It had to happen

Just zis Guy said:

My first broken spoke in over 25 years of cycling. One front spoke on
the 'bent, broken off at the Danny[1] while going over a particularly
vicious speed ramp. Bah! A handbuilt wheel, too, but of course the
angles are a bit tight on 406 rims even with cross two lacing.

[1] yes, nipple.

Fonr wheel on the Speedmachine has been doing a bit of that recently, for no
readily-apparent reason. Wheel has done 10,000 miles in 3.5 years, so why
it should choose to start now is a mystery.

Bah encore!

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Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
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Fonr? BLEAN! I meant "Front", obv.

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Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Dave
Larrington <[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Fonr wheel on the Speedmachine has been doing a bit of that recently, for no
readily-apparent reason. Wheel has done 10,000 miles in 3.5 years, so why
it should choose to start now is a mystery.

Metal fatigue setting in?

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Pyromancer said:

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Dave
Larrington <[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Fonr wheel on the Speedmachine has been doing a bit of that
recently, for no readily-apparent reason. Wheel has done 10,000
miles in 3.5 years, so why it should choose to start now is a
mystery.

Metal fatigue setting in?

Exactly.

The bump from the speed ramp, in Guy's case, was probably just the final
straw.

~PB

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Pete Biggs
<[email hidden]> gently breathed:

[ metal fatigue causing random spoke failure after 10,000 miles ]

Quoted message said:

Exactly.

The bump from the speed ramp, in Guy's case, was probably just the final
straw.

You know there's probably an idea in there somewhere about whether or
not it would be theoretically possible to make bicycle spokes out of
straw, but having seen where the last innocent comment on wheel
technology I made led, I really think I'm not going to go there...
:-)

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My first broken spoke in over 25 years of cycling. One front spoke on
the 'bent, broken off at the Danny[1] while going over a particularly
vicious speed ramp. Bah! A handbuilt wheel, too, but of course the
angles are a bit tight on 406 rims even with cross two lacing.

[1] yes, nipple.

Guy
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I've noticed that when spokes do break it's always on the cassette side of
rear wheel making replacement extra tricky. This must be related to the
theory governing which side down a piece of buttered toast lands when you
drop it.

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Quoted message said:

I've noticed that when spokes do break it's always on the cassette side of
rear wheel making replacement extra tricky. This must be related to the
theory governing which side down a piece of buttered toast lands when you
drop it.

Boringly, that's just because they're the ones which are under most stress
(and liable to chain damage).

cheers,
clive

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've noticed that when spokes do break it's always on the cassette
side of rear wheel making replacement extra tricky. This must be
related to the theory governing which side down a piece of buttered
toast lands when you drop it.

Boringly, that's just because they're the ones which are under most
stress (and liable to chain damage).

And regards bread, it's 'cos the buttered side is heavier, and possibly
something to do with the height of tables as well.

Ignoring the 'scientific' theories and throwing in a load of cats, you can
quite easily make a perpetual motion device:

"When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is
dropped, it always lands buttered side down. It was proposed to strap giant
slabs of hot buttered toast to the back of a hundred tethered cats; the two
opposing forces will cause the cats to hover, spinning inches above the
ground. Using the giant buttered toast/cat array, a high-speed monorail
could easily link New York with Chicago."

Of course that requires cats with good luck, and toast with bad luck. How
do we find these? Well it all depends on astrology and when the toast can
be considered 'born'.

Mark Thompson said:

And regards bread, it's 'cos the buttered side is heavier, and possibly
something to do with the height of tables as well.

It is entirely to do with the height of the table.

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Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as David
Martin <[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Mark Thompson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And regards bread, it's 'cos the buttered side is heavier, and possibly
something to do with the height of tables as well.

Quoted message said:

It is entirely to do with the height of the table.

I thought it was the lower drag of the buttered side in the air as it
falls?

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:55:29 +0100, "Clive George"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Boringly, that's just because they're the ones which are under most stress
(and liable to chain damage).

So I would have thought, dish related. But my breakage was on the
undished side of the wheel, which was a surprise.

I have a dished front wheel due to disc brakes.

Guy
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Just zis Guy said:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:55:29 +0100, "Clive George"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Boringly, that's just because they're the ones which are under most stress
(and liable to chain damage).

So it might seem....

Quoted message said:

So I would have thought, dish related. But my breakage was on the
undished side of the wheel, which was a surprise.

Not a surprise if you read The Bicycle Wheel by your friend J. Brandt.

Quoted message said:

I have a dished front wheel due to disc brakes.

Wishy washy chains of cause and effect aren't normally associated
with the name of Guy.
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:20:50 +0200, Mark South
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So I would have thought, dish related. But my breakage was on the
undished side of the wheel, which was a surprise.

Quoted message said:

Not a surprise if you read The Bicycle Wheel by your friend J. Brandt.

Was that the one it was standing on, then? ;-)

Guy
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Pyromancer said:

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as David
Martin <[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Mark Thompson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And regards bread, it's 'cos the buttered side is heavier, and possibly
something to do with the height of tables as well.

Quoted message said:

It is entirely to do with the height of the table.

I thought it was the lower drag of the buttered side in the air as it
falls?

I think it is. but the height of the table is such that it can rotate
180 degrees from buttered side up (on the table) to butter side down (on
the floor). If the table was infinitely high, the buttered toast would
spin as it descended.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> whizzed past me
shouting

Quoted message said:

My first broken spoke in over 25 years of cycling.

That's an achievement, I've broken a few in 30 years and I don't ride
hard. Ray the Dentist broke two on today's CTC ride, in the middle of a
harmless looking wood. I never got round to finding out how he managed
it, because of the distraction of a runaway horse.

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Sue ];(🙂

What goes down must come up again - other than runaway horses