buddy named Fred...

But honestly, I've never taken the time to try and figure out
what kind of first impression I make on the other cyclists whom
I see on the road. Does that make me a sort of de-facto Fred?

--
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/

Claire said:

OK, so the recent thread about judging cyclists lead me to wonder if
we can determine anything about the members of this newsgroup by what
they're wearing and what they're riding.

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred. I will go first, with guesses as to where I'd be sorted.

Wearing:
- Cotton shorts
- Loose-fitting jersey with permanent chain lube stain
- Vest (morning only)
- Regular white gym socks
- Helmet with LED blinky on the back, left over from winter
- Cycling shoes
- Mountain bike style, usually with residual dirt

Riding:
- Bike weighing just over 10% of my weight
- Still not *that* light
- Festooned with at least another 5 pounds of gear
- Drop bars
- With cyclocross levers
- Brifters
- Tiagra
- Triple crank
- With aftermarket 26t granny
- Cassette's not exactly a corncob either
- Clipless pedals
- Mountain bike type
- Fenders
- Rack
- Trunk bag
- Permanently mounted tail light
- Mount handcrafted from spare rack brackets, shims, and glue

I'm pretty sure I know which column that puts me in. In winter,
substitute a rigid steel mountain bike with studded tires, two
headlights, and a rear blinky held on by velcro, zip ties, and luck.

On 2007-06-29, Steve Gravrock <[email hidden]> wrote:

[snip list]

I forgot the Road Morph pump, held on by two non-matching zip ties. Do
I still get double fred points if one of the zip ties came with the
pump?

The bike also has a sloping top tube, which probably gives me unlimited
fred points from the perspective of some.

Claire said:

OK, so the recent thread about judging cyclists lead me to wonder if
we can determine anything about the members of this newsgroup by what
they're wearing and what they're riding.

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride, and if you think it makes you a poser or a
Fred. I will go first, with guesses as to where I'd be sorted.

CLOTHING
Reflective stickers festooned on helmet (Fred)
Bandana as snot rag (Fred)
Old, grease-speckled t-shirt (Fred)
- T-shirt was for Bicycle to Work Day so has sponsorship logos on
back (poser)
Expensive, brand-name bike shorts (poser)
- only Pearl Izumi Ultrasensors, not Microsensors (Fred)
- worn and washed so many times, the lycra and elastic are wearing
thing (Fred)
Bicycling specific socks (poser)
- wool, not coordinated to outfit (Fred)
Bicycling specific shoes (poser)
- ancient, scuffed commuter shoes (Fred)

BICYCLE
Expensive custom-made frame (poser)
- steel (Fred)
Brifters as opposed to, say, bar-end shifters (poser)
Shimano Ultegra components (poser)
- not Dura Ace (Fred)
- not Campy (Fred)
Rack (Fred)
- expensive tubus brand (poser)
- german tail light made especially for tubus rack (poser)
- also cheap blinky attached with kludgey rubber band and clamp
(Fred)
Full fenders (Fred)
- color coordinated to go with tubus rack (poser)
- ancient, peeling reflective tape on fenders (Fred)

So, you pass me along the road, what would your judgement be? Fred? Or
Poser?

Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
(no .sig right now, I'm tired)

Last ride I wore not only cycling specific socks, but they had the
matching logo for my bike. And the rest of my clothes were also
festooned with the logo of my bike, and were of course color
coordinated with the bike too. Needless to say my helmet is also color
cordinated. When I go on club rides wearing the club clothes I have a
different helmet that matches the club clothes colors. I ride with my
mini pump in my jersey pocket instead of using the handy water bottle
boss mounted clip it came with. In the winter (when it gets dark) I
ride with my rear light in my pocket and only mount it at the last
minute.

As far as fredliness goes I think posture is much more of a
determinate than gear or clothes. I see folks with all the right gear
who comport themselves in such a fredly manner that it doesn't matter
what gear the have. And I sometimes see folks with fredliest of fredly
gear who somehow belie their fredliness by the effortless grace they
show on the bike.

So far I think I win in the poser department. But I have never seen
myself ride so maybe I'm just a big fred.

Joseph

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Quoted message said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride.

Hmm, last ride...cotton walking shorts and button down blouse, hurrache
sandals, fashion sun glasses riding my Breezer Uptown

http://www.breezerbikes.com/bike_details.cfm?bikeType=town&frame=d&bike=uptown

Yep, the red one. Had large, grocery bag size panniers attached, carrying
takeout sushi home.

Cathy Kearns said:

"Claire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'd like you to describe what you were wearing and what you were
riding, on your last ride.

Hmm, last ride...cotton walking shorts and button down blouse, hurrache
sandals, fashion sun glasses riding my Breezer Uptown

http://www.breezerbikes.com/bike_details.cfm?bikeType=town&frame=d&bike=uptown

Yep, the red one. Had large, grocery bag size panniers attached, carrying
takeout sushi home.

So obviously drivers following you assumed you to be an incompetent
liquorbike cyclist, since you weren't wearing your shiny clothes on the
fast bike, right?

--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com

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One expensive, name brand pannier (poser/2)

Any pannier, even expensive - you're a Fred. Ask Fabs, he'd tell you.

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