Joe King Should ID Himself

It's all a sham
I and a mate have just returned to Australia from the other side of the
world after my trip of a lifetime. I've spent money we don't have, I've left
my loved ones for three long weeks, I've slept in cars and endured 29 hour
long haul flights.

All to finally see my heroes in the flesh.

The alarm sounded at 4am in Grenoble, we got lost in the dark but made it to
Bourg d'Oisans before the roads closed, by 10.30am we'd already walked up
the mighty Alpe for an hour and found our favoured spot. We waited in baking
heat on the side of the road for our heroes to arrive at 5pm. After our
homage we walked back down and spent an uncomfortable night in the car
before repeating the marathon the next day and for several more days before
finally bidding our heroes farewell at Paris.

Before I even make it home I hear the news of the Landis dope test.

I'm devastated. I can believe it no longer. These guys aren't heroes, they
are weak people, drug cheats being manipulated by corruption and lies. Le
Tour is the pinnacle of competitive cycling. Le Tour is a sham, competitive
cycling is a sham.

Cycling can go to hell. No, it's already there...

Andrew
Ballarat, Australia
Monday, July 31, 2006

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Worse than VDB
What a crook!

First his hip story, then his Thyroid story, then one, then two beers, then
4 whiskys? An 'epic ride' as a drunk at the paralympics. Common folks this
guy is worse than VDB.

And utterly ridiculous how our US friends defend him.

Paul Keller
Frankfurt, Germany
Monday, July 31, 2006

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Laughingstock
Dear Fellow Cyclists

Our sport is a laughingstock, a farce that stumbles from one crisis to the
next as a bunch of greedy men scramble around to make as much money as they
can before the house of cards finally collapses. You would have thought that
Operacion Puerto would have had some kind of positive effect, maybe some
real men admitting the truth. Instead we have Landis taking us for 'an epic
ride'.

The riders expelled before the start of the Tour are lying low, waiting for
it all to blow over before resuming their corrupt careers. Why did the
riders who have now been cleared not stand up and protest their innocence?
Silence gentlemen speaks volumes.

I felt sorry for Ullrich when he was kicked off the Tour but now I feel sick
to see him attempting to bluff his way out of the mess. I know he is only
trying to save his career and indeed his reputation, self preservation his
motive, but it will take someone like him to stand up and tell the truth
before this [censored] ever ends.

I don't care if the peloton's average speed drops, if stages are shortened
or less mountains are climbed, at least I would then be able to cheer riders
whose victory was down to their lifetime of dedication and training and not
down to the success of their doctors' methods.

Unless we as cycling fans make some kind of stand this whole mess will only
get messier until there is little left but a pile of rubbish to be swept
away.

Rolf Rae-Hansen
Edinburgh, Scotland
Monday, July 31, 2006

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Hoping Floyd soon shows HIS evidence
I would like to believe in Floyd and his tremendous comeback the same way I
did the day it happened. It was absolutely awe-inspiring. Even if the ride
was "enhanced" it was an incredible effort of will. Now in the aftermath of
the A & B positive test results, including indications of artificial sources
of testosterone, Floyd is certainly a man under fire from all sides. But
part of it he seems to have brought on himself. With a litany of different
excuses/rationalizations for the results - beers, whiskey, cortisone shots
for the bad hip, dehydration, normally high testosterone, actually really
low epitestosterone compared to testosterone - to name only some of the
"reasons" coming from Floyd or his camp of attorneys and spokespeople. Now
on the BBC News Sports Cycling page it seems Floyd is whipping out the
formula Lance used with some legitimacy during his reign of dominance,
"They're out to get me". Floyd is quoted as saying to BBC Radio.

"You'll see that they clearly broke the rules and their excuse was pathetic.
The only explanation I can come up with is that there is some agenda here,"
Landis told Radio Four's Today program. "The public display of humiliation
they've brought upon me, breaking their own rules in the process, and the
excuses they've used, have been unacceptable in the least. I can prove to
you, and will demonstrate to you, that the people at the laboratory are not
objective about this. I have evidence to indicate they have the names of the
riders connected to the numbers. In order for them to be objective, without
any kind of bias, it has to be completely anonymous. That has to be a fatal
flaw in the system. It's devastating and now I'm angry and disappointed in
the system. I'm upset that some people with ethics like they have, have been
given the authority to do the things they're doing."

As I said at the outset, I would really like to believe Floyd and maybe he
will present this alleged evidence to show that the testing was not
anonymous and that would certainly seem to be a grave, perhaps inexcusable
and fatal flaw. Maybe Floyd will take hopeful but skeptical cycling fan
Michael Richardson of San Diego, California up on his offer of $100, 00.00
to take a polygraph test regarding the doping allegations to offer Floyd one
way to affirm his innocence sooner, rather than later or never. (from
VeloNews.com see "Californian offers Landis $100, 00 to take polygraph
test"😉

I know a lot of cyclists and cycling fans, myself included would love to see
Floyd exonerated, but we probably do not want to see him fitted for an
aluminium foil beanie nor end up sounding like some paranoid ranter . . . so
I say to Floyd and his legal team . . . please, please bring on the proof
that the testing was biased and flawed and NOT anonymous - the sooner the
better. You would be doing the wonderful sport of cycling, many cyclists and
cycling enthusiasts an invaluable favour.

Waiting to see the evidence of flawed testing and Floyd's other
explanations,

Michael Andrino
Los Angeles, California
Tuesday, August 8, 2006

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Ned Buntline schreef:

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It would be better if he and his zillion alter egos would stop posting all
together.

Joe and Emma are weird but also funny. And I guess the photos show that
they're there as fans by the road side. That's good.

--
E. Dronkert

I was wondering if anyone would follow in with that. Sounds kinda the same
doesn't it?

"Mr. Blutarsky, zero-point-zero."

"Mr. Joe King-DopedCyclist-Froid Landis-Floyd Cheated, zero-point-zero."
Something tells me he heard that the first time he repeated the second
grade.

Perhaps Floyd should take the advise of Bluto: "Over? Did you say 'over'?
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed
Pearl Harbor? Hell no! An' it ain't over now!"

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Ned Buntline schreef:

Quoted message said:

It would be better if he and his zillion alter egos would stop posting
all together.

Joe and Emma are weird but also funny. And I guess the photos show that
they're there as fans by the road side. That's good.

yeah, he posted some cool fotos a few years ago of paris roubaix (i
think..maybe the ronde, my memory sucks). and i don't think he has a
zillion alter egos, but i haven't done a study or anything.

h