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  1. So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman distances
    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a 4-bagger"
    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of 4 IV
    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial last
    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration through IV
    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water. Anyone
    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    Dave

  2. On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:15:53 -0400, "Dave" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman distances
    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a 4-bagger"
    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of 4 IV
    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial last
    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration through IV
    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water. Anyone
    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    Peloton? Which sport are you talking about. In terms of rules, read
    the rule book of the sport in question. In terms of practice, yes, in
    cycling at high levels IVs are used -- saline and sometimes I think
    aspirin solutions.

    JT

  3. in article [email hidden], Dave at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 5:15 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman distances
    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a 4-bagger"
    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of 4 IV
    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial last
    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration through IV
    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water. Anyone
    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    I know right off the bat you didn't watch the Tour last year, because Lance
    Armstrong did exactly this after the Gaillac time trial when he lost a huge
    amount of weight through dehydration.

    -Sonarrat.

  4. "Sonarrat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in article [email hidden], Dave at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 5:15 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman


    distances

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a


    4-bagger"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of


    4 IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial


    last

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration


    through IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water.


    Anyone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    I know right off the bat you didn't watch the Tour last year, because


    Lance

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong did exactly this after the Gaillac time trial when he lost a


    huge

    Quoted message said:

    amount of weight through dehydration.

    How would watching the Tour last year reveal his use of IV to assist
    rehydration? I missed it if they did show it.

    Quoted message said:


    -Sonarrat.

  5. On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:14:23 -0700, Sonarrat <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration through IV
    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water. Anyone
    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    I know right off the bat you didn't watch the Tour last year, because Lance
    Armstrong did exactly this after the Gaillac time trial when he lost a huge
    amount of weight through dehydration.

    Its an every other year thing at the Tour de
    Toona/International/Whatever they call it this year for the women. The
    day the road race loop start/finish is in Hollidaysburg seems to
    invite weather that does a job on them. The IVs are done in an
    assembly line on main street. Since some of them start the next day
    and there are officials in the 'IV pit', I doubt there is anything
    illegal. Altoona must be at least a B race, but I don't know if its at
    the level of using UCI rules.

    Two years ago a couple of women seemed to be unconscious when they
    crossed the line at Hollidaysburg. Wonder exactly how they kept the
    curtain up until they managed to finish.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  6. Yes, I'm legal.

    -ilan

  7. Sorry; couldn't get OLNTV on my cable system till this year. Blame
    Adelphia...
    I listened to it on the web though; does that count?

    "Sonarrat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in article [email hidden], Dave at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 5:15 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman


    distances

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a


    4-bagger"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of


    4 IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial


    last

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration


    through IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water.


    Anyone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    I know right off the bat you didn't watch the Tour last year, because


    Lance

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong did exactly this after the Gaillac time trial when he lost a


    huge

    Quoted message said:

    amount of weight through dehydration.

    -Sonarrat.

  8. in article [email hidden], Chris at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 11:01 AM:

    Quoted message said:


    "Sonarrat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in article [email hidden], Dave at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 5:15 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    So I've got some friends who do long distance triathlons; Ironman


    distances

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and the like. One of the thinigs I hear mentioned is "that was a


    4-bagger"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meaning that upon finishing, thjey were so depleted they had a total of


    4 IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bags to get them rehydrated. Got me to thinking of Lance's time trial


    last

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year, when he really dehydrated, and how he said it would take a day or
    three for his body to rehydrate properly.

    So I was wondering; doping is illegal, but what about rehydration


    through IV

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saline as the tri-geeks do? Is that legal? It's just salt water.


    Anyone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know if this is at all practiced in the peloton?

    I know right off the bat you didn't watch the Tour last year, because


    Lance

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong did exactly this after the Gaillac time trial when he lost a


    huge

    Quoted message said:

    amount of weight through dehydration.

    How would watching the Tour last year reveal his use of IV to assist
    rehydration? I missed it if they did show it.

    They didn't show it, but it was mentioned several times in the coverage. He
    lost an ungodly amount of weight during the Gaillac ITT and used IVs to help
    rehydrate himself over the next few nights.

    -Sonarrat.

  9. in article [email hidden], Dave at
    [email hidden] wrote on 7/15/04 4:21 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry; couldn't get OLNTV on my cable system till this year. Blame
    Adelphia...
    I listened to it on the web though; does that count?

    I'm not trying to be nasty. People are just discovering the sport now, and
    I'm glad to see it happen. When I first joined the group it was during the
    Tour de France, too, and only then, gradually, I started to become aware of
    all of the other races on the calendar that do not happen in July...

    -Sonarrat.

  10. Ilan Vardi said:

    Yes, I'm legal.

    But surely with an age restriction ?

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