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  1. Too many hours on the Coker can lead my mind down many philosophical
    paths, especially when the 125 mm cranks put many real paths out of
    bounds.

    For example: this forum raises epistemological questions - questions
    about the nature of knowledge, and what we can actually know. How do
    any of you know that I exist at all? If indeed, any of you exist...
    Clearly someone is writing this, unless you're imagining reading it, but
    how do you know I really have done the rides that I've written up over
    the last year or two? A few of you (Unicus, Onewheeldave, Arnold the
    Aardvark, and a few others) have met me, but have you met them? And
    they never saw me do the rides.

    But there's more to philosophy than the old 6th form question, "Ah, but
    how do you know this is a table/ I owe you a beer/ I won't respect you
    in the morning?" Read on:

    If we are to believe Plato, Socrates believed that virtue was a kind of
    knowledge. He argued that no man would knowingly do something wrong.
    Therefore, if a man did something wrong, it was because he was deficient
    in the knowledge of what was right. A modern comparison can be made
    with my ex wife who argued that no man could do anything right,
    knowingly or otherwise.

    Of course, Socrates' theory leaves open the question of how something
    can be objectively right or wrong; and if it is, how can we know?

    Sartre (a particularly contemplative cheese eating surrender monkey)
    looked at the argument in a different way. He believed that each man
    did what he thought was justified in the circumstances. Man is a
    rationalising animal (rather than a rational animal) and can come up
    with a superficially valid justification for almost anything. It is
    never possible to know exactly how someone reaches a decision, because
    our motives are multi-layered (c.f. Shrek: "Ogres are like onions"😉 and
    sometimes hidden even from ourselves, so we can only judge a man by what
    he decides, and we can only tell what he decides by what he actually
    does.

    This contrasts with Milligan's concept of the hero with coward's legs.

    So, here's me riding around the big lake this evening. It's been a bad
    day at work (maintaining an unbroken record of bad days at work over 22
    years) and the beautiful weather which grinned maliciously in through
    the office window all day became a scowling brat of rain and chill winds
    by the time I left. Uninspired, I decide simply to get some miles in...
    and perhaps to do the 25 miles without a dismount.

    I make it to the lake without incident, except that the path is blocked
    with deep puddles in many places and, try as I might, I can't avoid
    getting a soaking. A Coker wheel in a puddle is like a water wheel in
    reverse, the water extracting the energy from the wheel as it is thrown
    up into the millstream of the rider's backside.

    Onto the lake side, and I make the first lap in pretty good time; Part
    way round the second lap (each lap is around 3 miles) I'm in my stride,
    but starting to feel the pressure on the seat. By the start of the
    third lap, my legs are starting to feel the strain. I've been "in the
    zone" and pedalling a little faster than I should.

    So, the existentialism starts to bite in lap three. The internal
    dialogue starts:
    You don't have to do this.
    No, but I can't stop now.
    Why not?
    Because...
    Because what?
    You've done about 10 miles. It would be a pity to waste that.
    Yes, but that means I've as far to go again - and then some.
    You know you can do it.
    So, if I know, why do I have to prove it?
    It's a challenge.
    A pretty pointless one.
    Yes, but all unicycling is pointless.
    Look, this is one of those cases where I have to grit my teeth and push
    on. I'm bound to have a low point in a long ride.
    But why have a low point when you're only doing it for fun.
    But the fun comes from the achievement.
    Pretty daft sort of fun. If I didn't have these short cranks on, I
    could be achieving some obstacles, instead of just an arbitrary
    number.
    But you've set a challenge, you can't wimp out now.
    But I have to bear in mind the effects. I'll be fencing for 3 hours
    tomorrow,
    And?
    And I am 41 you know.
    You've read your Sartre. You are what you decide. Are you going to
    decide to stop?
    Ha! Am I going to decide to carry on, just because I daren't decide not
    to?

    At this point, I notice my feet are cold, because I've splashed through
    far too many puddles, and it's blowing a chill wind. Motorcyclists have
    a horror of cold feet. Once they go cold, they take a lot of warming
    up.

    Existentially, I'm now a certified wimp. I didn't do the 25 miles, or
    even the 20... or the 15...

    And, to serve me right, it looks like my computer's lost the "score" for
    the ride. I know I stopped at 11.7 miles after 1:12, so I guess I did
    about 12.5 miles in around 1:20. Not a bad ride, but I really wasn't up
    for it tonight.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  2. Mikefule pondered:

    Quoted message said:

    How do
    any of you know that I exist at all? If indeed, any of you exist...
    Clearly someone is writing this, unless you're imagining reading it,

    Or you are a fine example of a Turing machine.

    Quoted message said:

    A few of you (Unicus, Onewheeldave, Arnold the
    Aardvark, and a few others) have met me, but have you met them? And
    they never saw me do the rides.

    I know Arnold (and quite possibly the others, although not by their
    pseudonyms). But curiously you've never come up in conversation.
    Perhaps you really don't exist.

    Quoted message said:

    A modern comparison can be made
    with my ex wife who argued that no man could do anything right,
    knowingly or otherwise.

    Which leads to the age old question: "If a man says something and no
    woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?" Both my mother and my
    wife have informed me that the answer is unequivocally "Yes."

    Quoted message said:

    I make it to the lake without incident, except that the path is blocked
    with deep puddles in many places and, try as I might, I can't avoid
    getting a soaking. A Coker wheel in a puddle is like a water wheel in
    reverse, the water extracting the energy from the wheel as it is thrown
    up into the millstream of the rider's backside.

    You need a mudguard, mate. An imaginary one should do ;-)

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <url:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  3. Some questions to ponder:

    How do you know you did a ride today?

    Did you have fun?

    If everything is so flexible, how do you know you *only* rode as many
    miles as you did? Maybe it was many more?

    --
    johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge

    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
    "jfoss" at "unicycling.com"
    www.unicycling.com

    "I should be wearing a helmet here -- so should you." -- George Peck,
    who prefers not to wear one, in the 1991 video Rough Terrain Unicycling
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  4. Mikefule said:

    * How do any of you know that I exist at all? *

    If you think about it long enough, you will begin to believe only
    "thoughts" exist. Time is the movement of thought. Distance is
    impossible to prove.

    YES, BUT ALL UNICYCLING IS POINTLESS.[/B]
    I AM GLAD \"SOMEONE ELSE\" HAD THIS THOUGHT PROCESS WHILE RIDING 😄

    *EXISTENTIALLY, I'M NOW A CERTIFIED WIMP. I DIDN'T DO THE 25 MILES, OR
    EVEN THE 20... OR THE 15...
    Don't think of it that way, especially because "we all" know that you
    will attempt the 25 UPDless ride again later.

    [B]And, to serve me right, it looks like my computer's lost the "score"*
    I *hate* when that happens. Miles on a unicycle are too hard-earned for me
    to be comfortable with the computer ignoring revolutions.
    Another thought I have had:
    Is the first revolution counted?
    If not, how much farther have I gone? (I often mount 200+ times per day)


    --
    ChangingLINKS.com - member

    Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
    Drew Brown
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  5. If you are a wimp for only doing 12 miles. what am I for not even
    thinking of doing 12 miles!:eek: I have done 6 miles on a 20".😄 Or
    have I?😕

    --
    bugman - Survivor 2004 Wolfman Duathalon
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  6. Mikefule said:

    *Too many hours on the Coker can lead my mind down many philosophical
    paths...

    Yes, but all unicycling is pointless.
    *

    I beg to differ! There are a lot of fine points to unicycling!

    There is the very serious point at the center of gravity, and it's
    equally comedic counterpart, the balance point. And as any drama
    teacher will say, comedy is very close to tragedy, which explains the
    dreaded Point of No Return that unicyclists spend most of their time
    avoiding.

    Mathematically speaking, a circle is an infinite collection of points
    all equidistant from the central point of the matter, which is
    conveniently located at the center of the wheel matter. Which matters!
    Unless you are a square. Or tacoed.

    And what about the turning point? How can it be that, wherever you are
    on a unicycle, you are always at a turning point? Does it follow you
    around like a twisted little dog, or is it an intrinsic property of two
    round objects in contact?

    Which brings me back to the matter of tacos. I've done my Coker riding
    for the evening and now it's time to forage for dinner. A beer and some
    tacos sound pretty good at the moment. Which is, I suppose, the whole
    point of getting out in the fresh air for excercise.

    If it wern't for the unicycles, tacos and beer, life really would be a
    pointless excercise.

    Tim

    --
    cyberbellum - Level 1.0 rider!

    Optimists think the glass is half full. Pesimists think the glass is
    half empty. Engineers think the glass is too big.
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  7. Mikefule wrote:

    "Too many hours on the Coker...many philosophical paths...."

    Mikefule-- Thanks for sharing your musings about the process of
    wrenching a wee bit of meaning from the abyss of your meaningless
    existence! I genuinely enjoyed reading your existential ponderings.
    😉 --carl (Grand Forks, ND)

  8. do you like my unicycle poem, this is it.

    I love to unicycle,
    My name isnt micheal.
    I like to do trails.
    I don't collect airmiles.
    I also like doing tricks.
    My pastime isn't sucking [censored].
    I love my cranks and wheel.
    HAMBURGERS ARE MY FAVOURITE MEAL!

    --
    Grogboy
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  9. bugman said:

    *If you are a wimp for only doing 12 miles. what am I for not even
    thinking of doing 12 miles!:eek: I have done 6 miles on a 20".😄
    Or have I?😕 *

    The two achievements are pretty comparable. Depending on a number of
    variables such as the length of your cranks, I'd say 6 miles on a 20 is
    worth 12 on a Coker. A Coker's wheel is slightly less than twice as big
    as a 20, but the smoother action makes it a better distance machine. A
    big wheel for distance or sustained speed, every time.

    I speak as one who knows. I once did 20 miles in a day on a 20, and
    I've done the "mile per inch" on a 24, 28 and 36.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  10. Would anybody like to enlighten me as to what coker is?

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  11. Grogboy said:

    *Would anybody like to enlighten me as to what coker is? *

    A Coker is a unicycle with a 36 inch diameter wheel. It gets its name
    from the tyre, made by the Coker Tire Company.

    The 36 inch wheel makes it a fantastic machine for riding on rough
    trails and cross country. With a standard wheel, it's not strong enough
    for really tough MUni (mountain unicycling), but many people have
    custome Cokers with lightweight aerofoil rims and wider stronger hubs.

    As a road machine, a Coker in standard trim (150 mm (6 inch) cranks) is
    good for speeds of up to around 15 MPH, maybe more. A good Cokerist can
    easily average 10 mph for a couple of hours at a time.

    The Coker is the largest pneumatic-tyred unicycle available. Anything
    bigger has to have a solid rubber tyre, which makes for a less
    comfortable ride.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  12. Grogboy said:

    *Would anybody like to enlighten me as to what coker is? *

    A Coker is a unicycle with a 36 inch diameter wheel. It gets its name
    from the tyre, made by the Coker Tire Company.

    The 36 inch wheel makes it a fantastic machine for riding on rough
    trails and cross country. With a standard wheel, it's not strong enough
    for really tough MUni (mountain unicycling), but many people have
    custome Cokers with lightweight aerofoil rims and wider stronger hubs.

    As a road machine, a Coker in standard trim (150 mm (6 inch) cranks) is
    good for speeds of up to around 15 MPH, maybe more. A good Cokerist can
    easily average 10 mph for a couple of hours at a time.

    The Coker is the largest pneumatic-tyred unicycle available. Anything
    bigger has to have a solid rubber tyre, which makes for a less
    comfortable ride.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  13. as will smith in independance day RE an alien space craft "I GOTTA GET
    ME ONE OF DEESE!"

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  14. as will smith in independance day RE an alien space craft "I GOTTA GET
    ME ONE OF DEESE!"

    --
    Grogboy - wankspanner

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  15. Grogboy said:

    *as will smith in independance day RE an alien space craft "I GOTTA
    GET ME ONE OF DEESE!" *

    Out of stock in UK, but here's the link.

    http://tinyurl.com/3vk

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
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  16. Mikefule said:

    *The internal dialogue starts:
    You don't have to do this.
    No, but I can't stop now.
    Why not?
    Because...
    Because what?
    *


    the things u find when u do a search for Plato
    😉

    Mike, this internal dialogue sound remarkably like me quitting
    smoking:eek:

    --
    GILD - Waffle-[censored] and Time-bider

    If you can't say anything good about someone, sit right here by me.
    -- Alice 'Roosevelt' (http://tinyurl.com/5ngze) Longworth
    I'm going to memorize your name and throw my head away.
    -- Oscar Levant

    '[image: http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/sp/84255.gif]'
    (http://tinyurl.com/ywxgb)
    Namaste!
    Dave
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  17. Quoted message said:

    I'll be fencing for 3 hours tomorrow

    would that be sabre, foil or proper fencing?

    Quoted message said:

    Mike, this internal dialogue sound remarkably like me quitting smoking

    Are you quitting at the moment? Do you have any handy hints? The time
    has come for me to rid myself of the black lung...I quit for a bit last
    year when I was in the alps for a bit. But I'm finding it somewhat
    harder here in dreary Macclesfield. I'm going to go to the doctors
    though and see if I can get me some free nicotine patches from the good
    old NHS. Aaah, free nicotine...That's what it's all about.

    Kit

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  18. My advice is to get a copy of Allen Carrs 'Easy Way to Give up Smoking';
    read it and do exactly what it says.

    I've quit for over four years now, and will never smoke again.

    The book may seem dogmatic (I remember it did to me when I read it as a
    smoker), but looking at it through the eyes of a successful quitter, I
    can tell you that everything in it makes sense.

    Best of luck.

    --
    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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  19. Mikefule said:

    *At this point, I notice my feet are cold, because I've splashed
    through far too many puddles, and it's blowing a chill wind.
    Motorcyclists have a horror of cold feet. Once they go cold, they
    take a lot of warming up.

    Existentially, I'm now a certified wimp. I didn't do the 25 miles, or
    even the 20... or the 15...

    And, to serve me right, it looks like my computer's lost the "score"
    for the ride. I know I stopped at 11.7 miles after 1:12, so I guess I
    did about 12.5 miles in around 1:20. Not a bad ride, but I really
    wasn't up for it tonight. *

    cold feet alone is a good reason to stop.

    This morning I just did my longest rise yet. 12 miles. I'm glad that you
    feel a wimp for doing such a distance, and one day I hope to feel the
    same! I would do a write-up, but it was an uneventful ride. maybe next
    week.

    If you feel like doing it, do it. If you don't feel like it, then don't
    (it could be riding, cleaning, a trip, whatever) I know sometimes
    there's a choice.

    It's like that old one of "Why do you climb mountains?" answer:"because
    they're there".

    If one thought too much about it, one may come to the logical conclusion
    that we're only here to keep the human race going. The population's high
    enough just about everywhere, so we're surplus to requirements...

    --
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  20. Wow, talk about a late revival. This thread's about 5 months old.

    Someone asked about the fencing. It's foil, and only foil. I haven't
    tried the "novelty weapons" yet. ;0)

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Everyone should be fatuous for 15 minutes.
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