Jeanson wins. No comments?

[Eddie Arzouian]

Yes.


And what will be served by it all?

Lives will be ruined.

Careers wrecked.

**** Pound will prune a little with pride.

The labs will make more money.

Sport will not be one bit better off. It will not level any playing fields.

Just one more useless, unproductive and unsuccessful "War on Drugs".

 

[Uboat]

Do you believe that athletes should use Performance Enhancing Drugs? Akin to the no-resrictions categories in bodybuilding?

Yes.


And what will be served by it all?

Lives will be ruined.

Careers wrecked.

**** Pound will prune a little with pride.

The labs will make more money.

Sport will not be one bit better off. It will not level any playing fields.

Just one more useless, unproductive and unsuccessful "War on Drugs".

 

[Uboat]

Do you believe that athletes should use Performance Enhancing Drugs? Akin to the no-resrictions categories in bodybuilding?

Yes.


And what will be served by it all?

Lives will be ruined.

Careers wrecked.

**** Pound will prune a little with pride.

The labs will make more money.

Sport will not be one bit better off. It will not level any playing fields.

Just one more useless, unproductive and unsuccessful "War on Drugs".

 

[Eddie Arzouian]

I think WADA is far too over zealous.

Penalities are unreasonable.

Too much of it is a scam.

I don't think people really care.

 

[Uboat]

Sorry, I'll ask again. Can you answer this:

Do you believe that athletes should use Performance Enhancing Drugs? Akin to the no-resrictions categories in bodybuilding?

I think WADA is far too over zealous.

Penalities are unreasonable.

Too much of it is a scam.

I don't think people really care.

 

[Jon Jonson]

If I may, I'd like to add a follow-up to Uboat's question.

What if an athlete chooses not to risk spawning an "autistic" and/or "deformed" child?

Should they be shut out in favour of the FDA-approved Olympics sponsored by (insert your pharamaceutical manufacturer of choice)?

And if the populace doesn't really care, why do athlete's continue to blame others for their downfall? Specifically, I'm refererring to David Millar's disgusting response to Gaumont's confession and Hamilton's (unintentionally) hilarious response to doping charges.

 

[Eddie Arzouian]

Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

Let them ruin them on their own if they insist and persist.

 

[Uboat]

"Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs."

- Ed Arzouian


---- that's classic..

Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

Let them ruin them on their own if they insist and persist.

 

[Eddie Arzouian]

That's what you wanted, right?


Of course, I did qualify it, didn't I?

 

[BillyBlass]

I do not want my kids taking dope to perform better than the next person. I am willing to let GJ to take the fall if it protects my children's future health. GJ and her coach are a freak show any ways. Unfortunately, a big price to pay for Canadian cyclists. Good riddance to her and her coach.

I agree with your point regarding the dopers ruining themselves, but, you know who really pays the tab...you, me, Jon Jonson, Uboat, et al. In direct monetary terms, our tax dollars will pay for rehabilitation, whether invoiced through drug repercussions or a "on the job" scam.

Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

Let them ruin them on their own if they insist and persist.

 

[Eddie Arzouian]

BB,


Your kids will probably try drugs just for kicks, not for performance enhance, as I would suggest you or some or your friends have probably done as well.

Drugs pervade out society in pop culutre and sport. The only difference is that in sports, especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.

 

[BillyBlass]

especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.

And inconsistent punishment. GJ got three strikes (I include the worlds at Hamilton). It should be ONE strike, "yer out". Long line of athletes to take the cheaters place. Eventually the risk will be too great to dope. Even taking a caffine tablet will be given a second thought.

A problem is that the country (or sport) that applies this strict punishment will be on the bad end of an unlevel playing field for awhile. If that is Canada (or cycling) , then so be it. Get it over with.

 

[peeininnepean]

BB,


Your kids will probably try drugs just for kicks, not for performance enhance, as I would suggest you or some or your friends have probably done as well.

Drugs pervade out society in pop culutre and sport. The only difference is that in sports, especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.

Ed, you're making a fool of yourself. To anyone with half a brain, GJ was a dope-donkey from the start, and you were out there defending her. If anything, it shows how disconnected you are from the cycling scene, despite the "friends" you keep referring back to in the sport. So she tests again, and again, putting egg on your face, and you claim it's a societal problem. Maybe it is for you, Ed, but it may amaze you to know that there are some people of your very generation who've not gotten whacked on drugs, and that the probability that BB's kids will hit the pipe, joint, needle, whatever is low, though not negligible.

You're a disconnected dumb-ass. Get a job!

 

[Eddie Arzouian]

Oh, I have a job. Two almost. You have to watch the local news here, you would know all about it.


Genevieve Jeanson was the best female rider this country had. By far the most recognized for better or worse.

That her career may end this way is tragic.

The whole situation has been mishandled four at least five years by the CCA, FQSC, Aubut and others.

I am in no way disconnected. I have been in contact with all these parties in one way or another for six years.

Had there been more leadership coming from the CCA in Ottawa this could have all been avoided. Instead we got Hutsebaut and this battle of petty egos and Kinash who couldn't find his ass with two hands in the dark.

 

[Prairie Boy]

So Genevieve Jeanson wins both the Montreal Women's World Cup and the Canadian Nationals, something no Canadian woman has EVER done?

Do you still need more proof she is the best woman in CDN road racing?

All just further proof that if the CCA had not acted like fools, if they had shown Jeanson more faith and trust last year and selected her for the Olympics Canada would probably have another Olympic medal.

Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do in Ottawa (or Regina, for that matter, eh, Bill???)

Ed, I wonder what you think of Alex Wrubleski. She dominated the elite women at road nationals as a U23 rider, something the Quebec girls have not done. She is the best female rider in Canada in a long time and she is doing this without the benefit of drugs, like your Quebec girl. And the thing that you, specifically, would enjoy, is that she is from Regina and rides with Bill Kinash.

 

[Fausto Coppied]

She is from Regina and rides with Bill Kinash.

Ed is banned again.

Allow me to respond for him.

If she keeps that up she is sure to fail.

Get her out of there and away from Kinash, ASAP.

Kinash is a proven failure, the only one-time CCA President in the Association's history. The CCA is going to suffer for years from his mismanagement and misguided policies. Just look what happened to his COO, he just quit after less than two years.

Saskatchewan is and has been for 30 years the worst cycling province in the country thanks to Kinash.

 

[Uboat]

Ed is banned again.

Allow me to respond for him.

If she keeps that up she is sure to fail.

Get her out of there and away from Kinash, ASAP.

Kinash is a proven failure, the only one-time CCA President in the Association's history. The CCA is going to suffer for years from his mismanagement and misguided policies. Just look what happened to his COO, he just quit after less than two years.

Saskatchewan is and has been for 30 years the worst cycling province in the country thanks to Kinash.

Gee, Fausto CoppiED, you're so clever.

Good Day Sirs (and Ed)

 

[Fausto Coppied]

Once again we see Uboat has absolutely nothing of interest or pertinence to bring to the topic.


Uboat, what is it like to be so boring?

 

[Uboat]

Once again we see Uboat has absolutely nothing of interest or pertinence to bring to the topic.


Uboat, what is it like to be so boring?

Hey Ed, what's it like to be nuts, get blocked on every forum in cycling, fired from every job and charged for illegal drug use and firearms?

Good Day Sirs. I have a real job to get back to.

 

[Prairie Boy]

Alex has done something as a U23 that no one has done, not in any other province. We also have a world champion. We are not dominate, but considering the number of actual racers, we produce fairly well. And we don't have issues with commissaires or race organizers, etc. It is a nice place to live and race.