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  1. I've just put my Pashley PDQ for sale on Ebay. I have now had 3 independant
    emails (se below) all along these lines, and using VERY similar language.
    Has anyone experienced similar messages?

    Steve

    Hello,
    I'm mabel canders.I am interested in your [PASHLEY PDQ Recumbent bike]
    and I'll like to know your last offering price if it will be okay with
    me.I'll be making my payment with a certified check which is drawn from u.k
    bank .If you do I want you to get in touch with me immediately for me to
    proceed with the Payment. As for the shipping I'll contact a shipper agent
    of mine who will arranged for the Pick up as soon as the transaction is
    sealed and i will like you to get back to me.while i will like you to send
    the pics to me through my email ads.I'll be looking forward to your
    response.Thanks and Have a Nice day.Regards,
    Mrs Mabel

  2. Steve Almond said:

    I've just put my Pashley PDQ for sale on Ebay. I have now had 3
    independant emails (se below) all along these lines, and using VERY
    similar language. Has anyone experienced similar messages?

    Yes, it's a scam. Legit buyers buy through the eBay process.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

  3. Steve Almond vaguely muttered something like ...

    Quoted message said:

    I've just put my Pashley PDQ for sale on Ebay. I have now had 3
    independant emails (se below) all along these lines, and using VERY
    similar language. Has anyone experienced similar messages?

    Yes, it's a scam ..

    I either ignore them, or reply that if they want the article they must bid
    for it through eBay's usual routine. I also send a copy of the email to
    eBay for them to track down. I dunno if it helps, but it feels like I've
    done my bit 'properly' .. 😉

    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."


  4. Quoted message said:


    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped to
    £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will then
    come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Steve

  5. Steve Almond vaguely muttered something like ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped
    to £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will
    then come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Post-restante is still available, I believe .. 😉

    Heheheh, I'd love to get a scam over one of these scammers, it might make
    them think again.

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

  6. Steve Almond said:

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped to
    £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will then
    come and collect the bike.......

    Quoted message said:

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Don't be. The trick is that you cash the cheque, pay him his remainder,
    and then it turns out the cheque is fake/bounces/whatever and you have to
    hand £3800 back to the bank....

    Roos

  7. Steve Almond said:

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be
    tempted.....

    That's the only thing stopping you? What about the fact that it is obviously
    a scam?

  8. "Steve Almond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've just put my Pashley PDQ for sale on Ebay. I have now had 3


    independant

    Quoted message said:

    emails (se below) all along these lines, and using VERY similar language.
    Has anyone experienced similar messages?

    Steve

    Hello,
    I'm mabel canders.I am interested in your [PASHLEY PDQ Recumbent


    bike]

    Quoted message said:

    and I'll like to know your last offering price if it will be okay with
    me.I'll be making my payment with a certified check which is drawn from


    u.k

    Quoted message said:

    bank .If you do I want you to get in touch with me immediately for me to
    proceed with the Payment. As for the shipping I'll contact a shipper agent
    of mine who will arranged for the Pick up as soon as the transaction is
    sealed and i will like you to get back to me.while i will like you to send
    the pics to me through my email ads.I'll be looking forward to your
    response.Thanks and Have a Nice day.Regards,
    Mrs Mabel

    Yep - in the unlikely event that you responded the next phase of the scam
    would be to offer to pay you with a cheque in excess of the sale price and
    for you to give them the difference in cash .... needless to say their
    cheque will be a dud and you will no bike and have lost money. Beats me
    why people respond to these obvious scams .... but sadly they do, otherwise
    the Nigerian e-mails would not still be flying around.

    RG

  9. "Steve Almond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will


    then

    Quoted message said:

    come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Steve


    This is a well known scam, their cheque will bounce!

    Regards

    Bernard

  10. Steve Almond said:

    I've just put my Pashley PDQ for sale on Ebay. I have now had 3 independant
    emails (se below) all along these lines, and using VERY similar language.
    Has anyone experienced similar messages?

    It's a common scam. Don't even bother replying. You could report them to
    ebay but it won't achieve much.

    d.

  11. Steve Almond said:
    Quoted message said:


    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped to
    £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will then
    come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....


    The cheque appears to clear, you pay them by Western Union, then the
    cheque actually bounces. The banks are responsible for the illusion,
    even if the fraudsters are the ones who exploit it.

    A

  12. Paul - censored said:

    Heheheh, I'd love to get a scam over one of these scammers, it might make
    them think again.

    Someone did it not so long ago in an auction for a laptop and actually
    managed to scam the scammer. They sent a home-made imitation powerbook
    to the scammer and got someone to be there when the package arrived to
    take pictures. Most amusing. There was a website with the full story but
    I'm afraid I don't have the link handy.

    d.

  13. "Bernard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Steve Almond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Or ask them to send a cheque for £50,000 or so ...

    --
    Paul ...

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for £3800 (owed by the associate


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    £600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will


    then

    Quoted message said:

    come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    This is a well known scam, their cheque will bounce!

    What is really crazy is that Western Union allow this sort of scam to
    happen - IIRC there are warnings on ebay about using WU (although that may
    be just to encourage use of the ebay owned Paypal system)

    RG

  14. "Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The cheque appears to clear, you pay them by Western Union, then the
    cheque actually bounces. The banks are responsible for the illusion,
    even if the fraudsters are the ones who exploit it.

    How do they get the cheque to "appear" to clear? Would it be a normal cheque
    drawn on a UK bank?

  15. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The cheque appears to clear, you pay them by Western Union, then the
    cheque actually bounces. The banks are responsible for the illusion,
    even if the fraudsters are the ones who exploit it.

    How do they get the cheque to "appear" to clear? Would it be a normal cheque
    drawn on a UK bank?

    It's happened to me in the past (not the scam just a rubber
    cheque); the funds were credited to my account after three days
    and on the fourth day they were withdrawn by the bank.

    Juliette
    --

  16. davek vaguely muttered something like ...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul - censored said:

    Heheheh, I'd love to get a scam over one of these scammers, it might make
    them think again.

    Someone did it not so long ago in an auction for a laptop and actually
    managed to scam the scammer. They sent a home-made imitation powerbook
    to the scammer and got someone to be there when the package arrived to
    take pictures. Most amusing. There was a website with the full story but
    I'm afraid I don't have the link handy.

    Yeah, just done a websearch .. have a look here .. very good piece .. 😉

    http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

  17. Juliette said:

    It's happened to me in the past (not the scam just a rubber
    cheque); the funds were credited to my account after three days
    and on the fourth day they were withdrawn by the bank.

    Having once upon a time worked in a bank, in the department responsible
    for pulling bad cheques no less, I can state categorically that this is
    entirely normal and it's all to do with the convoluted, antiquated way
    the cheque clearing system works.

    Modern communications mean the process could easily be updated and
    automated and made much quicker but that isn't in the bank's interest
    because banks make a packet in interest accrued on money they hold while
    cheques are in limbo.

    It's an even bigger scam than the Nigerian money laundering thing.

    d.

  18. Paul - censored said:


    Quoted message said:

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    Post-restante is still available, I believe .. 😉

    Heheheh, I'd love to get a scam over one of these scammers, it might make
    them think again.


    There was a play at the Edinburgh Fringe about somepone who led on a
    bunch of Nigerian spammers.
    Sadly I didn't get to see it. Any of our Scottish contingent see it?
    Called the Great Nigerian Spam Scam, IIRC

    Onthis subject, did anyone see the bicycle journey show at the Pleasance?
    Missed that also...
    I was too busy seeing things like the wonderful Pig Iron theatre company
    ending and recreating the universe.

  19. Steve Almond said:

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for ?3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped to
    ?600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will then
    come and collect the bike.......

    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be tempted.....

    You are joking I hope. This is the just about the oldest scam in the
    book. The cheque bounces, of course - but not until you have sent off
    the balance.

    James
    --
    If I have seen further than others, it is
    by treading on the toes of giants.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

  20. James Annan said:
    Steve Almond said:

    Strangely enough, the first emailer (Tony) wants my address so that an
    associate of his can send me a cheque for ?3800 (owed by the associate to
    Tony). I can then deduct "my price" for the bike, which he has now upped to
    ?600, and send the balance via Western Union to his "shipper" who will then
    come and collect the bike.......
    If it wasn't for having to give out my address, I might be
    tempted.....

    You are joking I hope. This is the just about the oldest scam in the
    book. The cheque bounces, of course - but not until you have sent off
    the balance.


    Although people have scammed the scammers by saying, e.g. they can't
    afford to pay the Western Union fee due to some business process they
    have to follow, and they need that money shipped over to pay the
    fee. And of course, by the time that comes, the cheque's bounced and
    you can't reach the scammer to pay them the fee back.

    If even 10% of people could string them along on this front, then it's
    worth it. Indeed I suggest getting them to send you the cheque anyway,
    just to waste their time at negligible cost to you.

    A

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