Quoted message said:Bob said:
If you consistently see the same joggers on the same route, why not
simply stop your bike in the lane and greet them the next time you see
one of them approaching and inform them politely that it is a *bike*
lane and they should yield? Doing that without appearing to be
confrontational may be easier said than done- a smile and a wave helps-
but if you don't inform them, who will? Most of the dumb things people
do they do simply because they don't know any better.
??? WTF ???
If you consistently see the same joggers on the same route, why not
assume that they suffer from the same problems that you do, and share
the lane happily with them? I find their assinine behavior annoying,
too, smiling contentedly while running straight towards me forcing me
to swerve around them. [censored]. BUT, there are two separate topics
here, and, typical bad attitude notwithstanding, they have as much
right to use the shoulder as do I, no matter what the official name of
said lane. To be fair some are polite like normal people.
These people are obviously neither dumb nor ignorant, they are simply
reacting to the same problem cyclists have on sidewalks and paths:
slower moving traffic and cars turning into driveways. I cannot get a
good workout on a bikepath let alone a sidewalk. A jogger undoubtedly
has the same problem. Why claim they have no right to the shoulder
just because it has been renamed 'bike lane' to appear politaclly
correct? Cmon people fer chrissakes. And where would you feel safer?
how about after the tenth time in one morning that you almost got ran
over by someone backing out of their driveway? I bet the bike lane is
the most intelligent choice for morning joggers
dkl
Your argument seems to be that since the bike lane (please note that we
are talking about a legally designated bike lane and not a MUP, the
shoulder of a road, or anything else) is convenient to joggers, they
should be allowed to use it for something other than its legally
permitted use even though their *non-permitted* use inconveniences and
endangers those cyclists that are using it for its *permitted* when
they are forced to either stop or swerve to avoid hitting them.
When I drive downtown and need a parking place I always see plenty of
very convenient spots. They are called bus stops. Heck, I should just
park there. It isn't as if the buses need all that room. I mean, so
what if the rear of the bus might extend out into the traffic lane a
little? It isn't as if it will cause any kind of problem. Everybody
else can put up with a little inconvenience and the occasional fender
bender so *I* get a convenient parking spot. Besides, that "no parking"
sign at the bus stop is just another form of political correctness,
pandering to the holier than thou people that use public transit,
right?
That after reading all the reasons it's a bad idea, you apparently
still feel it's okay for people to disregard the law and common sense
because you think "the bike lane is the most intelligent choice for
morning joggers" is a good example of why I wrote that *most* of the
dumb things people do they do simply because they don't know any
better. Some of the dumb things people do they do just because they
aren't bright enough to figure out the obvious.
Regards,
Bob Hunt
BTW- It is possible to get a good workout on a sidewalk. Try walking
faster.
