Jan's new style ?

Sandy said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one
of the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All
the time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

He's doping?

Sandy said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one
of the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All
the time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

Maybe his front derailleur or gear cables are broken ?

Donald Munro said:

Sandy said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one
of the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All
the time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

Maybe his front derailleur or gear cables are broken ?

Is he behind a semi-trailer?

Jan's cadence is not as low as people think, but he is always been
shown next to Lance, especially shown in split frames during TT's.

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I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one of
the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All the
time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

First, you mere mortals must kneel and make honour to The Jan, before you
mention his name.

Secondly, The Jan is only cruising in this Tour de Mortadella called Giro.
It is only logical, that The Jan must spin with the higher rpms to melt the
hundreds of the äpfelstrüdels that The Jan has been munching in his the
winter (and spring) holidays.

More of The Information can be found here: http://myspace.com/kaiserjan

😉
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Unlucky Alf from The Fast Show

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Sandy said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one
of the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All
the time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

He's doping?

Impossible!

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Quoted message said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one of
the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All the
time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take is
that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

Tom Kunich said:

They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take is
that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

dumbass,

do some math.

Sandy said:

Quoted message said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one of
the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All the
time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

Tom Kunich said:

They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take is
that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

If my memory serves me correctly you were the one who said that one only
requires a 13 in a sprint ? I'm sure greg aka pomeranian aka Pudd'nhead
might recall.

Speaking of Jan's style, I noticed this in cyclingnews' live coverage
today: 17:16 CEST
Bruseghin continues to lead the peloton, 1'00 behind the break. It's
also on the small climb. Ullrich is still there, towards the back of
the bunch, getting out of the saddle a lot.

I remember him as staying seated on almost everything!

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Sandy said:

Quoted message said:

I'm watching the group moving up on the 3 in the break. Ullrich is one
of
the T-M riders, and he is turning pedals not less than 120 rpm. All the
time. Anyone have an idea what's up ?

Tom Kunich said:

They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take is
that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

If my memory serves me correctly you were the one who said that one only
requires a 13 in a sprint ? I'm sure greg aka pomeranian aka Pudd'nhead
might recall.

Anyone else would have remembered that comment was for a beginning Cat 5.
But not you. It must be the [censored] where everyone else has a brain.

On 05/13/2006 07:44 PM, in article
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Anyone else would have remembered that comment was for a beginning Cat 5.
But not you. It must be the [censored] where everyone else has a brain.

As opposed to your [censored]-for-brains.

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Jeff C said:

Speaking of Jan's style, I noticed this in cyclingnews' live coverage
today: 17:16 CEST
Bruseghin continues to lead the peloton, 1'00 behind the break. It's
also on the small climb. Ullrich is still there, towards the back of
the bunch, getting out of the saddle a lot.

I remember him as staying seated on almost everything!

I don't ever remember seeing him stand except at the start of a time trial.

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trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
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Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take is
that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

If my memory serves me correctly you were the one who said that one only
requires a 13 in a sprint ? I'm sure greg aka pomeranian aka Pudd'nhead
might recall.

Tom Kunich said:

Anyone else would have remembered that comment was for a beginning Cat 5.

Well since you are rbr's one and only permanent cat 5 pro I suppose I must
defer to your expertise.

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Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My
> take is that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

If my memory serves me correctly you were the one who said that one
only requires a 13 in a sprint ? I'm sure greg aka pomeranian aka
Pudd'nhead might recall.

Tom Kunich said:

Anyone else would have remembered that comment was for a beginning
Cat 5.

Well since you are rbr's one and only permanent cat 5 pro I suppose I
must defer to your expertise.

LOL nice one.

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Tom Kunich said:

Quoted message said:

> They were reporting over 50 kph in the run-up to that sprint. My take
> is
> that he was maxed out on the big ring and small cog.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

If my memory serves me correctly you were the one who said that one only
requires a 13 in a sprint ? I'm sure greg aka pomeranian aka Pudd'nhead
might recall.

Tom Kunich said:

Anyone else would have remembered that comment was for a beginning Cat 5.

Well since you are rbr's one and only permanent cat 5 pro I suppose I must
defer to your expertise.

Well, I keep forgetting that aside from Kevin himself, Sleepy John Leiswyn
and Adam Meyers 1that all of you real experts agreed that a beginning Cat 5
racer HAD to have an 11 tooth or he was just wasting his time.

That's why it's always nice to have you guys with such great memories
around - you keep reminding us of these things.

Jan only grinds gears when he is under pressure either about to blow or
(even worse) trying to recover after blowing up. Look at old tapes or
DVDs of the few tours where he won over all or at least a stage. I
remember when I saw his first Tour stage win in the mountains, he rode
away from (now known as doped to the gills) Virenque and I think at
least another Festina (pre-bust, in 1997) climber (one of the Swiss
guys I think) and he was spinning like any other great climber.

The thing is that all riders grind when they are getting ready to blow
but still need as much speed as they can get. Ullrich is thought to be
a grinder only b because of the large volumes of video footage of him
on the verge of blowing up trying to chase Lance. How do these
commentators keep from saying anything truly informed or at least
something new? I don't know.

I suppose Lance being the man that put the sword to poor Jan those 5
times after having adopted an attacking style which revealed him
maintaining a slightly higher than typical cadence rate during his
initial attack and some times while maintaining that gap meant that of
those in the camera's view during the closing and naturally most
visible portions of the race meant that in order to KISS, the
commentators found themselves emphasizing over and over again something
that should have been obvious to anyone that really pays attention to
cycling form and competitions.

In summary, Jan grind when he is about to blow and he has spent more
time at "red line" than perhaps any other cyclist!

If Jan wins anything this year, it will be attributed to the myth about
his cadence, that he "finally learned" and if he loses (not hard to
imagine) it will be because he is fat and can't spin. The truth is he
can't spin when he is too heavy because...I already explained.

I thought everyone already knew this.

Whoah now Chris: Yes, Jan did all that when he was a young slim version of
the '98 Jan who made himself look really foolish. He came into the Tour
believing that he was unbeatable and Pantani dope or no dope would have
wiped up the ground with him.

Since '98 he's been overweight, puffy cheeked and undertrained most years.
Now it's very hard to criticize the training methods of a man who finished
second a million times, but I think that if he had concentrated more on his
training and less on his enjoying life that he would have beaten Lance on at
least two occasions.

Of course it's always easy to Monday morning quarterback, but from what I've
seen Jan has been a grinder all along and since '98 he's been undertrained
and grinding. When you're spot on your target weight and trained up even
when you grind you're still spinning pretty good.

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Jan only grinds gears when he is under pressure either about to blow or
(even worse) trying to recover after blowing up. Look at old tapes or
DVDs of the few tours where he won over all or at least a stage. I
remember when I saw his first Tour stage win in the mountains, he rode
away from (now known as doped to the gills) Virenque and I think at
least another Festina (pre-bust, in 1997) climber (one of the Swiss
guys I think) and he was spinning like any other great climber.

The thing is that all riders grind when they are getting ready to blow
but still need as much speed as they can get. Ullrich is thought to be
a grinder only b because of the large volumes of video footage of him
on the verge of blowing up trying to chase Lance. How do these
commentators keep from saying anything truly informed or at least
something new? I don't know.

I suppose Lance being the man that put the sword to poor Jan those 5
times after having adopted an attacking style which revealed him
maintaining a slightly higher than typical cadence rate during his
initial attack and some times while maintaining that gap meant that of
those in the camera's view during the closing and naturally most
visible portions of the race meant that in order to KISS, the
commentators found themselves emphasizing over and over again something
that should have been obvious to anyone that really pays attention to
cycling form and competitions.

In summary, Jan grind when he is about to blow and he has spent more
time at "red line" than perhaps any other cyclist!

If Jan wins anything this year, it will be attributed to the myth about
his cadence, that he "finally learned" and if he loses (not hard to
imagine) it will be because he is fat and can't spin. The truth is he
can't spin when he is too heavy because...I already explained.

I thought everyone already knew this.

Like many riders Jan's cadence slows down when he was tired.
Maintaining a high rpm takes a lot practice and concentration
especially when a rider is tired.