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  1. C.M. Burns said:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
    2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

    Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
    Something else, I mean.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
    to further his own political objectives,

    Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
    agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)

    that Bush got us involved in a

    Quoted message said:

    stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
    influence is almost beyond conprehension,

    Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
    lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
    non-committal.

    and that the Republican Party

    Quoted message said:

    no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
    money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
    war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
    rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
    creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
    their pursuit of power.

    Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
    ill- or mis-informed,
    a religious activist.

    It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
    success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
    Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

    Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
    Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".

    Hey, they're doing great with that. Let 'em go ahead. <SHHhhhhhhh>

    Ron

  2. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  3. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  4. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  5. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  6. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  7. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person. Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a
    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

  8. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  9. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  10. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  11. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  12. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  13. gwhite said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Raptor wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
    Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
    exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

    Nice to know. We were on vacation just a couple of weeks ago in the
    national parks in UT/AZ--magnificent.
    We were traveling with my brother-in-law and his family. His wife had
    the temerity to ask a family in Zion not to feed the ravens--that in
    fact it was subject to a fine. His answer was--"I bet you belong to
    that See-ayra club. Wait--where are you from? My family is taking bets
    on where you come from?" They were trying to sneak peeks at the license
    plates on our rental car, (which had NV plates).
    I certainly wasn't inclined to let my lefty views show after that.

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    Steve

    Voting for either of those candidates is pretty much a

    Quoted message said:

    disqualification. The sheeple love, and are loyal to, their
    demopublican candidates.

    "It was always the pigs who put forward the resolutions. The other
    animals understood how to vote, but could never think of any resolutions
    of their own." -- Orwell

    Demopublican voters know how to vote; they have nary a thought of their
    own in their head when doing so. Snowball "educated" the sheeple, so
    they didn't really need to think. Why do something for yourself,
    including thinking, when the government (and politicians) can do it for
    you for free?

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  14. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  15. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  16. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  17. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  18. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  19. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

  20. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    gwhite wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Voting for Kerry rather than Bush hardly qualifies one as an intelligent
    person.

    I couldn't agree more. I never said whom I voted for. ;-)

    I scarcely escaped voting for either of those two dipshits.

    I was doing the "least bad of who can win" type of thinking. But I
    finally cured myself and did the right thing.

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