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  1. From the Google archives:

    "Kathleen, when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my
    Y bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-
    December and I did state that."

    And this gem:

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been replaced
    under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a damn
    good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    Even better, a poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to
    a Trek URT Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled
    Trek 850 to my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec? JD interested in a Y11"

  2. TBF said:

    From the Google archives:

    "Kathleen, when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had
    my Y bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-
    December and I did state that."

    And this gem:

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been replaced
    under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a damn
    good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    Even better, a poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820
    to a Trek URT Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled
    Trek 850 to my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec? JD interested in a Y11"

    Dude, that was like so last millenium. Some people learn,
    some don't. You seem to be the type like Dan V. who don't.

    Greg

  3. "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    From the Google archives:

    "Kathleen, when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had
    my Y bike that


    had

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been in warranty replacement since mid-December and I
    did state that."

    And this gem:

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been replaced
    under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a damn
    good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    Even better, a poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820
    to a Trek URT Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead
    sled Trek 850 to


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec? JD interested in a Y11"

    Dude, that was like so last millenium. Some people learn,
    some don't.


    You

    Quoted message said:

    seem to be the type like Dan V. who don't.

    Greg

    "Dude" what are you talking about? I already said I'm
    disappointed that the thing broke but otherwise it's a nice
    frame. The bike has performed very well, and except for this
    incident it's still tops.

    JD on the other hand did an about face on Treks and then
    wants to come down like he's some sort of mountain bike god.

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is
    obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make me
    laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your probably
    staking out the bathrooms in his town.

  4. TBF said:

    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    From the Google archives:

    "Kathleen, when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had
    my Y bike that

    had

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been in warranty replacement since mid-December and I did
    state that."

    And this gem:

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been replaced
    under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a damn
    good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    Even better, a poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820
    to a Trek URT Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead
    sled Trek 850 to

    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec? JD interested in a Y11"

    Dude, that was like so last millenium. Some people learn,
    some don't.

    You

    Quoted message said:

    seem to be the type like Dan V. who don't.

    Greg

    "Dude" what are you talking about? I already said I'm
    disappointed that the thing broke but otherwise it's a
    nice frame. The bike has performed very well, and except
    for this incident it's still tops.

    JD on the other hand did an about face on Treks and
    then wants to come down like he's some sort of mountain
    bike god.

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is
    obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make me
    laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your probably
    staking out the bathrooms in his town.

    Oh man, I can't wait for the AMB Snobs vs. Everyone
    Else showdown.

  5. TBF said:

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is
    obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make me
    laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your probably
    staking out the bathrooms in his town.

    pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

    Greg

  6. TBF said:

    "Dude" what are you talking about? I already said I'm
    disappointed that the thing broke but otherwise it's a
    nice frame. The bike has performed very well, and except
    for this incident it's still tops.

    JD on the other hand did an about face on Treks and
    then wants to come down like he's some sort of mountain
    bike god.

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB is
    obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make me
    laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your probably
    staking out the bathrooms in his town.

    Hey dumbass, your the one who's researching google to bust
    on JD, not the other way around. It appears to be pretty
    simple -- the man changed his mind regarding the quality of
    Trek frames after being disappointed several times. It's
    like Greg said, people learn!

    I've never met JD in the flesh, but he is well regarded by
    those in this NG who have met him -- both as a person and as
    a bike rider. Seems to me like you're the one who's coming
    into "town" and trying to stake out your own "tough guy"
    ground. What's wrong, can't you handle the fact that someone
    has a poor opinion of your ride?

    And guess what .... I ride a Trek!

    Sheesh!

    Tom

  7. tcmedara said:
    TBF said:

    "Dude" what are you talking about? I already said I'm
    disappointed that the thing broke but otherwise it's a
    nice frame. The bike has performed very well, and except
    for this incident it's still tops.

    JD on the other hand did an about face on Treks and
    then wants to come down like he's some sort of mountain
    bike god.

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB
    is obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make
    me laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your
    probably staking out the bathrooms in his town.

    Hey dumbass, your the one who's researching google to bust
    on JD, not the other way around. It appears to be pretty
    simple -- the man changed his mind regarding the quality
    of Trek frames after being disappointed several times.
    It's like Greg said, people learn!

    I've never met JD in the flesh, but he is well regarded by
    those in this NG who have met him -- both as a person and
    as a bike rider. Seems to me like you're the one who's
    coming into "town" and trying to stake out your own "tough
    guy" ground. What's wrong, can't you handle the fact that
    someone has a poor opinion of your ride?

    And guess what .... I ride a Trek!

    Sheesh!

    Tom

    Okay, just saw the battle of wits previously. Violated
    cardinal rule - read THEN post. None the less, looks like
    your still just trying to wipe the egg of your face there
    TBF. Give it a rest, dude.

    Tom

  8. tcmedara said:

    And guess what .... I ride a Trek!

    Loser! ;-)

    ('96 OCLV 9800, still goin'😉

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  9. Quoted message said:

    Okay, just saw the battle of wits previously. Violated
    cardinal rule -


    read

    Quoted message said:

    THEN post. None the less, looks like your still just
    trying to wipe the


    egg

    Quoted message said:

    of your face there TBF. Give it a rest, dude.

    Tom

    "Dude" I'm still stoked on the frame, [censored] happens once
    in awhile. I just brought back my new 80GB HDD for
    warranty replacement. 15 drives in 10 years from Seagate
    without a hitch. One bad batch ain't changing that, same
    with the bike.

    That being said, the egg was wiped long ago, actually right
    after I taco'ed the frame. Another season and I'm unto a SC
    Blur or Intense Spyder.

    Actually I couldn't care less what JD thinks, now Pee Wee
    Herman is my hero since I saw him with that beach
    cruiser, with the spinners...now if he dogs my ride I'm
    gonna be hurt!

    Cheers

    Jr (gone for a spin on my other ride)

  10. BB said:
    tcmedara said:

    And guess what .... I ride a Trek!

    Loser! ;-)

    My own personal loser-attributes list continues to grow the
    older I get. I'm sure by the time my kids are teenagers it
    will be enormous as they will be forced to add to it daily!
    In my own defense, I also have an early 1990's steel Fisher
    hardtail that I still ride quite regularly which will likely
    outlast all of us. I plan to ride it in some old timers fest
    at some Fat Tire Festival 50 years from now so all the young
    Dewbies of the day can gawk, point, and wonder how we could
    ride such hideous contraptions.

    Tom

  11. kantspel <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    TBF wrote:

    >From the Google archives:
    >
    >
    >"Kathleen, when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I
    >had my Y bike that

    had

    Quoted message said:

    >been in warranty replacement since mid-December and I
    >did state that."
    >
    >And this gem:
    >
    >"Even though mine broke (and has since been replaced
    >under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    >damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it
    >until it breaks again."
    >
    >Even better, a poster wrote he was going from a Trek
    >820 to a Trek URT Y-Bike and JD replied:
    >
    >"You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead
    >sled Trek 850 to

    my

    Quoted message said:

    >Y11, I surely did."
    >
    >In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:
    >
    >"Yeah?, so what's the spec? JD interested in a Y11"
    >
    >

    Dude, that was like so last millenium. Some people
    learn, some don't.

    You

    Quoted message said:

    seem to be the type like Dan V. who don't.

    Greg

    "Dude" what are you talking about? I already said I'm
    disappointed that the thing broke but otherwise it's a
    nice frame. The bike has performed very well, and except
    for this incident it's still tops.

    JD on the other hand did an about face on Treks and
    then wants to come down like he's some sort of mountain
    bike god.

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB
    is obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make
    me laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your
    probably staking out the bathrooms in his town.

    Oh man, I can't wait for the AMB Snobs vs. Everyone Else
    showdown.

    It's coming soon to a computer near you!

  12. "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB
    is obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make
    me laugh. Your so eager to kiss his ass that your
    probably staking out the bathrooms in his town.


    Quoted message said:

    pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

    Except that JD started the heaping and that seems to be ok
    with you, right?

  13. tcmedara said:
    BB said:


    Quoted message said:

    And guess what .... I ride a Trek!

    Loser! ;-)

    My own personal loser-attributes list continues to grow
    the older I get.

    Now, now...I was just kidding (that's why I pointed out the
    model of my TREK bicycle!).

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure by the time my kids are teenagers it will be
    enormous as they will be forced to add to it daily!

    Ah, they're not so bad. They still will be forced to
    admit (to themselves, anyway) that they need you from
    time to time.

    Quoted message said:

    In my own defense, I also have an early 1990's steel
    Fisher hardtail that I still ride quite regularly which
    will likely outlast all of us.

    Mine's a '94 steel Marin. Its my croozer now. Amazing how
    these things last. If only we lasted so well!

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  14. "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood. Alt.MTB
    is obviously his thing, but it's you groupies that make
    me laugh. Your so eager to kiss


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ass that your probably staking out the bathrooms in
    his town.


    with

    Quoted message said:

    pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

    Greg

    Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's [censored].
    You don't even know what the real argument has been about,
    even though you have been chiming in from the start. Aside
    from the backslapping among you and the other circle
    jerkers, the dispute has little to do with good mountain
    biking....the dispute is much more about two views of the
    sport. There is the SS group, that thinks REAL
    MOUNTAINBIKING is about simplifying, lightening, spending
    less, and somehow getting back to basics ( and of course,
    forgetting that hiking would be the ultimate extension of
    this)....and there is another group of mountain bikers, that
    is always looking for the Magic Carpet ride...they want the
    technological marvel that will allow them to do more,
    easier. If someone in this category was given a rigid SS
    bike to ride, they would feel that they were being robbed of
    a huge part of the experience of mountain biking---the
    feeling that they had all these technological solutions, all
    dialed in just for them, each contributing perfectly to the
    ideal performance for a thrilling ride on a good trail. The
    people who resemble either of these two the most, don't
    think THE SPORT OF MOUNTAIN BIKING should be enjoyed any
    other way than their approach. Both groups forget that we
    are all doing this for the thrill and for the outdoor
    adventure... They are really arguing about who knows how to
    have fun, and this is a pretty stupid thing to argue about.
    I've been pretty stu pid in that I've allowed myself to be
    sucked in to such a ridiculous argument, by people so far
    away that settling the argument is a huge, long distance
    ordeal. Such a ridiculous argument could only be created in
    a place like the Internet, and there is no guarantee it can
    be settled with some kind of "group get-together" .... you
    still have the two conflicting ideas of what fun is, even
    after all the fitness and skill posturing get sorted out in
    a group ride.

    Dan V

  15. Dan Volker said:

    Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's
    [censored].

    I was going to point out the anatomical flaws in this
    concept, but it got me thinking. When do pubic hairs become
    anal crack hairs? The hairs around the varse/barse
    (perineum) - what category do they fall in to?

    Quoted message said:

    There is the SS group, that thinks REAL MOUNTAINBIKING is
    about simplifying, lightening, spending less, and somehow
    getting back to basics ( and of course, forgetting that
    hiking would be the ultimate extension of this)....

    You do realise that the majority of people with whom you are
    having heated discussions, all own multi-geared FS bikes,
    don't you?

    Quoted message said:

    Such a ridiculous argument could only be created in a
    place like the Internet, and there is no guarantee it can
    be settled with some kind of "group get-together" .... you
    still have the two conflicting ideas of what fun is, even
    after all the fitness and skill posturing get sorted out
    in a group ride.

    You do realise that the majority of people here have already
    ridden with other people on the group, don't you? There are
    ""group get-togethers"" throughout the world. The difference
    is, we just want to ride with each other on nice trails, not
    settle scores. I think this final point probably illustrates
    our differences of opinion rather well.

    --
    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    b.bmx FAQ: t-online.debmx faq.htm

  16. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:23:25 -0400, Dan Volker wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    You do realise that the majority of people here have
    already ridden with other people on the group, don't you?
    There are ""group get-togethers"" throughout the world.
    The difference is, we just want to ride with each other
    on nice trails, not settle scores. I think this final
    point probably illustrates our differences of opinion
    rather well.

    You may see this as "settling scores". I don't. My guess
    would be that in virtually every case, when you have people
    who have been in a heated usenet debate, actually getting
    together, the result will be friendly and amicable. In the
    case of this mountain biking group and the threads argued
    about, it would be more of an understanding what each other
    means..a semantics type thing, and after riding with them,
    having a better idea of why they sound the way they do with
    their posts. No matter how much of a challenge I may have
    aimed at JD, when I do get the chance to ride with him, I am
    going to be planning on a fun trip, and I'm going to expect
    him to be alot more enjoyable to ride with in real life,
    than to talk to on the NG. Any challenge would be relatively
    unimportant, the enjoyment of the ride would be the big
    issue. I'm enjoying talking smack about SSers too much, to
    let a little thing like who actually wins the challenge to
    concern me :-) But of course, if JD was on a SS at Quiet
    Waters, I would also enjoy having to wait for him to catch
    up every 5 minutes or so :-)

    Dan V

  17. bomba said:
    Dan Volker said:

    Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's
    [censored].

    I was going to point out the anatomical flaws in this
    concept, but it got me thinking. When do pubic hairs
    become anal crack hairs? The hairs around the varse/barse
    (perineum) - what category do they fall in to?

    Maybe Danny is fantasizing that he left some genuine
    ones there?

    Bill "regrets contemplating that" S.

  18. bomba <[email hidden]> had this to say
    "]news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Dan Volker said:

    Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's
    [censored].

    I was going to point out the anatomical flaws in this
    concept, but it got me thinking. When do pubic hairs
    become anal crack hairs? The hairs around the varse/barse
    (perineum) - what category do they fall in to?

    Do you really want this to be one of those "things that make
    you say hmm?" dealios

  19. "Dan Volker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The people who resemble either of these two the most,
    don't think THE


    SPORT

    Quoted message said:

    OF MOUNTAIN BIKING should be enjoyed any other way than
    their approach.

    Dan, your ability to remain utterly clueleess is simply
    astounding!

  20. "Dan Volker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TBF said:

    Everyone wants to be the man in their own hood.
    Alt.MTB is obviously


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thing, but it's you groupies that make me laugh. Your
    so eager to kiss


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ass that your probably staking out the bathrooms in
    his town.


    Quoted message said:

    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pompous cockheads like you and Dan V.

    Greg

    Greg, pull your nose out of the pubic hairs in JD's
    [censored]. You don't


    even

    Quoted message said:

    know what the real argument has been about, even though
    you have been chiming in from the start. Aside from the
    backslapping among you and the other circle jerkers, the
    dispute has little to do with good mountain biking....the
    dispute is much more about two views of the sport. There
    is the SS group, that thinks REAL MOUNTAINBIKING is about
    simplifying, lightening, spending less, and somehow
    getting back to basics ( and of course, forgetting that
    hiking would be the ultimate extension of this)....

    that there is no "SS group"? Once you realize that you may
    just start getting it.

    Greg

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