Joe Magnani Article

"B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all
probability the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Agreed. When men were really men.
He even lived in my region for awhile.
I wonder if he assembled my first Paramount road and track bikes?
Ken Burns could bring this guy, and Major Taylor, to life.

That's a really good piece. Thanks.
Bill C

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VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all
probability the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Agreed. When men were really men.
He even lived in my region for awhile.
I wonder if he assembled my first Paramount road and track bikes?
Ken Burns could bring this guy, and Major Taylor, to life.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Burns did a film about US Six Day Racing?

RLBeldon said:

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VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all
probability the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Agreed. When men were really men.
He even lived in my region for awhile.
I wonder if he assembled my first Paramount road and track bikes?
Ken Burns could bring this guy, and Major Taylor, to life.

"The good old days weren't always that good..."

Magilla Joel

B Lafferty said:

VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all probability the
pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Look closely at his chain in the second picture. Is he standing on the
lower portion of the slack chain or is he using some sort of giant ring?

Dave

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B Lafferty said:

VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all probability
the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Look closely at his chain in the second picture. Is he standing on the
lower portion of the slack chain or is he using some sort of giant ring?

Dave

No. It's most likely a Super Champion Tour de France derailleur set up.
They were made from 1938-50. There's a famous photo of Coppi and Bartali
(it's on the cover of Berto's book The Dancing Chain) with Bartali using the
old rig and Coppi using a modern derailleur set up--Campy I think.

B Lafferty said:

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B Lafferty said:

VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all probability
the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html

Look closely at his chain in the second picture. Is he standing on the
lower portion of the slack chain or is he using some sort of giant ring?

Dave

No. It's most likely a Super Champion Tour de France derailleur set up.
They were made from 1938-50. There's a famous photo of Coppi and Bartali
(it's on the cover of Berto's book The Dancing Chain) with Bartali using the
old rig and Coppi using a modern derailleur set up--Campy I think.

Fascinating! First, this proves that BL DOES post about non-drug
related items on occaision. Second, take a look at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

for a close up of this rig. No rear der, no little chain ring, just a
very long throw front der to shift the rear cassette. Must have been a
bear to shift.

Dave

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No. It's most likely a Super Champion Tour de France derailleur set up.
They were made from 1938-50. There's a famous photo of Coppi and

Bartali

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(it's on the cover of Berto's book The Dancing Chain) with Bartali using

the

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old rig and Coppi using a modern derailleur set up--Campy I think.

Fascinating! First, this proves that BL DOES post about non-drug
related items on occaision. Second, take a look at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

for a close up of this rig. No rear der, no little chain ring, just a
very long throw front der to shift the rear cassette. Must have been a
bear to shift.

Very, very nice page. Thanks to Brian for his comments and for causing you
to post the link!

Nobody said:

Fascinating! First, this proves that BL DOES post about non-drug
related items on occaision. Second, take a look at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

for a close up of this rig. No rear der, no little chain ring, just a
very long throw front der to shift the rear cassette. Must have been a
bear to shift.

There's a photo of Bartali using a rod shifter at :
http://www.campyonly.com/history.html

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B Lafferty wrote:

>VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all probability
>the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
>http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html
>
>
>

Look closely at his chain in the second picture. Is he standing on the
lower portion of the slack chain or is he using some sort of giant ring?

Dave

No. It's most likely a Super Champion Tour de France derailleur set up.
They were made from 1938-50. There's a famous photo of Coppi and Bartali
(it's on the cover of Berto's book The Dancing Chain) with Bartali using
the old rig and Coppi using a modern derailleur set up--Campy I think.

Fascinating! First, this proves that BL DOES post about non-drug related
items on occaision. Second, take a look at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

for a close up of this rig. No rear der, no little chain ring, just a
very long throw front der to shift the rear cassette. Must have been a
bear to shift.

Dave

What I find amazing are the rear mechanisms from the 1930s (I think--I'll
check after the family is awake and I can get to the books) which required
the rider to loosen the rear wheel via a cam on the rear stay and thus move
the rear wheel in its dropout to effect a cog change. Dicey.

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>B Lafferty wrote:
>
>>VeloNews has a nice piece by Peter Nye on Joe who was in all
>>probability the pioneer American road racer in Europe.
>>http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>Look closely at his chain in the second picture. Is he standing on the
>lower portion of the slack chain or is he using some sort of giant ring?
>
>Dave

No. It's most likely a Super Champion Tour de France derailleur set up.
They were made from 1938-50. There's a famous photo of Coppi and
Bartali (it's on the cover of Berto's book The Dancing Chain) with
Bartali using the old rig and Coppi using a modern derailleur set
up--Campy I think.

Fascinating! First, this proves that BL DOES post about non-drug related
items on occaision. Second, take a look at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

for a close up of this rig. No rear der, no little chain ring, just a
very long throw front der to shift the rear cassette. Must have been a
bear to shift.

Dave

What I find amazing are the rear mechanisms from the 1930s (I think--I'll
check after the family is awake and I can get to the books) which required
the rider to loosen the rear wheel via a cam on the rear stay and thus
move the rear wheel in its dropout to effect a cog change. Dicey.

It's the Campy Cambio Corsa which is on the parge link that DM posted. Here
it is again, for convience. http://www.campyonly.com/history.html

Does anyone realize that Lafferty cited an article that didn't even
contain the word "drug"!

That HAS GOT to be a first.

Does anyone realize that Lafferty cited an article that didn't even
contain the word "drug"!

That HAS GOT to be a first.

MagillaGorilla said:

I don't go to the Monkey Bar anymore. I go to the Monkey Hill Strip
Club.

They give boxing lessons at this club or have you taken up mud wrestling ?