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  1. ------------------------------------------------------------
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    A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and
    see the results, please visit
    unicyclist.com29657
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    Question: Are you a juggler as well as a unicyclist?

    - Why, yes, yes I am!
    - No way! Uni through and through!
    - I can juggle, but I haven't in years...
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    Most anyone who has never ridden a unicycle before see's our
    kind as clowns. We've all heard it...

    "So, are you, like, going to join the circus, or something?
    Seems kind of dumb if you ask me..."

    So, I was curious. How many unicyclist in this forum are
    also jugglers? I know there are a bunch of trialers and
    MUniers, which is very different from classical unicycling,
    but does the apple fall far from the tree?

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  2. I can juggle, but I am better at unicycling. My brother is
    the opposite, and can unicycle but is better at juggling.
    Neither of us are clowns, and we both do what we do
    because it is fun, and it involves both body and mind
    coordination. I'm going to the NZ Juggling festival where
    there will hopefully be lots of unicyclists/jugglers. I
    hate it when people ask me if I'm going to join the
    circus. I'm not that talented!

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  3. sockmonster said:

    Question: Are you a juggler as well as a unicyclist?


    I don't juggle. My daughter juggles as well as rides
    unicycles. In fact her (and my!) interest in unicycles stems
    from her circus fascination.

    I haven't bothered to go online and vote. Let alone twice,
    if that even would be possible.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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    Year!

  4. I am a better juggler than a unicycler. I learned how to
    juggle first, which was a couple of years ago. I always
    figured I was too uncoordinated to juggle. I did have access
    to a uni for a week in college, and I was able to ride down
    the street, but my body had forgotten all that.

    I enjoy juggling on a uni for exercise. I can do 3 clubs
    pretty easily on the uni. A group of us pass clubs during
    lunchtime at work, and that's how I learned juggling and
    unicycling, and slack rope walking. I have surpassed the
    others on the uni, but not in juggling, so this newsgroup is
    my encouragement to do more on the uni. I'm now trying to
    idle on the uni, and have made it to as many as 10 cycles.

    I do performances sometimes. I hope to encourage others to
    do things that they never thought they could do. I also, use
    the performance to tell people about what God has taught me
    through juggling. God has a plan for everyone, and he will
    give you the ability to do his plan.

    -Mike McDermott

    "sockmonster"
    <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    Quoted message said:


    ----------------------------------------------------------
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    A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and
    see the results, please visit
    unicyclist.com29657
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    Question: Are you a juggler as well as a unicyclist?

    - Why, yes, yes I am!
    - No way! Uni through and through!
    - I can juggle, but I haven't in years...
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    --------------

    Most anyone who has never ridden a unicycle before see's
    our kind as clowns. We've all heard it...

    "So, are you, like, going to join the circus, or
    something? Seems kind of dumb if you ask me..."

    So, I was curious. How many unicyclist in this forum are
    also jugglers? I know there are a bunch of trialers and
    MUniers, which is very different from classical
    unicycling, but does the apple fall far from the tree?

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    sockmonster

    Funny how in this forum, no one thinks it's weird if
    someone says, "I tacoed my giraffe..."
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  5. Once again the poll didnt work for me but yes, Yes I can
    juggle. I didnt learn because I wanted to join the circus
    just because I was bored one day, and its another thing I
    could cross off my list of things to do.

    Brian-

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  6. Once again the poll didnt work for me but yes, Yes I can
    juggle. I didnt learn because I wanted to join the circus
    just because I was bored one day, and its another thing I
    could cross off my list of things to do.

    Brian-

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  7. I'm probably gonna get yelled at for this, but I feel that
    unicycling is a sport, whereas juggling is not. Maybe it is,
    but not in my feeble mind. I am a unicyclist, not an
    entertainer.

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    Grabbin your butt? That's not very lady-like!

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  8. TheObieOne3226 said:

    *I'm probably gonna get yelled at for this, but I feel
    that unicycling is a sport, whereas juggling is not. Maybe
    it is, but not in my feeble mind. I am a unicyclist, not
    an entertainer. *

    Consider yourself YELLED AT! Juggling is definitely a sport!

    I am a unicyclist, not an entertainer. I am a juggler, not
    an entertainer.

    (Actually I entertain friends on occasion, but I'm a much
    much much better at unicycling and at juggling than I am
    entertaining).

    (Wish I were as good a unicyclist as I am a juggler).

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  9. ..It has started with the son of circus director Ding Dong(in
    "communistic" Poland).entering our class (9-th year=gimnasium).
    Gus was his name(probbably Gustaw).He had long heir - not permitted to
    any student(he protected them saing he needs it for the stage
    performance) and he was clowning and juggling with the chock the moment
    a theacher turned his or her beck while interrogating him by the black
    board.On the top of it being young paid performer he behaved as the
    "growned up" did = he had an air of independence.
    It did not last long and he was gone but we have all got involved with
    the life of the circus and for a while there was a sense of FREEDOM in
    the air in this constantly tense and depressed atmosfere of
    "communism".
    For quite a while I did attempt juggling with 3 objects.I was not good
    at it but the seed of love of circus was planted in me and it has grown
    since.
    The above points to me, somehow, while I become unicyclists.
    Better later then never.😄 😄 😄

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  10. I can barely juggle 3 balls, but I don't ever practice it,
    in contrast to me having gone the last 4 months without a
    day without unicycling, often trials practice.

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  11. "TheObieOne3226" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm probably gonna get yelled at for this, but I feel that
    unicycling is a sport, whereas juggling is not. Maybe it
    is, but not in my feeble mind. I am a unicyclist, not an
    entertainer.


    OK I'll yell, but very quietly. I think neither juggling nor
    unicycling is a sport, both are hobbies/ pastimes. Add the
    element of competition such as does unicycle hockey and you
    then have a sport.

    Following this I looked up "sport" and the first definition
    that came out was: sport: an active diversion requiring
    physical exertion and competition

    So jogging or running in the park would not be sports
    either....but add a track and other runners...

    Naomi

  12. "Sofa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Sport: 'Physical activity that is governed by a set of
    rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.'

    While learning to juggle, I couldn't help but notice how
    much my heart rate increased.

    I think anyone who juggles with knives or chainsaws
    would argue about how extreme riding a unicycle in dirt
    really is

    Not necessarily, I feel far safer juggling knives .
    Chainsaws? I never met anyone who actually does this.

    Naomi

  13. Juggling is indeed exercise. The clubs we use are 8 oz.
    Juggling 1 item takes about 1/2 second, so you are lifting a
    lb/second. I do passing w/ others for
    1/2 hour a day, which is 30*60 = 1800 seconds. Our duty
    cycle is about 80%, due to drops, so every day at lunch we
    lift about 1400 lbs.

    I've noticed my arms are stronger, and my basketball skills
    have improved.

    "KathySusanka"
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    Quoted message said:


    One day while unicycling around the block with my son, I
    passed by a shop window and caught a glimpse of myself
    riding. I noticed that my hands were doing nothing, I
    didn't seem to need them anymore for balance. I could do
    something else while riding, I thought. Maybe I can juggle
    too (or eat). I joined a local juggling club and met the
    nicest bunch of people who taught me how to juggle.
    Putting the unicycle and the juggling together was harder
    than I thought but I finally can do it.

    Juggling is definitely exercise. All that bending and arm
    movement is wonderful for your heart and it can also be
    very competitive to learn new tricks with others.

    We also get the join the circus comments. I have no desire
    to join the circus, I have too much stage fright for that.
    I'm usually disappointed in what I see of juggling and
    unicycling at the circus. I have often thought, I have
    friends (and kids) who can do better that that. To be
    fair, I have seen some impressive stuff on occasion.

    A really good way to [censored] my daughter (who also
    unicycles and juggles) is to suggest that she go to Clown
    College. That comment usually results some stomping off
    and door slamming.

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  14. I've been juggling since I was about 10, I have only been
    riding a unicylce for about a year (I'm 30).

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  15. I'm a Klown guys, I don't mean your ordinary circus clown
    (note spelling difference) I mean I'm an Xtreme kinda guy.
    I'm out there to take unicycling just alittle bit further
    than others have thought of. I juggle and unicycle and I
    don't intend to join the circus, Infact I don't have much
    love for the circus at all. IN MY OPINION juggling is somit
    people do to pass the time. Unicycling is an Xtreme sport
    which has no bounderies. How you guys can compare the two I
    don't know, but I don't know alot of things

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  16. Sport: 'Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules
    or customs and often engaged in competitively.'

    While learning to juggle, I couldn't help but notice how
    much my heart rate increased.

    I think anyone who juggles with knives or chainsaws would
    argue about how extreme riding a unicycle in dirt really is

    --
    Sofa - You Tu Tu Tuni?

    'Unicycle Product Reviews'
    (brianmackenzie.comunicycleReviews.aspx)

    'London Unicycling Club Website ' (brianmackenzie.comLUC)
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  17. One day while unicycling around the block with my son, I
    passed by a shop window and caught a glimpse of myself
    riding. I noticed that my hands were doing nothing, I didn’t
    seem to need them anymore for balance. I could do something
    else while riding, I thought. Maybe I can juggle too (or
    eat). I joined a local juggling club and met the nicest
    bunch of people who taught me how to juggle. Putting the
    unicycle and the juggling together was harder than I thought
    but I finally can do it.

    Juggling is definitely exercise. All that bending and arm
    movement is wonderful for your heart and it can also be very
    competitive to learn new tricks with others.

    We also get the join the circus comments. I have no desire
    to join the circus, I have too much stage fright for that.
    I’m usually disappointed in what I see of juggling and
    unicycling at the circus. I have often thought, I have
    friends (and kids) who can do better that that. To be fair,
    I have seen some impressive stuff on occasion.

    A really good way to [censored] my daughter (who also
    unicycles and juggles) is to suggest that she go to Clown
    College. That comment usually results some stomping off and
    door slamming.

    --
    KathySusanka - Can I make this thing go Backwards?

    Rock is Dead!
    Long live Paper and Sissors!
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  18. I picked the third option, not so much because I haven't
    juggled in years, but because I juggle so infrequently. It's
    difficult for me to collect items appropriate for juggling.
    I prefer doing a cascade of a one ton block of blue polar
    ice, a live hyena, and a BMW Mini filled with coeds taking
    inane snaps with their cell-phone-cameras. Assembling a trio
    like that takes an inordinate amount of time.

    --
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    -Greg Harper

    B L U E S H I F T

    "I hope to be a 90 year old guy who rides his unicycle to the store for
    whiskey and condoms." -J.D. Miller

    "Old people give me money, because I deliver their paper!" -
    James_Potter

    "Who needs fancy words and poetic prose to describe a ride when you have
    photos?"- JC

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  19. Ya know, it's been a while since we've had a Juggling Poll ('are you a
    juggler?' (tinyurl.com2qk4s) & 'Attention Unicyclists, I was
    Wondering...' (tinyurl.com2cxnb))😄

    I can juggle three balls, rings, or scarves. Clubs still
    master me more than I master them.

    How come juggling doesn't suffer the same Circus Stigma as
    unicycling?

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  20. I started juggling over ten years ago and got quite good,
    mainly working on developing a lot of intricate three ball
    tricks and combinations.

    Also did diablo, devil sticks, double devil sticks, club
    passing, contact and learnt to unicycle.

    My unicycling was infrequent and indoors and only took off a
    couple of years ago when I started ridng outdoors and got in
    to muni type stuff.

    It's annoying that peole associate unicycling mainly with
    circus/performance/entertainment, but I feel it's also
    important to not make the same mistake with juggling.

    To me the juggling stuff was something I did mainly for the
    skill development aspects, also to meet similar people; the
    association with entertainment I found a little tiring.

    I know a few people who took their juggling skills into a
    performance career, and generally they feel their love of
    the art suffered as a result- most performances consist of
    audience engagement with the juggling being a mere tool i.e.
    simple tricks done in a silly manner.

    Just prior to getting into muni I also started poi spinning
    which pretty much replaced the juggling stuff because the
    skills involved much more whole body movement and it is a
    more introspective art than juggling.

    i.e. when you see a good fire poi spinner doing a
    performance the feeling is that they are doing
    the moves for their own sake, whereas for
    juggling to be appealing to an audience it's
    necessary for the performer to constantly be
    interacting with the audience.

    I do, and have performed, usually fire poi/spinning, but I
    prefer running workshops because, for me, the true value
    of these skills is not their performance aspects, but the
    fact they are accessible and valuable (they have been for
    me anyway).

    --
    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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