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  1. Ripped from Cyclingnews of 2 October:

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    Detergent enzyme to mask EPO? Ullrich named

    Urine samples being tested for EPO are supposed to show a certain amount of EPO, which is naturally produced in the body. But what if the sample shows absolutely none? This is happening more and more frequently, according to the Neue Züricher Zeitung, and allegedly some cyclists are using some sort of powder to affect their urine tests. The paper reports that Swiss TV SF1 has identified this powder as protease, an enzyme in laundry detergent which usually works as a stain remover. And a familiar big name is mentioned in association with the new problem - Jan Ullrich.

    The theory goes this way: The athlete puts a little of the powder in the pockets of his pants. Before urinating, he puts his fingers into it, and urinates over his fingers at the control, so that the enzyme is mixed with his urine in the container. This little amount is sufficient to destroy the protein, and therefore the EPO, in the urine. "Protease is simply easy to use, cheap and available without prescription - and thus an almost perfect aid for the deceptive athlete," says the NZZ.

    The process doesn't seem to have become too popular yet. Marial Saugy, director of the Lausanne doping laboratory, said that "less than 10 percent of the samples" showed a zero EPO value. This did not necessarily mean that protease was being used, but the lab is currently testing the enzyme. "We should have legally acceptable evidence within a few months," he said.

    Matthias Kamber, head of the antidoping department of the Swiss federal agency for sport, was reportedly the first to identify the problem. He noticed that over the last few months, more than a dozen doping samples containing no EPO at all were delivered. He listed the cases and noticed that some of them matched certain athletes. "That led us to suspect manipulation," he said. After conferring with other experts, he came to the conclusion that protease was involved and turned the matter over the Lausanne lab in spring 2006.

    According to SF1, one of the doping samples without EPO belonged to Jan Ullrich and was taken in South Africa in December 2005. The NZZ reported that there were at least two other similar samples form Ullrich according to its sources, and that a link to the evidence uncovered in Operation Puerto was possible: Certain documents uncovered by the Spanish Guardia Civil relating to Ullrich repeatedly used the word "polvos" - powder.

    Courtesy of Susan Westemeyer
    **************************************************

    So Ullrich is CLEAN!!! :p 😉

  2. warrwych said:


    So Ullrich is CLEAN!!! :p 😉

    As clean as the driven snow .. as clean as the slushy stuff melting away down the back of a Mt Hotham chalet...

  3. cfsmtb said:

    As clean as the driven snow .. as clean as the slushy stuff melting away down the back of a Mt Hotham chalet...

    Omo clean 😄

  4. warrwych said:

    Ripped from Cyclingnews of 2 October:

    ***************************************************

    Detergent enzyme to mask EPO? Ullrich named

    Urine samples being tested for EPO are supposed to show a certain
    amount of EPO, which is naturally produced in the body. But what if the
    sample shows absolutely none? This is happening more and more
    frequently, according to the Neue Züricher Zeitung, and allegedly some
    cyclists are using some sort of powder to affect their urine tests. The
    paper reports that Swiss TV SF1 has identified this powder as protease,
    an enzyme in laundry detergent which usually works as a stain remover.
    And a familiar big name is mentioned in association with the new
    problem - Jan Ullrich.

    The theory goes this way: The athlete puts a little of the powder in
    the pockets of his pants. Before urinating, he puts his fingers into
    it, and urinates over his fingers at the control, so that the enzyme is
    mixed with his urine in the container. This little amount is sufficient
    to destroy the protein, and therefore the EPO, in the urine. "Protease
    is simply easy to use, cheap and available without prescription - and
    thus an almost perfect aid for the deceptive athlete," says the NZZ.

    The process doesn't seem to have become too popular yet. Marial Saugy,
    director of the Lausanne doping laboratory, said that "less than 10
    percent of the samples" showed a zero EPO value. This did not
    necessarily mean that protease was being used, but the lab is currently
    testing the enzyme. "We should have legally acceptable evidence within a
    few months," he said.

    Matthias Kamber, head of the antidoping department of the Swiss federal
    agency for sport, was reportedly the first to identify the problem. He
    noticed that over the last few months, more than a dozen doping samples
    containing no EPO at all were delivered. He listed the cases and noticed
    that some of them matched certain athletes. "That led us to suspect
    manipulation," he said. After conferring with other experts, he came to
    the conclusion that protease was involved and turned the matter over the
    Lausanne lab in spring 2006.

    According to SF1, one of the doping samples without EPO belonged to Jan
    Ullrich and was taken in South Africa in December 2005. The NZZ reported
    that there were at least two other similar samples form Ullrich
    according to its sources, and that a link to the evidence uncovered in
    Operation Puerto was possible: Certain documents uncovered by the
    Spanish Guardia Civil relating to Ullrich repeatedly used the word
    "polvos" - powder.

    Courtesy of Susan Westemeyer
    **************************************************

    So Ullrich is CLEAN!!! :p 😉

    It's unwise to draw any conclusions from this sort of thing without due
    process being followed. The above is at this time, mere speculation.

  5. Bleve said:

    It's unwise to draw any conclusions from this sort of thing without due
    process being followed. The above is at this time, mere speculation.

    I was punning Bleve-o 😉 Nothing to get lathered about 😄 But, to be sure, a prewash, er dope test, squirt with Preen may be recommended 😉

  6. warrwych said:
    Bleve said:

    It's unwise to draw any conclusions from this sort of thing without
    due
    process being followed. The above is at this time, mere speculation.

    I was punning Bleve-o 😉 Nothing to get lathered about 😄 But, to be
    sure, a prewash, er dope test, squirt with Preen may be recommended

    It's an interesting article, to be sure, but it's let down by the last
    section, which makes unproven allegations against an individual rider,
    who happens to be a human being who is, at least in my mind, innocent
    until proven guilty.

  7. Bleve said:


    warrwych said:
    Bleve said:

    It's unwise to draw any conclusions from this sort of thing without
    due
    process being followed. The above is at this time, mere speculation.

    I was punning Bleve-o 😉 Nothing to get lathered about 😄 But, to be
    sure, a prewash, er dope test, squirt with Preen may be recommended

    It's an interesting article, to be sure, but it's let down by the last
    section, which makes unproven allegations against an individual rider,
    who happens to be a human being who is, at least in my mind, innocent
    until proven guilty.

    Big Jan, sweet and innocent and pushing a monster gear.

    (okay so you never said he was sweet...)

  8. Aaaah. must be International week of quality Journalism! 🙄

    Bleve said:


    over a few months NO EPO....

    These consistently matched certain names....

    He listed the cases and noticed that some of them matched certain athletes. "That led us to suspect manipulation," he said....

    "he came to the conclusion that protease was involved"....

    sounds familiar... now what does it sound like???...

    "Proctor. I demand that you tell us the truth as your wife is clearly a witch..." Arthur Miller. The Crucible.

  9. flyingdutch said:

    Aaaah. must be International week of quality Journalism! 🙄

    Bleve Wrote:

    No, I didn't, Warwych did (or at least, she quoted the article in
    question)

  10. quote='Bleve'flyingdutch said:

    Aaaah. must be International week of quality Journalism! 🙄

    Bleve Wrote:

    No, I didn't, Warwych did (or at least, she quoted the article in
    question)[/QUOTE]

    yes, t'was I.....

    "Out damn spot, out"

  11. warrwych said:
    Bleve said:
    flyingdutch said:

    Aaaah. must be International week of quality Journalism! 🙄

    Bleve Wrote:

    No, I didn't, Warwych did (or at least, she quoted the article in
    question)

    yes, t'was I.....

    "Out damn spot, out"

    Don't mention the Scottish play.

  12. quote='Bleve'warrwych said:
    Bleve said:
    flyingdutch said:

    Aaaah. must be International week of quality Journalism! 🙄

    Bleve Wrote:

    No, I didn't, Warwych did (or at least, she quoted the article in
    question)

    yes, t'was I.....

    "Out damn spot, out"

    Don't mention the Scottish play.[/QUOTE]

    Scottish???? It's Orstaayyin these days mate!

  13. Bleve said:


    warrwych said:

    "Out damn spot, out"

    Don't mention the Scottish play.

    What about the war?

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    the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@ to usenet".

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