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  1. NPR reports that Armstrong will shoot for a 7th Tour. Now we can all
    get some sleep and resume our normal lives.

  2. OK. WAKE UP!

    The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his contract
    with Discovery that has been well publicized.

    The question is, this year or next year.

    --
    Bob C.

    "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
    T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)
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    NPR reports that Armstrong will shoot for a 7th Tour. Now we can all
    get some sleep and resume our normal lives.

  3. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    OK. WAKE UP!

    The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.

    The question is, this year or next year.

    --
    Bob C.

    And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before 7/06?
    I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in 2005.

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    NPR reports that Armstrong will shoot for a 7th Tour. Now we can all
    get some sleep and resume our normal lives.


    All that bluster and in the end just a smoke and mirrors show from LA and
    his minions. Was there ever a doubt he would show up for 2005? All that
    talk about hour record, spring classics, wants to accomplish other things,
    etc. so much hot air. This guy has mastered the communications aspect even
    before he signed up Discovery Channel. I guess as long as it ain't broke
    he'll beat the familiar path for another year all the while lowering
    early-season expectations with his "my form is far from perfect" broken
    record. One question we won't have to ask, his form will be "perfect" come
    launch day.

  5. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    OK. WAKE UP!

    The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.

    The question is, this year or next year.

    --
    Bob C.

    And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before
    7/06? I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in 2005.

    Oh, I see, Brian. Now that he has announced and made it official (I just
    saw it on TODAY, so it must be true), YOU knew it all along. Sheesh.
    You're a piece of work.

    --
    Bob C.

    "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
    T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)

  6. Quoted message said:

    NPR reports that Armstrong will shoot for a 7th Tour. Now we can all
    get some sleep and resume our normal lives.


    And he'll do an 8th too. Let's be realistic, he really can't do
    anything else. Remember that's what his ex-wife found out. If he isn't the
    big man on the Tour, than he's just Sheryl's toady, like David Guest was for
    Liza Minneli. David Guest has just come out with the facts that Liza use to
    slap him in the back of the head all the time, and was force fed oxycontin
    by her. Do you think Lance wants to become a sad creature like him? There
    was no doubt in my mind. He'll keeping doing tours even as a domestique.

  7. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    OK. WAKE UP!

    The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.

    The question is, this year or next year.

    --
    Bob C.

    And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before
    7/06? I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in 2005.

    Oh, I see, Brian. Now that he has announced and made it official (I just
    saw it on TODAY, so it must be true), YOU knew it all along. Sheesh.
    You're a piece of work.

    --
    Bob C.

    I knew it with the same degree of certainty as many of his competitors who
    have gone on record as saying that it was nearly inconceivable that he would
    miss the Tour this year. I don't think anyone in their right mind would
    seriously think that he would wait until 2006 and ride the classics to win
    this year. Many people, myself included, would have liked to see him do the
    monuments this year plus Amstel. I'll bet Boogaard is disappointed.
    George, Max and the classics crew at Discovery are probably happy with the
    decision.

    Please try to lighten up. You're obsessing far to much about moi. :-)

  8. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > OK. WAKE UP!
    >
    > The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    > contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.
    >
    > The question is, this year or next year.
    >
    > --
    > Bob C.

    And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before
    7/06? I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in
    2005.

    Oh, I see, Brian. Now that he has announced and made it official (I just
    saw it on TODAY, so it must be true), YOU knew it all along. Sheesh.
    You're a piece of work.

    --
    Bob C.

    I knew it with the same degree of certainty as many of his competitors who
    have gone on record as saying that it was nearly inconceivable that he
    would miss the Tour this year. I don't think anyone in their right mind
    would seriously think that he would wait until 2006 and ride the classics
    to win this year. Many people, myself included, would have liked to see
    him do the monuments this year plus Amstel. I'll bet Boogaard is
    disappointed. George, Max and the classics crew at Discovery are probably
    happy with the decision.

    Please try to lighten up. You're obsessing far to much about moi. :-)

    Sorry. I'm home sick, so I'm in a foul mood.

    I really did hope to see Lance shoot for Flanders, Amstel and then the
    Vuelta. It just looked to me from watching the Tour last year that he
    really loved that stage on the cobbles. I'd love more than anything to see
    him really take his best shot at Flanders.

    I also thought it would be neat to have a new defending Tour champion going
    into 2006. Then it would be Lance against the defending champ. Instant
    motivation. Instant interest. As it is, I wouldn't bet on Lance to win
    this year (or even finish). How could he be that motivated?

    But at least now we can look forward to SOME cycling coverage in the run-up
    to the Tour. I guess we'll have The Lance Commercials and Road to the Tour
    and stuff like that. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.

    Not to ramble on here, but how will OLN reconcile itself with Discovery
    Channel? What will they do without Al Trautwig? Is it true that Kirstin
    Gum (or whatever he name was) got swept away in the tsunami? Enquiring
    minds want to know.

    Oh ... and death to the dopers.
    --
    Bob C.

    "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
    T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)

  9. Ullrich is happy that Lance is planning to compete for the Tour win
    this year. J.U. Der Kaiser always been saying he really hopes LANCE
    will be there. My guess would have been 50-50 that Lance lines up; now
    it's certain. 🙂

    Maybe Merckx (his not-so-subtle recent statements) had something to do
    with this?

    So, will OLN be printing money for their stateside live broadcasts?

    -Ken

  10. I think it became apparent that withn the current team there are no
    fewer than three guys who have as good, if not a better, chance at
    winning the monuments this year and that if Lance decided to induldge
    his desire to compete in the classics he would be giving a huge f-u to
    the people on the team who focus on the classic....sorry Roger you're
    riding for Lance now. Not the best way to build a team and I think
    Lance realized that.

    TDF in July and the hour in septemeber....Hopefully.

  11. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> OK. WAKE UP!
    >>
    >> The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    >> contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.
    >>
    >> The question is, this year or next year.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Bob C.
    >
    > And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before
    > 7/06? I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in
    > 2005.

    Oh, I see, Brian. Now that he has announced and made it official (I
    just saw it on TODAY, so it must be true), YOU knew it all along.
    Sheesh. You're a piece of work.

    --
    Bob C.

    I knew it with the same degree of certainty as many of his competitors
    who have gone on record as saying that it was nearly inconceivable that
    he would miss the Tour this year. I don't think anyone in their right
    mind would seriously think that he would wait until 2006 and ride the
    classics to win this year. Many people, myself included, would have
    liked to see him do the monuments this year plus Amstel. I'll bet
    Boogaard is disappointed. George, Max and the classics crew at Discovery
    are probably happy with the decision.

    Please try to lighten up. You're obsessing far to much about moi. :-)

    Sorry. I'm home sick, so I'm in a foul mood.

    I really did hope to see Lance shoot for Flanders, Amstel and then the
    Vuelta. It just looked to me from watching the Tour last year that he
    really loved that stage on the cobbles. I'd love more than anything to
    see him really take his best shot at Flanders.

    Well, you're getting part of your wish -- he's on the calendar for Flanders.
    "Following Paris-Nice, Armstrong will take part in the 89th edition of the
    Tour of Flanders, one of Europe's most prestigious Spring Classics, on April
    3. Armstrong last raced in the Tour of Flanders in 2002, finishing 59th in
    support of his team's leader."
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/feb05/feb16newsflash

  12. Yeah, he's ahppy because Lance is better, so if he bombs against Lance
    its because its Lance, but if bombs against Basso or someone else then
    he knows he's done...then again, he's probably done.

    CH

  13. "k.papai" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

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    So, will OLN be printing money for their stateside live broadcasts?

    And will they be fuzzing out "Discovery Channel" from the kits during their
    broadcast? Discovery's got to be chuckling about that one.

  14. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> OK. WAKE UP!
    >>
    >> The question has never been "will he do a 7th tour." That's in his
    >> contract with Discovery that has been well publicized.
    >>
    >> The question is, this year or next year.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Bob C.
    >
    > And if he had decided not to ride it this year and then retired before
    > 7/06? I don't think anyone seriously thought he wouldn't ride it in
    > 2005.

    Oh, I see, Brian. Now that he has announced and made it official (I
    just saw it on TODAY, so it must be true), YOU knew it all along.
    Sheesh. You're a piece of work.

    --
    Bob C.

    I knew it with the same degree of certainty as many of his competitors
    who have gone on record as saying that it was nearly inconceivable that
    he would miss the Tour this year. I don't think anyone in their right
    mind would seriously think that he would wait until 2006 and ride the
    classics to win this year. Many people, myself included, would have
    liked to see him do the monuments this year plus Amstel. I'll bet
    Boogaard is disappointed. George, Max and the classics crew at Discovery
    are probably happy with the decision.

    Please try to lighten up. You're obsessing far to much about moi. :-)

    Sorry. I'm home sick, so I'm in a foul mood.

    I really did hope to see Lance shoot for Flanders, Amstel and then the
    Vuelta. It just looked to me from watching the Tour last year that he
    really loved that stage on the cobbles. I'd love more than anything to
    see him really take his best shot at Flanders.

    Well, he says that he will ride Flanders. One would expect him to ride to
    win much as he rode L-B-L in 2003. IMO, he could have won that with
    diffrent tactics. He'll give Flanders his best shot. It's early enough for
    him to peak at the right time for the Tour.

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    I also thought it would be neat to have a new defending Tour champion
    going into 2006. Then it would be Lance against the defending champ.
    Instant motivation. Instant interest.

    Nice idea.

    Quoted message said:

    As it is, I wouldn't bet on Lance to win this year (or even finish). How
    could he be that motivated?

    He'll be motivated. Jan's presence will do that.

    Quoted message said:


    But at least now we can look forward to SOME cycling coverage in the
    run-up to the Tour. I guess we'll have The Lance Commercials and Road to
    the Tour and stuff like that. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.

    Not to ramble on here, but how will OLN reconcile itself with Discovery
    Channel? What will they do without Al Trautwig? Is it true that Kirstin
    Gum (or whatever he name was) got swept away in the tsunami? Enquiring
    minds want to know.

    IIRC, OLN still has a year to go on thier contract with ASO. Perhaps
    they'll cut some kind of a deal with Discovery. If it's a good race, I'll
    buy a DVD---which is to say if Armstrong loses or has a real battle on his
    hands.

    Quoted message said:


    Oh ... and death to the dopers.

    Sadly, they are dying, mostly in their sleep.

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    Well, you're getting part of your wish -- he's on the calendar for
    Flanders.
    "Following Paris-Nice, Armstrong will take part in the 89th edition of the
    Tour of Flanders, one of Europe's most prestigious Spring Classics, on
    April 3. Armstrong last raced in the Tour of Flanders in 2002, finishing
    59th in support of his team's leader."
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/feb05/feb16newsflash

    Well, "taking part in" and riding to win are pretty different. As the
    article states, last time he finished 59th. I watched my tape of that
    broadcast just the other day during my roller session and, though Lance said
    he'd be wherever George was, he wasn't. George needed him in the last 10k
    and he wasn't there.

    Oh well.

    --
    Bob C.

    "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
    T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)

  16. k.papai said:

    Ullrich is happy that Lance is planning to compete for the Tour win
    this year. J.U. Der Kaiser always been saying he really hopes LANCE
    will be there.

    For Germans, the one and only "Kaiser" is Franz Beckenbauer, former
    captain of bayern Munich and the German national (i.e. DDR) soccer
    team.

    Kenny

  17. OK Lance is gonna do the tour this year, BUT HE STILL WON`T be first
    up BRASSTOWN BALD in the tour of Georgia. Yep he is gonna do Ga again
    also.
    The Bear

  18. Kenny said:

    Franz Beckenbauer, former captain of bayern Munich
    and the German national (i.e. DDR) soccer team.

    I see you do not know as much about football as you pretend to know
    about cycling.

    --
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  19. Jim Flom said:

    And will they be fuzzing out "Discovery Channel" from the kits during their
    broadcast? Discovery's got to be chuckling about that one.

    All you guys going on about how OLN has a problem with Discovery must
    not get a steady dose of sports on cable. ESPN alone is either on or
    showing other cable channels on a constant basis. Hell, Comcast
    advertises on Dish and vice versa, and those are real competitors.

    I don't think OLN really cares. Discovery is sold in the lower end
    package anyway and OLN would love to join them, rather than the next
    to last niche package, just before you order Spanish-language
    football.

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about drugs, what the hell are the
    English and Spanish football/soccer announcers on? They seem to be
    either on speed or depressants and nothing in-between.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  20. Quoted message said:
    k.papai said:

    Ullrich is happy that Lance is planning to compete for the Tour win
    this year. J.U. Der Kaiser always been saying he really hopes LANCE
    will be there.

    Quoted message said:

    For Germans, the one and only "Kaiser" is Franz Beckenbauer, former
    captain of bayern Munich and the German national (i.e. DDR) soccer
    team.
    Kenny

    I am half German and always think of either Hindenberg or Ullrich when
    I hear "Der Kaiser."
    Beckenbauer... I barely heard of him.

    I went to a pro soccer match at the huge Hamburg stadium once, guess
    what the fnial score was?
    Nil - nil! Never ever witnessed a more boring sport. That was my
    first
    soccer experience. There were 50,000 fans there too.

    Did those DDR guys dope a lot?

    -ken

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