JD's Trek Posts

Dan Volker said:

Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's [censored].

I think bomba covered this one all too well.

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You don't even
know what the real argument has been about, even though you have been
chiming in from the start.

What makes you think there's one single "real argument" in this thread?
TBF's original thread was about "JRA" - just riding around - which has a
hell of a lot to do with the "traditional" view of mountain biking.

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Aside from the backslapping among you and the
other circle jerkers, the dispute has little to do with good mountain
biking....the dispute is much more about two views of the sport.

NO, that was just YOUR personal beef.

His dispute with JD was about brands of full-suspension bikes, and if
you'd read the thread you'd notice there was no mention of singlespeeds.
JD's broken quite a few bike frames in his years. Personally, I think that
is mostly due to the fact that he's a behemoth so what breaks for him
might not break for a lot of others...but that's why I haven't been
involved in this thread.

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but that's why I haven't been involved in this thread.

I just try and stay the hell away from any of these kinds of threads (maybe
I'll write a "let me count the ways" sonnet sometime). Not my cup of tea,
really.

I sure do like to ride. Had a fine SS outing last night despite cold and
wind. Good stuff!

Matt (although sometimes, like a black hole I get sucked in no matter how
hard I try to resist)

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You know, if JD didn't exist, we would have to invent him.

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Corvus Corvax said:

"TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote
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You know, if JD didn't exist, we would have to invent him.

JD is the AM-B equivalent to rec.cycling.*'s Fabrizio Mazzoleni.

Bill "GT and I know -- we tried to find the shack and it was just a mailbox
in a strip mall" S.

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TBF wrote:
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> Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is obviously

his

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> thing, but it's you groupies that make me laugh. Your so eager to

kiss

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his

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> ass that your probably staking out the bathrooms in his town.
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You and Dan still don't get it. It has absofuckinlutely nothing to do

with

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JD. It has everything to do with heaping grief on 2 completely

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pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

Greg

Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's [censored]. You don't

even

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know what the real argument has been about, even though you have been
chiming in from the start. Aside from the backslapping among you and the
other circle jerkers, the dispute has little to do with good mountain
biking....the dispute is much more about two views of the sport. There

is

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the SS group, that thinks REAL MOUNTAINBIKING is about simplifying,
lightening, spending less, and somehow getting back to basics ( and of
course, forgetting that hiking would be the ultimate extension of
this)....

[censored], dude, you still don't get it. WTF is wrong with you? Do you

realize

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that there is no "SS group"? Once you realize that you may just start
getting it.

Greg

Greg, your delusional. There is a dominant posting presence on this NG from
people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of these guys, and
so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

MattB said:

I sure do like to ride. Had a fine SS outing last night despite cold and
wind. Good stuff!

Uh-oh, he said the "S" word. ;-)

I nearly had a fine outing despite cold and wind. Ended up spending all
evening helping my daughter with a school project - couldn't resist, it
was a trebuchet! I let her do all the design work, making me mostly a
laborer, but it was still fun just doing things together.

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Matt (although sometimes, like a black hole I get sucked in no matter how
hard I try to resist)

I know, I know.

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Dan Volker said:

"G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message

There is a dominant posting presence on this

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NG from people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of
these guys, and so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

cool Dan... care to show us the statiscal breakdown on that? Do you have a
breakdown by topic or poster, and did you use a percentile basis,
estimation, or are you manually tallying everything.

this I gotta see.

penny

Penny S said:

Dan Volker said:

"G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message

There is a dominant posting presence on this

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NG from people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of
these guys, and so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

cool Dan... care to show us the statiscal breakdown on that? Do you
have a breakdown by topic or poster, and did you use a percentile
basis, estimation, or are you manually tallying everything.

I blame Bill Wheeler.

Bill "for everything" S.

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MattB said:

I sure do like to ride. Had a fine SS outing last night despite cold
and wind. Good stuff!

Uh-oh, he said the "S" word. ;-)

I nearly had a fine outing despite cold and wind. Ended up spending
all evening helping my daughter with a school project - couldn't
resist, it was a trebuchet! I let her do all the design work, making
me mostly a laborer, but it was still fun just doing things together.

My son built a scale model ballista a few years ago. We had to video the
results, he couldn't take a weapon to school ( roll eyes) It shoots pop
cans and tennis balls.
There are lots of cool web site out there dedicated to building these
things!!

penny

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:23:25 -0400, Dan Volker wrote:

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NO, that was just YOUR personal beef.

His dispute with JD was about brands of full-suspension bikes, and if
you'd read the thread you'd notice there was no mention of singlespeeds.
JD's broken quite a few bike frames in his years. Personally, I think that
is mostly due to the fact that he's a behemoth so what breaks for him
might not break for a lot of others...but that's why I haven't been
involved in this thread.

OK, valid point.
My post was colored by expectations...as would your if MV posted to you
about why you should not ride on a specific trail ( you'd expect an agenda
from him, and you'd pretty well guess what it would be ).

Dan V

Penny S said:

BB wrote: (some way off-topic [censored] about trebuchets)

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There are lots of cool web site out there dedicated to building these
things!!

No kidding! There were probably a dozen at least. Hers is nearly a
duplicate of one she saw on a website - 12" tall and fires a ball 33 feet
with high accuracy!

How did we EVER get by when we were kids?!?!

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Dan Volker said:

"G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message

There is a dominant posting presence on this

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NG from people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of
these guys, and so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

cool Dan... care to show us the statiscal breakdown on that? Do you have a
breakdown by topic or poster, and did you use a percentile basis,
estimation, or are you manually tallying everything.

this I gotta see.

penny

Great Penney, I suppose if you went to dinner with 8 people, you'd enter the
evening's discussion threads into an excel sheet, and create statistical
models of each person????

Dan V

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MattB said:

I sure do like to ride. Had a fine SS outing last night despite cold
and wind. Good stuff!

Uh-oh, he said the "S" word. ;-)

Whoops! I guess it slipped out. Well, to make up for it I'll point out that
I rode my geared FS twice last week. I'd like to think I'd don't fit very
neatly into any of the stereotypes presented here. All the resta' y'all do
though! Every one! (well, except for some).

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I nearly had a fine outing despite cold and wind. Ended up spending
all evening helping my daughter with a school project - couldn't
resist, it was a trebuchet! I let her do all the design work, making
me mostly a laborer, but it was still fun just doing things together.

Cool. I'm looking forward to making stuff like that with my boy.

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Matt (although sometimes, like a black hole I get sucked in no
matter how hard I try to resist)

I know, I know.

Maybe we should just try to hijack all these threads and send them spiraling
into the abyss of talk about actual riding!
Oh the horror!

Matt (motivational problems at work today - I should be riding!)

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:23:25 -0400, Dan Volker wrote:

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But of course, if JD was on a SS at Quiet Waters, I would also enjoy having to
wait for him to catch up every 5 minutes or so :-)

Dan V

You've got a great imagination, but I suppose stranger things may have happened.

paladin

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"G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message

There is a dominant posting presence on this

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NG from people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of
these guys, and so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

cool Dan... care to show us the statiscal breakdown on that? Do you have a
breakdown by topic or poster, and did you use a percentile basis,
estimation, or are you manually tallying everything.

this I gotta see.

penny

Great Penney, I suppose if you went to dinner with 8 people, you'd enter the
evening's discussion threads into an excel sheet, and create statistical
models of each person????

Nice dodge cluewbie.

Perhaps if you truly thought about the answer, you would realize how
utterly foolish your claims are.

I doubt you'll do that though. The thinking part that is.

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Dan Volker said:

"G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message

There is a dominant posting presence on this

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NG from people who either are fanatical SSers, or who are buddies of
these guys, and so they enjoy playing the same posting game.
Dan V

cool Dan... care to show us the statiscal breakdown on that? Do you have a
breakdown by topic or poster, and did you use a percentile basis,
estimation, or are you manually tallying everything.

this I gotta see.

penny

Great Penney, I suppose if you went to dinner with 8 people, you'd enter the
evening's discussion threads into an excel sheet, and create statistical
models of each person????

Dan V

can't...stop...laughing...
Dude, are you capable of carrying on a normal conversation? Every time
you open your mouth (keyboard, whatever) you flare up and get pushed
into a corner. Please, never go away, your threads are a blast to read.

Your quickly becoming my favorite poster.

Dan V says:

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There is a dominant posting presence on this NG from
people who either are fanatical SSers,

Not really - just Bill...

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or who are buddies of these guys,

Yeah - kinda.

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and
so they enjoy playing the same posting game.

Y'know, Danny boy, if you don't like the grouip as it is, you are welcome to
leave - just don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Steve "Buh-Bye...."

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TBF said:

Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is obviously

his

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thing, but it's you groupies that make me laugh. Your so eager to kiss

his

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ass that your probably staking out the bathrooms in his town.

You and Dan still don't get it. It has absofuckinlutely nothing to do

with

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JD. It has everything to do with heaping grief on 2 completely [censored]
pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

Greg

Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's [censored]. You don't

even

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know what the real argument has been about, even though you have been
chiming in from the start. Aside from the backslapping among you and the
other circle jerkers, the dispute has little to do with good mountain
biking....the dispute is much more about two views of the sport. There is
the SS group, that thinks REAL MOUNTAINBIKING is about simplifying,
lightening, spending less, and somehow getting back to basics ( and of
course, forgetting that hiking would be the ultimate extension of
this)....and there is another group of mountain bikers, that is always
looking for the Magic Carpet ride...they want the technological marvel

that

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will allow them to do more, easier. If someone in this category was given

a

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rigid SS bike to ride, they would feel that they were being robbed of a

huge

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part of the experience of mountain biking---the feeling that they had all
these technological solutions, all dialed in just for them, each
contributing perfectly to the ideal performance for a thrilling ride on a
good trail.
The people who resemble either of these two the most, don't think THE

SPORT

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OF MOUNTAIN BIKING should be enjoyed any other way than their approach.
Both groups forget that we are all doing this for the thrill and for the
outdoor adventure... They are really arguing about who knows how to have
fun, and this is a pretty stupid thing to argue about. I've been pretty

stu

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pid in that I've allowed myself to be sucked in to such a ridiculous
argument, by people so far away that settling the argument is a huge, long
distance ordeal. Such a ridiculous argument could only be created in a
place like the Internet, and there is no guarantee it can be settled with
some kind of "group get-together" .... you still have the two conflicting
ideas of what fun is, even after all the fitness and skill posturing get
sorted out in a group ride.

Dan V

So how about that Victoria's Secrets thing huh....yeesh

Who cares what a handful of people think? At the end of the day I ride
because I love being outdoors. Whether it's in the woods hiking, climbing or
the motorcycle on a nice stretch of country road doing 160, it's all good to
me.

When I had my roadster, there were people who constantly fought about
everything under the sun...biggest pipes, better engine, nicest rims,
yadayadayada. Now that I sold the car and bought a motorcycle, same thing
every Friday night, bunch of people and a pissing contest over who rocks...

I really just like reading about the rides ya'll go on and seeing the odd
pictures of singletrack back home, I could care less what other people are
riding, as long as it's safe...we got [censored] all in Canada, LOL, nah that's
not true but the USA rocks for MTB!

BTW: much as I think he's a jerk, somebody once told me something
outstanding about JD that didn't have anything to do with bikes. He can't be
all that bad if it was true.

So now back to the VC thing, we should start a petition to bring it back!!

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I really just like reading about the rides ya'll go on and seeing the odd
pictures of singletrack back home, I could care less what other people are
riding, as long as it's safe.

Who says he doesn't get it?

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So now back to the VC thing, we should start a petition to bring it back!!

The Viet Cong?

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The Viet Cong?

Sure if they look good in a two piece !