Is There a Sweetener?

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of

sugar? I

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had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

Stevia is not as good as its proponents claim. See:

http://cspinet.org/new/stevia.html

" "Although there is no evidence of harm to people, laboratory studies of
stevia have found potential cancer and reproductive-health problems. Stevia
depressed sperm production in male rats and reduced the number and size of
the offspring of female hamsters. Until those concerns are disproven, stevia
should not be used by manufacturers in soft drinks, candy, or other foods,"
said David Schardt, associate nutritionist for CSPI.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) over the past 10 years has
rejected three food-additive petitions for stevia because its safety had not
been adequately demonstrated. Canada also has not approved its use, and last
year a scientific review panel for the European Community declared that
stevia is unacceptable for use in food."

It seems like you should be using real sugar and/or aspartame, which has
never been proven to be the evil the anti-aspartamistas claim it is. Scratch
the surface of their claims, and you will find nothing to worry about,
unless you suffer from PKU, which you should already know.

TonishaWallace a écrit dans le message
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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of sugar?

I

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had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE".
100% nature it is one of the most wide spread sugars in nature. Used in
moderation it is 100% safe when used by otherwise healthy persons.

JO

One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE"... Used in
moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working for you. Now, go back
to Study Hall, son...

How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
Anth

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

Good idea.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
Anth

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?
Anth

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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
Anth

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.

And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of

sugar? I

Quoted message said:

had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.

Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE"... Used in
moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working for you. Now, go

back

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to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of it's subtle presentation,
is that perhaps you should examine your reasons for wanting a sugar
substitute. Drinking "diet" soft drinks will not make you skinny. If you are
worried about the calories in sugar, eat and drink less sweet stuff. Even if
you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make it an occasional
treat in small amounts, not a major component of your diet. Learn to drink
your coffee and tea unsweetened. Learn to do without whatever it is that you
are trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with courtesy and
reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Rich Shewmaker a écrit dans le message ...

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"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE"... Used in
moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working for you. Now,

go

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back

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to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of it's subtle presentation,
is that perhaps you should examine your reasons for wanting a sugar
substitute. Drinking "diet" soft drinks will not make you skinny. If you

are

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worried about the calories in sugar, eat and drink less sweet stuff. Even

if

Quoted message said:

you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make it an occasional
treat in small amounts, not a major component of your diet. Learn to drink
your coffee and tea unsweetened. Learn to do without whatever it is that

you

Quoted message said:

are trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with courtesy and
reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Do not worry about those who respond to posts with childish remarks!!!
There is a myth put forth by those who want to market expensive and off time
dangerous sugar replacements that
table sugar or sucrose is unnatural and unhealthy. It is neither!! As I
mentioned it is one of the most abundant of all
sugars found in nature. It makes up around 10% by weight
of "fruits" like dates.
Sucrose is composed of a glucose and fructose molecule linked together.
In the human body sucrose undergoes hydrolysis to form an equal mixture of
D-glucose and D-fructose. Honey , loved by the table sugar haters, is
largely a mixture of sucrose, D-glucose
and D-fructose. So in effect eating table sugar (sucrose) has the same
effect of eating honey minus the antigens found in honey that can in some
people cause a
fatal reaction.
Eating sugar in moderation is not only NOT fattening but very healthy way
to cut one appetite and lose weight. This
has been know by the ladies of Europe for centuries and is the basis for the
afternoon tea. A little tea with sugar and a sweet cake at around 4:00 in
the after noon serves to raise the blood sugar level and stem the appetite.
So that less
is consumed for the evening meal. The same is true for the morning tea.
One major problem is the English speaking world is that
much of the food consumed is pre-package or pre-prepared
and loaded with extra sugar. Taking a little extra time to prepare food
from the basic ingredients can over come this problem.
Not drinking "soft drinks" by the litre (gallon) is also a good plan.
Also don't stick a bowl of "sugar poofos" in from of your
kid in the morning and then complain about the sugar company causing them to
be over weight with bad teeth.
Get up ten minute early and fix the kid a decent meal.

JO

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these anti-aspartamistas and
was email bnox bombed by them, for showing that Betty Martini was, is, and
always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the net wrt aspartame.
She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-accredited bible college and now
calls herself doctor. Hulda Clark, and you know how I feel about her, has
more of a right to call herself doctor.

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Anth

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How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
Anth

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
>
> And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories of
sugar? I
> had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.
>
> Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

(Someone should invoke Godwins then before this thread kills the server!)
Anth

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these anti-aspartamistas

and

Quoted message said:

was email bnox bombed by them, for showing that Betty Martini was, is, and
always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the net wrt aspartame.
She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-accredited bible college and

now

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calls herself doctor. Hulda Clark, and you know how I feel about her, has
more of a right to call herself doctor.

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Anth

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"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
> Anth
>
> "TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
> >
> > And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the calories

of

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> sugar? I
> > had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.
> >
> > Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?

(If you are looking at cutting your weight, you might want to look into the
recent Atkins studies which show that protein regulates appetite, thus you
eat much less on Atkins)
Anth

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Rich Shewmaker a écrit dans le message ...

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"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of the best sweeteners available is called "SUCROSE"... Used in
moderation...blah blah...Some Puke>>

Wow, Pukey. You have a real Junior High education working for you. Now,

go

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back

Quoted message said:

to Study Hall, son...

JO's point, which you obvously missed because of it's subtle

presentation,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is that perhaps you should examine your reasons for wanting a sugar
substitute. Drinking "diet" soft drinks will not make you skinny. If you

are

Quoted message said:

worried about the calories in sugar, eat and drink less sweet stuff. Even

if

Quoted message said:

you are diabetic, sugar is not totally taboo; just make it an occasional
treat in small amounts, not a major component of your diet. Learn to

drink

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

your coffee and tea unsweetened. Learn to do without whatever it is that

you

Quoted message said:

are trying to sweeten with substitutes.

Oh, and learn to respond to strangers in newsgroups with courtesy and
reason, not schoolyard namecalling.

--Rich

Do not worry about those who respond to posts with childish remarks!!!
There is a myth put forth by those who want to market expensive and off

time

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dangerous sugar replacements that
table sugar or sucrose is unnatural and unhealthy. It is neither!! As I
mentioned it is one of the most abundant of all
sugars found in nature. It makes up around 10% by weight
of "fruits" like dates.
Sucrose is composed of a glucose and fructose molecule linked together.
In the human body sucrose undergoes hydrolysis to form an equal mixture of
D-glucose and D-fructose. Honey , loved by the table sugar haters, is
largely a mixture of sucrose, D-glucose
and D-fructose. So in effect eating table sugar (sucrose) has the same
effect of eating honey minus the antigens found in honey that can in some
people cause a
fatal reaction.
Eating sugar in moderation is not only NOT fattening but very healthy way
to cut one appetite and lose weight. This
has been know by the ladies of Europe for centuries and is the basis for

the

Quoted message said:

afternoon tea. A little tea with sugar and a sweet cake at around 4:00 in
the after noon serves to raise the blood sugar level and stem the

appetite.

Quoted message said:

So that less
is consumed for the evening meal. The same is true for the morning tea.
One major problem is the English speaking world is that
much of the food consumed is pre-package or pre-prepared
and loaded with extra sugar. Taking a little extra time to prepare food
from the basic ingredients can over come this problem.
Not drinking "soft drinks" by the litre (gallon) is also a good plan.
Also don't stick a bowl of "sugar poofos" in from of your
kid in the morning and then complain about the sugar company causing them

to

Quoted message said:

be over weight with bad teeth.
Get up ten minute early and fix the kid a decent meal.

JO

eat and drink less sweet stuff..>>
Learn to drink your coffee and blah blah>>
Oh, and learn to respond to strangers>>

I remember the good old days of the Internet. You had actually intelligent
folks with informed answers. Now, you have "blather queens" blabbing PC
nostrums and believing it is both: on topic and "helpful". What a blessing if
we could get these sort of windbags disconnected from the Net, and back to
watching their cutesy "stories" on TV.

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/

In article <[email hidden]>,

TonishaWallace said:

eat and drink less sweet stuff..>>
Learn to drink your coffee and blah blah>>
Oh, and learn to respond to strangers>>

I remember the good old days of the Internet. You had actually intelligent
folks with informed answers. Now, you have "blather queens" blabbing PC
nostrums and believing it is both: on topic and "helpful". What a blessing if
we could get these sort of windbags disconnected from the Net, and back to
watching their cutesy "stories" on TV.

Were you born this obnoxious, or did you have to study? BTW, I don't
recall any such sainted days, and I've been on the net since the 80s.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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From: [email hidden] (David Wright)

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Were you born this obnoxious, or did you have to study?

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When you start whining about personalities,don't be surprised that it

generates comments about your own.

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David Wright

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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eat and drink less sweet stuff..>>
Learn to drink your coffee and blah blah>>
Oh, and learn to respond to strangers>>

I remember the good old days of the Internet. You had actually intelligent
folks with informed answers. Now, you have "blather queens" blabbing PC
nostrums and believing it is both: on topic and "helpful". What a blessing

if

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we could get these sort of windbags disconnected from the Net, and back to
watching their cutesy "stories" on TV.

With this attitude, next time someone says "Cross At the Green and Not
In-between" DO NOT TAKE THEIR ADVICE!

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(Someone should invoke Godwins then before this thread kills the server!)

Godwin does not apply.

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Anth

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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> Good idea.

What ducking for cover, Nutrasweet or both ;-) ?

In this case, both. Several years ago I debated these anti-aspartamistas

and

Quoted message said:

was email bnox bombed by them, for showing that Betty Martini was, is,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

always will be, a liar.

You should know that she is the leading nutcase on the net wrt

aspartame.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

She was given a honorary doctorate by a non-accredited bible college and

now

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calls herself doctor. Hulda Clark, and you know how I feel about her,

has

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Quoted message said:

more of a right to call herself doctor.

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Anth

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> > How's about Nutrasweet (*ducks for cover*) ?
> > Anth
> >
> > "TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > I've tried Stevia: BITTER, BITTER.
> > >
> > > And, that other sweetener that is something like 1/3 the

calories

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of

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> > sugar? I
> > > had to use LOTS of it. And, it gives you BAD gas and diarrhea.
> > >
> > > Is there a good (and hopefully natural) sweetener?