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  1. I stumbled upon this and had to share. It could make for some
    interesting uni frames if what they claim is true. If not, it's just
    cool to look at. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    IsoTruss open lattice structures are made up of three-dimensional (3-D)
    pyramid-shaped trusses formed by combining two-dimensional (2-D)
    trusses, such as the kind commonly used in architectural design. The
    pyramid-like structure of an IsoTruss lattice utilizes the well-known
    geometry of a triangle with two equal sides (an Isosceles Triangle) to
    create a form with a superior weight-to-strength ratio. Hence, the name
    IsoTruss comes from the "iso" in isosceles, while "truss" comes from
    the architectural design known as trusses.

    The fusion of 2-D trusses into the 3-D pyramid-shaped forms found
    within an IsoTruss structure enables Delta 7 Sports to build bicycle
    frames that bend less, twist less (torsion) and flex less (axial
    stiffness) than metal bike frames of comparable weight. For additional
    information about IsoTruss, please visit www.isotruss.org.

    from http://delta7sports.com/isotruss.html
    also check out the link in the above text: www.isotruss.org

    [image: http://delta7sports.com/images/bk_isotruss.jpg]

    Comments? Thoughts? Anyone willing to plunk down 7,000 cold ones to
    tell us how it rides?

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  2. mango said:

    I stumbled upon this and had to share. It could make for some
    interesting uni frames if what they claim is true. If not, it's just
    cool to look at. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    from http://delta7sports.com/isotruss.html
    also check out the link in the above text: www.isotruss.org

    [image: http://delta7sports.com/images/bk_isotruss.jpg]

    Comments? Thoughts? Anyone willing to plunk down 7,000 cold ones to
    tell us how it rides?

    That looks remarkably like something you would find in the dumpster for
    something so pricey.

    interesting to hear if what they claim is true though.

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  3. If I had $7,000 I'd buy one, Lifetime Warranty...

    Similar geometry to my current Norco Sasquatch frame too.

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  4. Looks like a bad application of an interesting technology...or is that
    an interesting application of a bad technology. Hmmmmm..... :eek:

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  5. That is so ugly, I don't think I'd get one even if they were stronger
    than conventional frames and I could afford it.

    Edd

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  6. imagine accidentally riding through dog [censored], that could get messy.

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  7. yeah imagine how much mud would get stuck in that thing, and it would be
    pretty harsh to fall against the frame, looks like a cheese grater

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  8. FlyByTire said:

    Looks like a bad application of an interesting technology...

    That's my first guess. The linked site is about touting the truss
    design, not bikes made out of it. At the moment it looks like the bike
    is just an example of "see, it's pretty strong and light" but little
    information is given.

    dangerdog said:

    imagine accidentally riding through dog [censored],

    Leave it to a guy named Dangerdog to think of that. ๐Ÿ™‚ But he's
    right. You build a mountain bike out of that stuff, the inside of the
    trusses is going to eventually fill up with stuff that will make it
    weigh a lot more than a conventional frame and be really hard to keep
    clean. Kind of like using radial spokes on a unicycle. The wheel may be
    super-stiff (laterally), but for most people it's not worth the
    constant maintenance to keep it true.

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  9. johnfoss said:

    Kind of like using radial spokes on a unicycle. The wheel may be
    super-stiff (laterally), but for most people it's not worth the
    constant maintenance to keep it true.

    Radial spoking doesn't make a wheel any stiffer laterally; it just
    looks cool and has marginally less weight. Lateral stiffness depends
    on a combination of hub width and spoke tension.

    Radial spoking should not be used for any wheels driven from the hub
    (such as unicycle wheels); they have no way to resist wind-up.

    Regarding this frame, it looks like a typical attempt to solve a
    non-existent problem, and I would expect it would be much more prone to
    failure than conventional frame tubes.

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  10. tholub said:

    Radial spoking doesn't make a wheel any stiffer laterally; it just looks
    cool and has marginally less weight. Lateral stiffness depends on a
    combination of hub width and spoke tension.

    You're probably right, at least in terms of being able to tell the
    difference. In any case it makes the wheel super *un-stiff* in the
    direction of drive. The spokes act like springs and wind up each time
    you change speed. The easiest way to kill a radially-spoked unicycle is
    just by idling on it. Playing basketball is quicker though. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Quoted message said:

    Regarding this frame, it looks like a typical attempt to solve a
    non-existent problem, and I would expect it would be much more prone to
    failure than conventional frame tubes.

    It may hold up better than thin bicycle tubing in terms of dents, but
    still I wouldn't ever want it on a mountain bike. I think they're using
    the bikes more to create attention to their truss design rather than
    actually sell bikes.

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  11. The down tube and seat tube on this frame have something around them to
    prevent dirt getting into it.

    The frame weighs 2.75 lbs, how many frames with a Lifetime Warranty and
    no rider weight limit weigh anywhere close to that low?

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