It's mighty green in SoCal!

terminaut · Jan 24, 2005

Took my favorite hardtail out for a ride yesterday and what a great
day it was to be outdoors. Had a fun jaunt through some local goods,
and rather than photographing our group I focused on taking pictures
of random strangers (I don't know any of the people riding in the
shots). BTW, the one guy crashing is ok.

Curt Bousquet · Jan 24, 2005

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> http://www.fooriders.com/images/rides/green/cimg0710.jpg

Damn you.

Compare and contrast with Southern Vermont yesterday:

http://gallery.scanline.com/temp/Vermont.jpg

Not much above 0 F with a biting windchill.

The trails
weren't packed enough for biking, so I was out on X-country
skiis.

Trade?

Ride-A-Lot · Jan 25, 2005

terminaut wrote:
> Took my favorite hardtail out for a ride yesterday and what a great
> day it was to be outdoors. Had a fun jaunt through some local goods,
> and rather than photographing our group I focused on taking pictures
> of random strangers (I don't know any of the people riding in the
> shots). BTW, the one guy crashing is ok.

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Curt Bousquet" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Damn you.
>
> Compare and contrast with Southern Vermont yesterday:
>
> http://gallery.scanline.com/temp/Vermont.jpg
>
> Not much above 0 F with a biting windchill.

The trails
> weren't packed enough for biking, so I was out on X-country
> skiis.

Wow... I can't fathom that type of temperature. Kudos to you for getting out
and making the best of it. Do you have to wear eye protection to keep them
from freezing?

> Trade?

Give me a few months to think about it... ;-)

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Is that Rockit? I don't remember it being that rutted.

It's actually Stair Steps, and is in great condition considering all the
rain. Most of the trail is similar to the rocky section of Rockit (but more
technical) and is reminiscent of SoMo. It's the "mildest" of the backside
trails at Aliso.

> Wow! The whole canyon wasn't that green last year at this time.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4vbup

It's definitely more more lush this year. We're doing trail maintenance in
the mountains next weekend and I can't wait to check out all the water and
growth. Hopefully I'll be able to get a greener version of this shot this
year:

http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=27&viewkey=

> I'll be out in the O.C. in about a month for pre-con and I definately
> think I'll be adding a day to the stay

If you've got the legs it's always a good idea to extend the stay.

There are lots of great riding, whether you prefer mountains or hills.

Chris Glidden · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Is that Rockit? I don't remember it being that rutted.
>
> It's actually Stair Steps, and is in great condition considering all the
> rain. Most of the trail is similar to the rocky section of Rockit (but
> more technical) and is reminiscent of SoMo. It's the "mildest" of the
> backside trails at Aliso.
>
>> Wow! The whole canyon wasn't that green last year at this time.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4vbup
>
> It's definitely more more lush this year. We're doing trail maintenance in
> the mountains next weekend and I can't wait to check out all the water and
> growth. Hopefully I'll be able to get a greener version of this shot this
> year:
>
> http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=27&viewkey=
>
>> I'll be out in the O.C. in about a month for pre-con and I definately
>> think I'll be adding a day to the stay
>
> If you've got the legs it's always a good idea to extend the stay.

> There are lots of great riding, whether you prefer mountains or hills.
I was under the impression Aliso/Wood Canyon was going to be closed until at
least this weekend (this according to Dean Stepper who spoke with the
rangers). Was it actually open or were you guys poaching? If it's open I
should have been there, it's been way too long since I've been on my bike.

Curt Bousquet · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]>
wrote let it be known in
news:[email protected]:

> "Curt Bousquet" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Damn you.
>>
>> Compare and contrast with Southern Vermont yesterday:
>>
>> http://gallery.scanline.com/temp/Vermont.jpg
>>
>> Not much above 0 F with a biting windchill.

The trails
>> weren't packed enough for biking, so I was out on
>> X-country skiis.
>
> Wow... I can't fathom that type of temperature. Kudos to
> you for getting out and making the best of it. Do you have
> to wear eye protection to keep them from freezing?

Dressing right for that kind of weather is an artform. If you
are warm when you start, then you are probably going to
overheat once you get going, and you DON'T want to sweat.

I was pretty cold for the first 15 minutes, but by the time my
body warmed up the rest of the trip was fine. The only worry
is stopping. Stops of any more than a few minutes get cold
very quickly.

All I had on Sunday was a pair of bike tights, two layers of
bike jersey, fleece vest, jacket and wool cap. I didn't have
any kind of eye protection on then since it is a real problem
when it gets fogged up, though on some days glasses are a must
when the wind is directly in your face.

About this time last year, the group I bike with did a 1.5
hour night ride at -8F. With the 'windchill' the local papers
were reporting it at -40F. We haven't hit those temps. this
year (yet) but I'm kind of looking forward to it... or at
least the beer and food after the ride.

PS: You can see copies of TWO local newspapers that wrote
stories about the ride at this link (scroll down the page to
Jan. 15th):

http://www.scanline.com/bikelog/2004.html

--
Curt Bousquet

Road & Mtn biking in Southern VT and Western Mass.

My 2005 bike log:
http://www.scanline.com/bikelog/2005.html

Chris Glidden · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Is that Rockit? I don't remember it being that rutted.
>
> It's actually Stair Steps, and is in great condition considering all the
> rain. Most of the trail is similar to the rocky section of Rockit (but
> more technical) and is reminiscent of SoMo. It's the "mildest" of the
> backside trails at Aliso.
>
>> Wow! The whole canyon wasn't that green last year at this time.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4vbup
>
> It's definitely more more lush this year. We're doing trail maintenance in
> the mountains next weekend and I can't wait to check out all the water and
> growth. Hopefully I'll be able to get a greener version of this shot this
> year:
>
> http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=27&viewkey=
>
>> I'll be out in the O.C. in about a month for pre-con and I definately
>> think I'll be adding a day to the stay
>
> If you've got the legs it's always a good idea to extend the stay.

> There are lots of great riding, whether you prefer mountains or hills.
>
I just checked, it's open. Woohoo. Time to get out there before the rains
hit tomorrow.

Paladin · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Took my favorite hardtail out for a ride yesterday and what a great
> day it was to be outdoors. Had a fun jaunt through some local goods,
> and rather than photographing our group I focused on taking pictures
> of random strangers (I don't know any of the people riding in the
> shots). BTW, the one guy crashing is ok.

>
> >
> Gratuitous bike shot...
>
> http://www.fooriders.com/images/rides/green/cimg0741.jpg

Nice stuff. Here's what we've got:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?s=0cfd9b9ceaf3163f9405e96a64b5a722&t=74097

paladin

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was under the impression Aliso/Wood Canyon was going to be closed until
> at least this weekend (this according to Dean Stepper who spoke with the
> rangers). Was it actually open or were you guys poaching? If it's open I
> should have been there, it's been way too long since I've been on my bike.

It's been open since last Friday. It's always best to get the information
from a reputable/trustworthy source (I've never thought about checking with
"Dean Stepper" and am glad I didn't).. For Aliso, here's one of the places
you can check:

http://www.ocparks.com/alisoandwoodcanyons/

Chris Glidden · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I was under the impression Aliso/Wood Canyon was going to be closed until
>> at least this weekend (this according to Dean Stepper who spoke with the
>> rangers). Was it actually open or were you guys poaching? If it's open
>> I should have been there, it's been way too long since I've been on my
>> bike.
>
> It's been open since last Friday. It's always best to get the information
> from a reputable/trustworthy source (I've never thought about checking
> with "Dean Stepper" and am glad I didn't).. For Aliso, here's one of the
> places you can check:
>
> http://www.ocparks.com/alisoandwoodcanyons/
>
>
He apparently had spoken to the rangers and I would think they were
reputable. Work must have gone quicker than anticipated. I actually
checked on SoCalMTB.com. One of the rangers post there and lo and behold:
Open. I'm sorry I missed riding last weekend.

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Paladin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nice stuff. Here's what we've got:
>
> http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?s=0cfd9b9ceaf3163f9405e96a64b5a722&t=74097
>
> paladin
>

Depending on the temps, that looks like something I'd enjoy. I bought some
studded Nokians in anticipating (hoping for) some icy riding but haven't had
a chance yet. Looks like a fun experience!

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Curt Bousquet" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> http://www.scanline.com/bikelog/2004.html
>

Great writing!

"Severe cold", "Record-Breaking low temperatures", "Dangerous Windchills",
"Don't leave the house tonight if you don't have to!"...

It would _seem_ that going outside wasn't a good idea... let alone ride!

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote:
> He apparently had spoken to the rangers and I would think they were
> reputable.

I'm just ribbin' you for jumping to conclusions based on hearsay.

> One of the rangers post there and lo and behold: Open.

Although those guys are good rangers to (generally) get information from,
those aren't the actual rangers of the park...

Paladin · Jan 25, 2005

"terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Paladin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nice stuff. Here's what we've got:
>>
>> http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?s=0cfd9b9ceaf3163f9405e96a64b5a722&t=74097
>>
>> paladin
>>
>
> Depending on the temps, that looks like something I'd enjoy. I bought some
> studded Nokians in anticipating (hoping for) some icy riding but haven't
> had a chance yet. Looks like a fun experience!
I'm going out this afternoon close to town, but am limited to the trails
hard and frozen enough to be rideable, and not so icey as to risk major
owwies. but that said, I'm quite jacked to be off the trainer and actually
riding (even a little) this time of year.

paladin

Dean A. Stepper · Jan 25, 2005

"Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is that Rockit? I don't remember it being that rutted.
>>
>> It's actually Stair Steps, and is in great condition considering all the
>> rain. Most of the trail is similar to the rocky section of Rockit (but
>> more technical) and is reminiscent of SoMo. It's the "mildest" of the
>> backside trails at Aliso.
>>
>>> Wow! The whole canyon wasn't that green last year at this time.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/4vbup
>>
>> It's definitely more more lush this year. We're doing trail maintenance
>> in the mountains next weekend and I can't wait to check out all the water
>> and growth. Hopefully I'll be able to get a greener version of this shot
>> this year:
>>
>> http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=27&viewkey=
>>
>>> I'll be out in the O.C. in about a month for pre-con and I definately
>>> think I'll be adding a day to the stay
>>
>> If you've got the legs it's always a good idea to extend the stay.

>> There are lots of great riding, whether you prefer mountains or hills.
> I was under the impression Aliso/Wood Canyon was going to be closed until
> at least this weekend (this according to Dean Stepper who spoke with the
> rangers). Was it actually open or were you guys poaching? If it's open I
> should have been there, it's been way too long since I've been on my bike.
>
Chris, Laguna Wilderness and El Moro were closed to bikes but they opened
Aliso Woods last weekend. Still muddy in spots and major damage at the
bottom of Mathis. Rode there Sunday. Saturday did San Gabriel's,
Strawberry Peak Trail.

Chris Glidden · Jan 25, 2005

"Dean A. Stepper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "terminaut" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:[email protected]...
>>> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is that Rockit? I don't remember it being that rutted.
>>>
>>> It's actually Stair Steps, and is in great condition considering all the
>>> rain. Most of the trail is similar to the rocky section of Rockit (but
>>> more technical) and is reminiscent of SoMo. It's the "mildest" of the
>>> backside trails at Aliso.
>>>
>>>> Wow! The whole canyon wasn't that green last year at this time.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/4vbup
>>>
>>> It's definitely more more lush this year. We're doing trail maintenance
>>> in the mountains next weekend and I can't wait to check out all the
>>> water and growth. Hopefully I'll be able to get a greener version of
>>> this shot this year:
>>>
>>> http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=27&viewkey=
>>>
>>>> I'll be out in the O.C. in about a month for pre-con and I definately
>>>> think I'll be adding a day to the stay
>>>
>>> If you've got the legs it's always a good idea to extend the stay.

>>> There are lots of great riding, whether you prefer mountains or hills.
>> I was under the impression Aliso/Wood Canyon was going to be closed until
>> at least this weekend (this according to Dean Stepper who spoke with the
>> rangers). Was it actually open or were you guys poaching? If it's open
>> I should have been there, it's been way too long since I've been on my
>> bike.
>>
> Chris, Laguna Wilderness and El Moro were closed to bikes but they opened
> Aliso Woods last weekend. Still muddy in spots and major damage at the
> bottom of Mathis. Rode there Sunday. Saturday did San Gabriel's,
> Strawberry Peak Trail.
I'm going to go for a spin today before the rains come back

terminaut · Jan 25, 2005

"Dean A. Stepper" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris, Laguna Wilderness and El Moro were closed to bikes but they opened
> Aliso Woods last weekend.

Actually... I also rode Laguna Wilderness last Sunday (it was open). El Moro
is indeed closed, however.

Bruce Edge · Jan 25, 2005

terminaut wrote:
> Took my favorite hardtail out for a ride yesterday and what a great
> day it was to be outdoors. Had a fun jaunt through some local goods,
> and rather than photographing our group I focused on taking pictures
> of random strangers (I don't know any of the people riding in the
> shots). BTW, the one guy crashing is ok.

>
> Gratuitous bike shot...
>
> http://www.fooriders.com/images/rides/green/cimg0741.jpg
>
>
> View this post with images inline at:
> http://www.fooriders.com/webmain/name-PNphpBB2-viewtopic-p-146188-t-40965.html
>
>
>

Sweet pics.
Great looking trails.

-Bruce

Slacker · Jan 25, 2005

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:04:32 -0800, terminaut
<[email protected]> wrote:

> "Dean A. Stepper" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Chris, Laguna Wilderness and El Moro were closed to bikes but they
>> opened
>> Aliso Woods last weekend.
>
> Actually... I also rode Laguna Wilderness last Sunday (it was open). El
> Moro
> is indeed closed, however.
>
>
>
Sheesh, now we know who to check with.

Dean!Q%$%^@^!!!!

--
Slacker

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