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  1. Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.
    I came across the PattStrap product in the ITBS.info site (
    http://www.itbs.info/html/products.html ) and wanted to know if you
    know if it really works. I have tried several different stretches and
    Ice treatments with little relief. The ITBS site has a link to the
    manufactor's site where I could order it but, I found a good price on
    the PattStrap at http://www.pattstrap.com with free shipping but would
    like some feedback before I order.

    I was also looking at the PSC product to help with my Shin splints,
    Has anyone tried that one for the shin splints.

    Thanks,

    John.

  2. Is that the electric one with the 12" extension? Get the enhanced
    "Jackhammer" model, it's the best.

    [email hidden] (John Thompson) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.
    I came across the PattStrap product in the ITBS.info site (
    http://www.itbs.info/html/products.html ) and wanted to know if you
    know if it really works. I have tried several different stretches and
    Ice treatments with little relief. The ITBS site has a link to the
    manufactor's site where I could order it but, I found a good price on
    the PattStrap at http://www.pattstrap.com with free shipping but would
    like some feedback before I order.

    I was also looking at the PSC product to help with my Shin splints,
    Has anyone tried that one for the shin splints.

    Thanks,

    John.

  3. [email hidden] (John Thompson) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.

    to help with my Shin splints,

    Quoted message said:

    Christ sakes, you're a mess man. How old are you? Like 89?

  4. I had ITBS and tried this. My experience was it needed to be really tight to
    work, almost to the point that it hurt/restricted circulation and then
    loosening it caused it not to work. So I can't recommend them, but
    apparently someone, somewhere has had luck with it.

    "John Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.
    I came across the PattStrap product in the ITBS.info site (
    http://www.itbs.info/html/products.html ) and wanted to know if you
    know if it really works. I have tried several different stretches and
    Ice treatments with little relief. The ITBS site has a link to the
    manufactor's site where I could order it but, I found a good price on
    the PattStrap at http://www.pattstrap.com with free shipping but would
    like some feedback before I order.

    I was also looking at the PSC product to help with my Shin splints,
    Has anyone tried that one for the shin splints.

    Thanks,

    John.

  5. So how big are they Tek?

    "teknofyle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I had ITBS and tried this. My experience was it needed to be really tight to
    work, almost to the point that it hurt/restricted circulation and then
    loosening it caused it not to work. So I can't recommend them, but
    apparently someone, somewhere has had luck with it.

    "John Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.
    I came across the PattStrap product in the ITBS.info site (
    http://www.itbs.info/html/products.html ) and wanted to know if you
    know if it really works. I have tried several different stretches and
    Ice treatments with little relief. The ITBS site has a link to the
    manufactor's site where I could order it but, I found a good price on
    the PattStrap at http://www.pattstrap.com with free shipping but would
    like some feedback before I order.

    I was also looking at the PSC product to help with my Shin splints,
    Has anyone tried that one for the shin splints.

    Thanks,

    John.

  6. [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>, John

    Thompson said:

    Hi,

    I am new to the group and I have had ITBS pain for several months now.
    I came across the PattStrap product in the ITBS.info site (
    http://www.itbs.info/html/products.html ) and wanted to know if you
    know if it really works. I have tried several different stretches and
    Ice treatments with little relief. The ITBS site has a link to the
    manufactor's site where I could order it but, I found a good price on
    the PattStrap at http://www.pattstrap.com with free shipping but would
    like some feedback before I order.

    I was also looking at the PSC product to help with my Shin splints,
    Has anyone tried that one for the shin splints. Thanks, John.

    From some previous posts:

    Check out the picture with the post "Strengthening the Hams & Quads?
    http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp

    Rolling on the outside of the quad, the IT Band is one way to slowly
    and lovingly get some fascial release.

    Remember that if it's the outside where you feel the pain, then more
    than likely your thigh has rotated a little to the outside. That also
    means that the adductors along the inside of the thigh may also be
    shortened.

    Straddle a chair or sit on a low wall with rounded edges which is about
    15 inches wide. Allow the inside of the thighs to slide down the edges
    to slowly work the tightness of the muscles or of the fascia to
    gradually be worked so that the inside thighs are not holding.

    Another way is to sit on the corner of a table so that you are on your
    sitz bones. Allow the legs to hang straight down. The further you sit
    back from the corner, even an inch or two, means that the edges of the
    table are resting on the inside of the thigh near the groin area. This
    is another way to loosen up the inside thighs.

    Loosen up the inside, work on the outside by rolling on them and roll
    on the quads and do the proper stretching of the hams and you'll find
    that the knee pain in most cases will diminish or go away altogether.

    #2:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everyone,

    I can't run because I have ITBS, but is cycling o.k.? can it delay the
    recovery? Thanks...Bernard

    To get an visual understanding check outthe Sports Med Web:
    http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/medtent.1.html

    The article says:

    The iliotibial (IT) band is a tough group of fibers that run along the
    outside of the thigh. The gluteal muscles and the tensor fascia lata
    muscle attach to the top, and the lower part attaches to the tibia,
    just below the knee. It functions primarily as a stabilizer during
    running and can become irritated from overuse. Runners will usually
    describe pain on the outside part of the knee or lower thigh, often
    worsened by going up or down stairs, or getting out of a car.

    Predisposing factors for the development of IT band inflammation
    include training error and abnormal biomechanics.

    Some runners make the mistake of only running on one side of the road.
    Most roads are higher in the center and slope off on either side. The
    foot that is on the outside part of the road is therefore lower than
    the other. This causes the pelvis to tilt to one side and stresses the
    IT band. (Oz editorial: I think the pelvic tilt is already there and
    the cambre of the road may exaggerate a problem that is there. I don't
    see it as a cause effect. The next paragraph explains it well)

    The biomechanical abnormalities that may lead to IT band problems are,
    excessive pronation of the foot, leg length discrepancy, lateral pelvic
    tilt, and "bowed" legs. Tight gluteal or quadriceps muscles may also
    contribute. Video tape
    analysis is a great tool for uncovering biomechanical problems. (Oz ed:
    seems like they are mainly caused by muscular imbalances which lead to
    skeletal misalignments which manifest in the above mentioned
    biomechanical abnormalities)

    Treatment consists of relative rest, ice massage, addressing any
    biomechanical or training errors, and gentle stretching . When doing
    the IT band stretch the "pulling" sensation is usually felt along the
    mid to upper thigh. Don't worry if this doesn't seem to exactly hit the
    site where the pain occurs. The IT band is a long structure and the
    goal is to get it to loosen and lengthen. Along the same lines, gentle
    stretching of the gluteal muscles will also help.

    Prevention of the IT band syndrome is achieved by running on a level
    surface or alternating directions on the road, a balanced approach to
    training which allows for rest and recovery, and preventive stretching.
    In some strengthening the external hip rotators will help. This is
    achieved by doing sets of one leg squats in front of a mirror. Watch
    pelvic alignment to ensure that one side does not drop. Finally,
    orthotics can be quite useful if you have a tendency to develop IT band
    inflammation. (End of article)

    Check the gutter rolling picture at: http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp

    The IT band is located laterally (on the side) between the quads on the
    anterior (front) and the gluts and hams on the posterior(back) side.

    If the gluts are too tight, the hamstrings are shortened by bad sitting
    posture, the quads are tightened by imbalanced standing posture, the
    end result is a rotation of the thigh (femur) to the outside. When
    that becomes chronic, you can see it in the splay of the way most of us
    stand \/ rather than || with our feet. You can turn your feet inward
    but it comes from all the stuff going on in the pelvic and thigh areas.

    You can roll the quads as seen in the pictures at
    http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp. But remember that the body is a
    system. So don't neglect the inside thigh (adductor) muscles. You
    need to massage and work those muscles loose also.

    Straddle a stool, or chair so that the sides of the stool/chair/ smooth
    cornered low wall, bench, and allow the edges of the stool, chair or
    whatever,and let the inside thigh muscles slide down the edges to work
    and loosen the inside thigh muscles so that they let go. This helps
    in the work you've done on the rolling of the quads or stretching the
    hams.

    This is another post from last year that may also help as it repeats
    the above in another way:

    Check out the picture with the post "Strengthening the Hams & Quads?
    http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp

    Rolling on the outside of the quad, the IT Band is one way to slowly
    and lovingly get some fascial release.

    Remember that if it's the outside where you feel the pain, then more
    than likely your thigh has rotated a little to the outside. That also
    means that the adductors along the inside of the thigh may also be
    shortened.

    Straddle a chair or sit on a low wall with rounded edges which is about
    15 inches wide. Allow the inside of the thighs to slide down the edges
    to slowly work the tightness of the muscles or of the fascia to
    gradually be worked so that the inside thighs are not holding.

    Another way is to sit on the corner of a table so that you are on your
    sitz bones. Allow the legs to hang straight down. The further you sit
    back from the corner, even an inch or two, means that the edges of the
    table are resting on the inside of the thigh near the groin area. This
    is another way to loosen up the inside thighs.

    Loosen up the inside, work on the outside by rolling on them and roll
    on the quads and do the proper stretching of the hams and you'll find
    that the knee pain in most cases will diminish or go away altogether.

    In health and on the run,
    Ozzie Gontang
    Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975
    Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/
    Mindful Running:
    http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp

  7. << PattStrap product >>

    What's that?

    << Rolling on the outside of the quad, the IT Band is one way to slowly
    and lovingly get some fascial release. >>

    Lovingly?
    Really?

    << Straddle a chair or sit on a low wall with rounded edges which is about
    15 inches wide. >>

    Hm.

    << slide down the edges
    to slowly work the tightness of the muscles or of the fascia to
    gradually be worked so that the inside thighs are not holding. >>

    O dear.

    << Another way is to sit on the corner of a table so that you are on your
    sitz bones. >>

    A warm Xerox machine,
    While waiting for copies,
    Is better, or so I have been told
    By a well-respected writer.

    [Hey Besty Lerner!
    In fact, as I recall, so long ago,
    When Betsy passed along this hot tip,
    Peter Davidson was coming up the stairs...
    ca. 1991, John Herman was around the corner.]

    << means that the edges of the
    table are resting on the inside of the thigh near the groin area. >>

    O DEAR.

    MAMA
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