Is my appearance me?

jes wrote:
|| I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if
|| possible, Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower
|| an elevated liver reading. There are things I want to do in
|| my remaining time in this world, and overweight makes it
|| either difficult or outright prohibitive. I do not weigh. I
|| cannot answer the question "how much have you lost?"
||
|| But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim,
|| ranting of "how good you look." I've told one person my
|| reasons, over and over, yet her sole emphasis is on looks.
||
|| Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
|| accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?
||
|| Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that
|| it's important they endorse me as approved?
||
|| If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate
|| them to support us in a health life style choice?
||
|| I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know
|| it isn't enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained
|| weight in the past. Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless
|| that does it!! ;-)
|| Anyone agree with me?
||
|| Joan

Looks are one facet of who you are along with everything else.
Different people place varying degrees of importance on it. It
is the first thing you notice about a person when meeting them.
It is the only thing people that don't know/never meet you know
about you. Usually the better someone gets to know you the
less important it becomes.

BJ

jes wrote:
|| Anyone agree with me?

No.

health is #1 but looking good doesn't hurt anything. Take what you can get
in this life and run with it.

"jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Your motivation has to come from inside you, or it's not worth anything. If
it feels good when people praise you, that's cool - but it needs to
supplement your own sense of self-worth. Which you clearly have, or you
wouldn't be bothered by your friend's insistence on looks as a prime worth
measurer!

Personally, I'd be happier if the face in the mirror didn't look so much
like my Dad these days...

Nicky.

--
HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

when I rant and rave about how fabulous someone looks, it is usually because
they are oozing vitality and sunshine and happiness..

I want to lose weight because I am tired of looking like a hag. Plain and
simple. Forget all the health benefits of losing 100+ lbs. I see women all
the time that look 20 years older than I do, all because they dont take care
of themselves, and I know that I look the same way.

Yes, am teaching my children to love themselves and their bodies no matter
how they look, and how to make proper nutritional and lifestyle choices.
However, I do secretly gloat over their long, lean bodies--thank god for
their father's genes!

I would love for one of my friends to rave about how fabulous I look, and
they wouldnt have to even mention one word about all my other
accomplishments in my life. Bring it on! I'm ready!

Glitter Girl
"jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Joan

"jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

I think people focus on looks because it's a more tangible concept. They
can see it, it is right in front of them. Also, for some to focus on your
health, then they have to take stock in their own, and it may not be
comfortable for them.

Or they might just be really shallow people. ;o) Unfortunately, appearance
is our first impression we have of people. It's just how human nature is.

--
Lisa
208/159.5/145-150
High weight in 2004: 228
Low-carb since June 2004

Quoted message said:

Looks are one facet of who you are along with everything else.

Putting a positive spin on it:

Looks are only one facet, but it is the fact that *you* changed, Jes.
Always remember that the change is something you earned by
your own actions. People REact to your looks; you're the one who
ACTed to change them.

All the other facets of you have not changed, and people's reactions
to all of those other faces have not changed.

It is much easier to notice things that change. Watch for what did
not change. You will notice that looks are only a part of the deal
and much else has remained unchanged.

Quoted message said:

Different people place varying degrees of importance on it.

Exactly. There are shallow people, deep people, and people
everywhere in that spectrum.

In article <[email hidden]>,

jes said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Joan

Sorta. I sorta agree, and I sorta don't. As humans, we are wired to be
attracted to healthy people of breeding age, and the first sign of
someone's health is how they look. Clear skin, shiny hair, strong white
teeth, and a healthy body are signs of health. Symmetrical features are
one sign of good genetics. People can not tell at a glance what your
bloodwork would show, but they can tell from your weight that you chances
of diabetes and heart problems are lower now than when you were heavier.
So, if they say you look more attractive, they are in a sense saying you
look healthier, since our definitions of "attractiveness" are based largely
on health.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article <[email hidden]>,

jes said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Joan

This is a question I ask all the time. My so-called friends are
OBSESSED with how I look, not with how I feel, or how I am. I have
pruned several people from my life based on that particular foible,
because I certainly do NOT judge them by what they look like, and never
would. I DO, however, judge them by how they treat other people, and
when it came to my attention that they treat me like [censored], that was that.

Unfortunately, in our society today, very often looks do trump
accomplishments and abilities. It's what it is. I don't like it, but
it's what it is. The real question, for me at any rate, is this: do I
have to keep the people for whom the belief that looks are more
important than any other thing close to me, part of my inner circle?
And my personal answer is "no." Your mileage may, of course, vary.

--
Nancy Howells (don't forget to switch it, and replace the 😉 to send mail).

Graphic Queen said:

jes said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

That is what this country is anymore. The only thing people think
about is money and looks and nothing else seems to matter. Thank
society for this type of thinking.

gosh. you're not way overgeneralizing, are you?

The way you look to them is the only way they have of assessing your
condition. They cannot feel what you feel. Maybe included in their view
that you look good is the fact that you look healthier, happier, more
lively--all reflections of better health. You are asking a lot of people to
ask them to ignore how you look, I think it is more than just conditioning,
it is genetic. Studies show that people are attracted to certain physical
characteristics, even at a very young age.

And it's hard for me to believe that you don't care at all how you look.
Don't you choose a hair style that you think looks good on you? Wear
clothes that are attractive?

In news:[email hidden],
jes <[email hidden]> stated
| I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
| Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
| reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
| world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
| prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
| have you lost?"
|
| But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting
| of "how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and
| over, yet her sole emphasis is on looks.
|
| Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
| accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?
|
| Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
| important they endorse me as approved?
|
| If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
| support us in a health life style choice?
|
| I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
| enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
| Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
| Anyone agree with me?
|
| Joan

(I'm a lurker, but this interesting)

"jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Joan

I totally understand your point on this. I've lost 83lbs (300/217/190) so
far on Atkins and people comment how great I look; this bothered me a lot,
for the same reasons you've stated... But thinking about it, I've realized
that outward appearance is a reflection of your mentality toward yourself
and the efforts you were able to put forth, that a lot of people won't even
attempt. What I mean by that: this fat I've had on my body has been a result
of lack of respect for myself and my body, and decisions on my part.

I still have a ways to go, and people have been telling me I should stop
losing weight (i.e., I look 'fine'😉 but this is beyond looking good for me
and maybe some of you see it the same. I'm looking to rid myself of the
visible scars in the form of fat from bad decisions and no respect for
myself and my health; and an appearance which has caused me shame and
embarrassment for most of my life. I've set my goal weight at 190, the
weight for the normal range BMI for my height and build, 6'2" and large
frame. I'm presuming this will leave me with a below average body fat
percentage. I will re-evaluate my weight-loss goals once I reach it, and if
I still feel I have excess body fat, I will continue to lose. Like I said,
its not about if I look better 'filled in' as most people tell me, but its
about getting this jelly suit off of my true form 🙂

To give people credit though, the SECOND question they usually ask is 'How
do you feel?', which I presume they're associating with health, so at least
it's somewhere on the list of reasons to lose weight for the general public.
They're surprised when I tell them about my blood work readings, all of
which have dropped well into the normal range since I started Atkins (esp.
cholesterol). I guess I feel I'm doing my part to spread the word about the
diet, which, when done properly, can literally rescue even the most
overweight of us from death and disease.

So, I say be happy you're receiving compliments. No, your appearance isn't
who you are, but the mental facilities that allowed you to achieve that
appearance is who you are... and what they're complimenting is, in a way,
that effort and determination.

BTW, thanks to the group for all the info, it has made this weight-loss much
easier then it should have been for me.

-Nick

Nick wrote:
|| (I'm a lurker, but this interesting)
||
|| "jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if
||| possible, Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an
||| elevated liver reading. There are things I want to do in my
||| remaining time in this world, and overweight makes it either
||| difficult or outright
||| prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how
||| much have you lost?"
|||
||| But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim,
||| ranting of "how good you look." I've told one person my reasons,
||| over and over,
||| yet her sole emphasis is on looks.
|||
||| Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
||| accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?
|||
||| Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
||| important they endorse me as approved?
|||
||| If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
||| support us in a health life style choice?
|||
||| I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it
||| isn't enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in
||| the past. Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!!
||| ;-)
||| Anyone agree with me?
|||
||| Joan
|||
||
|| I totally understand your point on this. I've lost 83lbs
|| (300/217/190) so far on Atkins and people comment how great I look;
|| this bothered me a lot, for the same reasons you've stated... But
|| thinking about it, I've realized that outward appearance is a
|| reflection of your mentality toward yourself and the efforts you
|| were able to put forth, that a lot of people won't even attempt.
|| What I mean by that: this fat I've had on my body has been a result
|| of lack of respect for myself and my body, and decisions on my part.
||
|| I still have a ways to go, and people have been telling me I should
|| stop losing weight (i.e., I look 'fine'😉 but this is beyond looking
|| good for me and maybe some of you see it the same. I'm looking to
|| rid myself of the visible scars in the form of fat from bad
|| decisions and no respect for myself and my health; and an appearance
|| which has caused me shame and embarrassment for most of my life.
|| I've set my goal weight at 190, the weight for the normal range BMI
|| for my height and build, 6'2" and large frame. I'm presuming this
|| will leave me with a below average body fat percentage. I will
|| re-evaluate my weight-loss goals once I reach it, and if I still
|| feel I have excess body fat, I will continue to lose. Like I said,
|| its not about if I look better 'filled in' as most people tell me,
|| but its about getting this jelly suit off of my true form 🙂
||
|| To give people credit though, the SECOND question they usually ask
|| is 'How do you feel?', which I presume they're associating with
|| health, so at least it's somewhere on the list of reasons to lose
|| weight for the general public. They're surprised when I tell them
|| about my blood work readings, all of which have dropped well into
|| the normal range since I started Atkins (esp. cholesterol). I guess
|| I feel I'm doing my part to spread the word about the diet, which,
|| when done properly, can literally rescue even the most overweight of
|| us from death and disease.
||
|| So, I say be happy you're receiving compliments. No, your appearance
|| isn't who you are, but the mental facilities that allowed you to
|| achieve that appearance is who you are... and what they're
|| complimenting is, in a way, that effort and determination.
||
|| BTW, thanks to the group for all the info, it has made this
|| weight-loss much easier then it should have been for me.
||
|| -Nick

Nick - Did you count calories or just carbs to lose your 83 lbs? Good job,
BTW.

jes said:

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

Everybody in America is so fat these days that when I visit the U.S. I
don't get a second glance. Nobody seems to care. Even in Japan nobody
seems to notice much.

To me, besides health, the main reasons I want to lose weight are
practical reasons:

* I'd like to be able to buy clothes anywhere instead of special corners
of special shops where everything is overpriced and there is a lack of
choice.

* I'd like to be able to fit comfortably in economy airline seats and
not have to worry if the dinner tray hits my stomach and even use my
notebook computer in tight places.

* The same thing goes for sitting and fitting in anywhere - cafes, movie
theaters, subway seats, etc.

I just want to fit in more comfortably in a world that is not quite
designed for my body size.

And then when you add on the health reasons it becomes even more obvious!

How I look to other people isn't really on my list. There are plenty of
chubby chasers out there (especially here in Japan!) so I am actually
going to end up disappointing them if I am ever successful at my diet. 🙂

doug

"jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

If you want people to support you, you really need to drop the
everyone-can-go-to-hell attitude. It's not the best way to win friends and
influence people and comes across as antisocial and egocentric. It is you
who are outside the norm by pretending not to place any value on improved
looks, not the people who compliment you on your weight loss. You come
across to them as having a whole wheelbarrowful of false modesty.

I too am on my low-carb plan mainly for the health benefits. But the
improved looks is sure a nice bonus, and that's what people notice. Why are
you getting so bent out of shape over the obvious?

And if you choose not to weigh, bear in mind that it is you who are
operating outside the norm -- not the people who ask you how much you have
lost. Who said that your other life's accomplishments are diddly because
you're fat? Sounds like you're projecting your own subconscious (or
conscious) insecurities on the caring people around you.

Lighten up and accept the compliments graciously! How can people support
you when you have a viscious attitude with a rigid wall around you?

IMO.

Peter

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Nick wrote:
|| (I'm a lurker, but this interesting)
||
|| "jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<snip>

Quoted message said:

Nick - Did you count calories or just carbs to lose your 83 lbs? Good
job,
BTW.

I do not count calories, but I do keep it within the induction phase, for
the most part. I started on the usual 15 - 20g, and now stay steady at 25g
per day. I stall for a few weeks, then all of a sudden will drop 4 - 5lbs at
a time. I eat as much foods containing fiber as I can (the new flax wraps
have almost 35% of the DA, and 4 - 6 grams carbs each... these have helped
me a lot). I also avoid the artificial sweeteners and this new 'sugar
alchohol' craze - I don't trust that labeling, as they don't recommend them
for diabetics, so I'm presuming its some labeling trick. I will eat things
containing Splenda though.

We are all lucky that the food industry is picking up products left and
right and making them low carb. I tried the diet 3 or 4 years ago and
couldn't take it longer then a month. Meat and cheese alone were starting to
revolt me. Now, high fiber wraps, Splenda sweetened products and that new
low carb milk (Hood) has made it easier to remain ultra-low carb; I almost
consider it easier then low-fat. I can't wait for maintenance though; I've
been wanting to eat a peach (haha, of all things) since I started.

Here are my before and after pictures:

http://www.amomentsworth.com/nick/before.jpg
http://www.amomentsworth.com/nick/after.jpg

The before was me at roughly 315, 2 years ago. I dropped 10 lbs or so on my
own via a low fat diet and exercise (this took nearly 4 months...). I stayed
steady at 300 - 305 until last March (04), and decided this is not what I
should be doing to myself. After was last week at my godson's christening,
at 217lbs.

Nick

Nick wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| Nick wrote:
||||| (I'm a lurker, but this interesting)
|||||
||||| "jes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||| news:[email hidden]...
|| <snip>
||| Nick - Did you count calories or just carbs to lose your 83 lbs?
||| Good job,
||| BTW.
||
|| I do not count calories, but I do keep it within the induction
|| phase, for the most part. I started on the usual 15 - 20g, and now
|| stay steady at 25g per day. I stall for a few weeks, then all of a
|| sudden will drop 4 - 5lbs at a time. I eat as much foods containing
|| fiber as I can (the new flax wraps have almost 35% of the DA, and 4
|| - 6 grams carbs each... these have helped me a lot). I also avoid
|| the artificial sweeteners and this new 'sugar alchohol' craze - I
|| don't trust that labeling, as they don't recommend them for
|| diabetics, so I'm presuming its some labeling trick. I will eat
|| things containing Splenda though.
||
|| We are all lucky that the food industry is picking up products left
|| and right and making them low carb. I tried the diet 3 or 4 years
|| ago and couldn't take it longer then a month. Meat and cheese alone
|| were starting to revolt me. Now, high fiber wraps, Splenda sweetened
|| products and that new low carb milk (Hood) has made it easier to
|| remain ultra-low carb; I almost consider it easier then low-fat. I
|| can't wait for maintenance though; I've been wanting to eat a peach
|| (haha, of all things) since I started.
||
|| Here are my before and after pictures:
||
|| http://www.amomentsworth.com/nick/before.jpg
|| http://www.amomentsworth.com/nick/after.jpg

Good job, man! Thanks for the report. I think you meet Doug Lerner's
criteria for a LC success!

||
|| The before was me at roughly 315, 2 years ago. I dropped 10 lbs or
|| so on my own via a low fat diet and exercise (this took nearly 4
|| months...). I stayed steady at 300 - 305 until last March (04), and
|| decided this is not what I should be doing to myself. After was last
|| week at my godson's christening, at 217lbs.
||
|| Nick

jes said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Anyone who lives with the kind of looks-based value system you describe
is going to have a serious meltdown as they hit their 50s. We all lose
our looks as we get older. The old saying, "By 40 you get the face you
deserve" is very true. Women investing heavily in botox and plastic
surgery are deluding themselves that they look young. They look like
middle aged women who have had surgery and botox.

I feel very fortunate that I met the love of my life when I was 47 and
already wrinkly and that I was at my fattest during our first three
years together, because what I learned from that was that this wonderful
man loves me for who I am, not for my surface. So unlike a lot of older
women, I'm not living in terror of the day when he dumps me for someone
half my age.

When I was younger, I had a great figure, and I attracted far too many
men who lied to me in every possible way so that they could "get a
piece" of what they saw and brag about it to their friends. I don't know
if any of them ever saw anything but the great [censored]. It really wasn't
until I got older that men (a lot fewer of them) responded to what I am
inside.

Mostly, now that I'm a middle aged woman, no one pays any attention to
what I look like. I low carb (and lost weight) to control my diabetes
but people in our small town are constantly confusing me with another
woman my age (a personal acquaintance) who weighs at least 40 lbs more
than I do. We have similar hair styles, and as far as I can tell, people
don't go much past thinking, "Middle aged lady, long curly hair" when
they see us. Since we are middle aged they don't even look at the
bodies. <g>

--Jenny Type 2 diabetes since 1998. Hba1c 5.7%
Low Carbing for 5 years. 140 lbs (goal)

Cut the "carbs" to respond to my email address.
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I agree that looks is everything. But who is she?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=28372

PJ

jes said:

I went on Atkins for 2 valid health reasons: (1) avoid, if possible,
Adult type 2 diabetes and (2) see if it would lower an elevated liver
reading. There are things I want to do in my remaining time in this
world, and overweight makes it either difficult or outright
prohibitive. I do not weigh. I cannot answer the question "how much
have you lost?"

But I keep getting this chorus, ad nauseum and ad infinitim, ranting of
"how good you look." I've told one person my reasons, over and over,
yet her sole emphasis is on looks.

Like that's more important? Like none of my other life's
accomplishments are diddly because I'm fat?

Do I really care what my looks are to another person and that it's
important they endorse me as approved?

If we want people to support us, then maybe we can educate them to
support us in a health life style choice?

I fall into the preening from the look-good praise, but know it isn't
enough to keep me focused. I have lost and gained weight in the past.
Looks isn't enough. It's scared witless that does it!! ;-)
Anyone agree with me?

Joan

When people offer their judgment as to what I should or should not do,
I'm reminded of the adages "you don't get a vote on my issues" and
"your opinion of me is none of my business."