It works the same in any country

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

TC

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

TC

["Followup-To:" header set to misc.fitness.weights.]

Lyle McDonald said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

What sham?
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10143

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

--
-aj

"Lyle McDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Was the war the right thing to do no, but it would be a mistake to admit it
so. I want other countries scared [censored] now that we have done it. I want
want Iran and others to think twice about doing something. I say pull out
immediately and target Iran or Syria. It is obvious that more is needed ie
Israel does. Go in and get out and then go in and get out. You have to take
out the people doing it ie war and not just pure talk like Kerry.
No terrorists in the world is afraid of Kerry and if he wins then he must
show that he can kick ass. He might be like Bush who said that he was not
into country building before he was elected and then goes nation building.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

TC

Lyle McDonald <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

TC

People need to wake up to the fact that the highest levels of US
government were fully complicit in the 911 attacks. The evidence is
clear and overwhelming. It simply is not reported or disgust in the
corporate media and one must seek it out but it is there. When all
the facts and evidence is gathered one has to deny reality in order to
believe the fiction about 911 that most people believe. The sad thing
is most people simply do not know all the facts but I believe any
rational person who investigates will come to the only real
conclusion.

The most comprehensive and detailed investigation to date on 911 can
be found in Mike Rupert's book Crossing the Rubicon. It is unmatched
in its accumulation of meticulously documented facts that totally
blows away the government fiction. I challenge anyone who does not
believe the truth about 911 to read it and then make their own
judgment after they have all the evidence.

The original post talked about telling the people that they are under
attack. I didn't say anything about Iraq.

"Lyle McDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with anyone
who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

***

TC

"Wolfbrother" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Lyle McDonald <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
>the same in any country."
>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
>
>***
>
>TC

People need to wake up to the fact that the highest levels of US
government were fully complicit in the 911 attacks. The evidence is
clear and overwhelming. It simply is not reported or disgust in the
corporate media and one must seek it out but it is there. When all
the facts and evidence is gathered one has to deny reality in order to
believe the fiction about 911 that most people believe. The sad thing
is most people simply do not know all the facts but I believe any
rational person who investigates will come to the only real
conclusion.

The most comprehensive and detailed investigation to date on 911 can
be found in Mike Rupert's book Crossing the Rubicon. It is unmatched
in its accumulation of meticulously documented facts that totally
blows away the government fiction. I challenge anyone who does not
believe the truth about 911 to read it and then make their own
judgment after they have all the evidence.

And I might just add that it was largely the work of the same team that
faked the evidence of the moon landings.

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Lyle McDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Was the war the right thing to do no, but it would be a mistake to admit it
so.

That doesn't make any sense. Admitting a mistake is statemanship, not
making the mistake in the first place is leadership. Having an elected
commander in chief who is completely lacking both of these qualities
and then re-electing him will make you all look like complete idiots.

Quoted message said:

I want other countries scared [censored] now that we have done it.

Every country in the world is scared [censored] about where the US is
heading. Especially those countries that have been historically
friendly to the US and who value democracy.

I want

Quoted message said:

want Iran and others to think twice about doing something.

And by threatening them you are giving their leadership all the
reasons they need to arm themselves to the teeth and take a mititary
stance. They then can apply the same logic and approach to governing
that the above quote refers to.

I say pull out

Quoted message said:

immediately and target Iran or Syria. It is obvious that more is needed ie
Israel does. Go in and get out and then go in and get out. You have to take
out the people doing it ie war and not just pure talk like Kerry.

Pull out how? Do you not grasp the reality that the US is now mired in
Iraq and is almost militarily defensely against any other country or
entity that may attack? The war on terrorism has ground to a very slow
pace because you are stuck defending the oil fields of Iraq and the
new oil pipeline being built in afghanistan. Meanwhile the Saudis who
financed 911 and Bush's oil cronies are getting rich from the
instability-fed high oil prices.

Quoted message said:

No terrorists in the world is afraid of Kerry and if he wins then he must
show that he can kick ass. He might be like Bush who said that he was not
into country building before he was elected and then goes nation building.

The Saudi terrorists who financed and committed 911 are buddies of
Bush's. How are they afraid of him when they share the same financial
gains?

TC

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
>the same in any country."
>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
>
>***
>
>TC

(tcomeau) said:

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Lyle McDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green wrote:
> Was 9/11 a special effect?
> Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
> Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Was the war the right thing to do no, but it would be a mistake to admit it
so.

That doesn't make any sense. Admitting a mistake is statemanship, not
making the mistake in the first place is leadership. Having an elected
commander in chief who is completely lacking both of these qualities
and then re-electing him will make you all look like complete idiots.

Quoted message said:

I want other countries scared [censored] now that we have done it.

Every country in the world is scared [censored] about where the US is
heading. Especially those countries that have been historically
friendly to the US and who value democracy.

I want

Quoted message said:

want Iran and others to think twice about doing something.

And by threatening them you are giving their leadership all the
reasons they need to arm themselves to the teeth and take a mititary
stance. They then can apply the same logic and approach to governing
that the above quote refers to.

I say pull out

Quoted message said:

immediately and target Iran or Syria. It is obvious that more is needed ie
Israel does. Go in and get out and then go in and get out. You have to take
out the people doing it ie war and not just pure talk like Kerry.

Pull out how? Do you not grasp the reality that the US is now mired in
Iraq and is almost militarily defensely against any other country or
entity that may attack? The war on terrorism has ground to a very slow
pace because you are stuck defending the oil fields of Iraq and the
new oil pipeline being built in afghanistan. Meanwhile the Saudis who
financed 911 and Bush's oil cronies are getting rich from the
instability-fed high oil prices.

Quoted message said:

No terrorists in the world is afraid of Kerry and if he wins then he must
show that he can kick ass. He might be like Bush who said that he was not
into country building before he was elected and then goes nation building.

The Saudi terrorists who financed and committed 911 are buddies of
Bush's. How are they afraid of him when they share the same financial
gains?

TC

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>
> "tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>
>>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
>>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
>>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
>>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
>>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
>>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
>>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
>>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
>>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
>>the same in any country."
>>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
>>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
>>
>>***
>>
>>TC

ouch. i also wonder... maybe not capturing Osama was one of the best
things to happen to the fear-based administration (bush 'n cheney are
the biggest terrorists IMO).

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:08:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

(tcomeau) said:

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Lyle McDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Ben A. Green wrote:
> > Was 9/11 a special effect?
> > Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
> > Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?
>
> Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?
>
> Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the fact
> that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
> anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?
>
> Lyle

Was the war the right thing to do no, but it would be a mistake to admit it
so.

That doesn't make any sense. Admitting a mistake is statemanship, not
making the mistake in the first place is leadership. Having an elected
commander in chief who is completely lacking both of these qualities
and then re-electing him will make you all look like complete idiots.

Quoted message said:

I want other countries scared [censored] now that we have done it.

Every country in the world is scared [censored] about where the US is
heading. Especially those countries that have been historically
friendly to the US and who value democracy.

I want

Quoted message said:

want Iran and others to think twice about doing something.

And by threatening them you are giving their leadership all the
reasons they need to arm themselves to the teeth and take a mititary
stance. They then can apply the same logic and approach to governing
that the above quote refers to.

I say pull out

Quoted message said:

immediately and target Iran or Syria. It is obvious that more is needed ie
Israel does. Go in and get out and then go in and get out. You have to take
out the people doing it ie war and not just pure talk like Kerry.

Pull out how? Do you not grasp the reality that the US is now mired in
Iraq and is almost militarily defensely against any other country or
entity that may attack? The war on terrorism has ground to a very slow
pace because you are stuck defending the oil fields of Iraq and the
new oil pipeline being built in afghanistan. Meanwhile the Saudis who
financed 911 and Bush's oil cronies are getting rich from the
instability-fed high oil prices.

Quoted message said:

No terrorists in the world is afraid of Kerry and if he wins then he must
show that he can kick ass. He might be like Bush who said that he was not
into country building before he was elected and then goes nation building.

The Saudi terrorists who financed and committed 911 are buddies of
Bush's. How are they afraid of him when they share the same financial
gains?

TC

Quoted message said:

>
> >
> >
> > "tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> >
> >>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
> >>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
> >>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
> >>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
> >>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
> >>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
> >>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
> >>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
> >>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
> >>the same in any country."
> >>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
> >>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
> >>
> >>***
> >>
> >>TC

ouch. i also wonder... maybe not capturing Osama was one of the best
things to happen to the fear-based administration (bush 'n cheney are
the biggest terrorists IMO).

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:48:04 GMT, "Ben A. Green" <[email hidden]>
posted:

Quoted message said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Why do you start there? Why not go back 60 years and study world
history since?

John Hanson said:

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

John Hanson said:

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

"Wolfbrother" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Lyle McDonald <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green said:

Was 9/11 a special effect?
Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the
fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

Quoted message said:

"tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor
>in
>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the
>policy
>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether
>it
>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
>to
>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
>peacemakers
>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
>the same in any country."
>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
>
>***
>
>TC

People need to wake up to the fact that the highest levels of US
government were fully complicit in the 911 attacks. The evidence is
clear and overwhelming. It simply is not reported or disgust in the
corporate media and one must seek it out but it is there. When all
the facts and evidence is gathered one has to deny reality in order to
believe the fiction about 911 that most people believe. The sad thing
is most people simply do not know all the facts but I believe any
rational person who investigates will come to the only real
conclusion.

The most comprehensive and detailed investigation to date on 911 can
be found in Mike Rupert's book Crossing the Rubicon. It is unmatched
in its accumulation of meticulously documented facts that totally
blows away the government fiction. I challenge anyone who does not
believe the truth about 911 to read it and then make their own
judgment after they have all the evidence.

Bush and the rest of his incompetent cronies have built a house of cards
on lies. The real truth is oozing out plus the house of cards is
falling. Mark my word if Bush gets re-elected and the facts hit
mainstream press, you start to hear about impeachment and not for a
misguided naughty blow job.

-DF

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:56:35 GMT, "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]>
posted:

Quoted message said:

"Wolfbrother" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Lyle McDonald <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A. Green wrote:
> Was 9/11 a special effect?
> Did the Madrid subway not blow up?
> Did the Bali nightclub stage a mirage?

Did our invading Iraq have [censored] to do with any of that?

Has our government's complete and utter inability to admit to the
fact
that the war was a sham in the first place, or theier dealing with
anyone who dares criticize it, relate to the paragraph below?

Lyle

>
>
> "tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>
>>"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor
>>in
>>England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
>>after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the
>>policy
>>and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether
>>it
>>is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
>>communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
>>brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
>>to
>>do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
>>peacemakers
>>for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
>>the same in any country."
>>~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
>>Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
>>
>>***
>>
>>TC
>
>

People need to wake up to the fact that the highest levels of US
government were fully complicit in the 911 attacks. The evidence is
clear and overwhelming. It simply is not reported or disgust in the
corporate media and one must seek it out but it is there. When all
the facts and evidence is gathered one has to deny reality in order to
believe the fiction about 911 that most people believe. The sad thing
is most people simply do not know all the facts but I believe any
rational person who investigates will come to the only real
conclusion.

The most comprehensive and detailed investigation to date on 911 can
be found in Mike Rupert's book Crossing the Rubicon. It is unmatched
in its accumulation of meticulously documented facts that totally
blows away the government fiction. I challenge anyone who does not
believe the truth about 911 to read it and then make their own
judgment after they have all the evidence.

Bush and the rest of his incompetent cronies have built a house of cards
on lies. The real truth is oozing out plus the house of cards is
falling. Mark my word if Bush gets re-elected and the facts hit
mainstream press, you start to hear about impeachment and not for a
misguided naughty blow job.

Then there is the poetic justice of letting Bush suffer for his
mismanagement of the economy and endangering of the American populace
that they are bound to find out about soon. Bush will not be able to
escape the consequences if he is still in the Whitehouse. You will
know where to find him :-)

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:15:47 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

You're the member of the party of hate and loathing. The party that
would have a weak America. The party that has Chamberlain and
Quisling types as their heroes.

John Hanson said:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:15:47 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

You're the member of the party of hate and loathing. The party that
would have a weak America. The party that has Chamberlain and
Quisling types as their heroes.

i voted for nader in '00. i knew it was pointless this time so i chose
what i discerned as the lesser of two weevils.

that's not hate and loathing. take a look in the mirror. i wonder
about the "weak" america. and when i say that i do not say it to
support the dems (which you equate with me). but i also do not mean it
in a way to undermine the dems ability to protect this "great" nation
from terrorist (external) harm, just internal criminal harm (your gun
issues).

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:58:32 -0600, John Hanson
<[email hidden]> posted:

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:15:47 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:

http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

You're the member of the party of hate and loathing. The party that
would have a weak America. The party that has Chamberlain and
Quisling types as their heroes.

And you just hate anyone with a different religion and call them all
Arabs and bomb the [censored] out of them? How clever!

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:22:17 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:15:47 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:39:11 -0500, John Hanson
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>You're beginning to [censored] me off! But, I should expect that from a
>member of the DFL. Here, feel good for a while, spit on these:
>
>http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/Military/100_greatest_military_photos.pps
>

you are an evil man, John Hanson. Too bad you have a gun and CCW
license (reflects poorly on MN).

You're the member of the party of hate and loathing. The party that
would have a weak America. The party that has Chamberlain and
Quisling types as their heroes.

i voted for nader in '00. i knew it was pointless this time so i chose
what i discerned as the lesser of two weevils.

A Nader supporter is even worse than Kerry or Gore.

Quoted message said:

that's not hate and loathing. take a look in the mirror. i wonder
about the "weak" america. and when i say that i do not say it to
support the dems (which you equate with me). but i also do not mean it
in a way to undermine the dems ability to protect this "great" nation
from terrorist (external) harm, just internal criminal harm (your gun
issues).

It is hate and loathing when you call the President and Vice President
of this country the biggest terrorists. Were you able to get out and
burn any flags or spit on any veterans today?