Is Kerry a Fred?

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you decide.

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you

decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

On 05/03/2004 04:25 AM, in article
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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
decide.

I'll bet the t-shirts are simply campaign tools for photo ops. If he wasn't
currently on the campaign trail, there'd be a jersey instead of a t-shirt.

http://www.campyonly.com/images/rumors/2004/kerry-shimano.jpeg

Looks like a long-sleeve jersey under that t-shirt ...

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"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:BCBB856C.2F6C8%
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http://www.campyonly.com/images/rumors/2004/kerry-shimano.jpeg

Didn't they notice he's riding Shimano? Once they figure that out, they'll
endorse W., for sure.

duh... people.

he is from crashachusetts.. maybe he was trained
by tyler (did you notice that Zulle crashed AGAIN
on saturday and did not finish the TdeRom?)

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you

decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you

decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

This is bad news. He's riding a bike so he must be doing drugs as well!!

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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This story would be of great interest to rbr participants I would suspect
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGALVR3VRTD.html

Compare to Bush falling off of a Segway:

http://www.bikexprt.com/witness/product/bushfalls.htm

JP

He's not a Fred. I would just say he's a guy on a bike, happens to
have a nice frame, so just let him ride w/o judgement. (Maybe there
should be another word for people who don't particulary care if they
have the perfect bike/clothing/accessory setup, and would rather
ride.) Freds aren't the menace that you would think from reading this
NG. In my experience, stuck up [censored] racers far outnumber Freds,
and do a lot more to harm the sport.

Mort

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you

decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
decide.

10spd dura-ace too. I'm jealous.
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Alex

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you

decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

Fredliness is next to spudliness.

At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
does ride as often as he can.

Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
less of that was seen from either.

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duh... people.

he is from crashachusetts.. maybe he was trained
by tyler (did you notice that Zulle crashed AGAIN
on saturday and did not finish the TdeRom?)

Zulle is training specifically for the TdF stage that finishes on Ile
d'Oleron in 2005.

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr

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y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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This story would be of great interest to rbr participants I would suspect
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGALVR3VRTD.html

If you even have to ask, that makes you one as well.

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He's not a Fred. I would just say he's a guy on a bike, happens to
have a nice frame, so just let him ride w/o judgement.

As stated eslewhere makes you a Fred too.

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(Maybe there
should be another word for people who don't particulary care if they
have the perfect bike/clothing/accessory setup, and would rather
ride.)

We already have a word for that, now don't we? You miss the point entirely.
Anyone that buys a race bike and uses it to tool around is a Fred.

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Freds aren't the menace that you would think from reading this
NG. In my experience, stuck up [censored] racers far outnumber Freds,
and do a lot more to harm the sport.

Mort

This is true, but they are still Freds.

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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt.

you

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decide.

Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

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"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
decide.

Very cool! He now has my vote.

Henry Etta

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At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
does ride as often as he can.

I can't wait until he in the White House to see a squad of Secret Service
Agents in his peloton. <G>

Henry Etta

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Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
less of that was seen from either.

"JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Compare to Bush
falling off of a Segway:

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http://www.bikexprt.com/witness/product/bushfalls.htm

JP

Is that Bush's bicycle in the background?

Henry Etta

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Is that Bush's bicycle in the background?

Henry Etta

Can't be, not enough wheels to be his human powered cycle, and the moped is
out in the garage with the limo.
Bill C

"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 05/03/2004 04:25 AM, in article
[email hidden], "otto" <[email hidden]>

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"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/05/02/kerr
y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF

At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20040502SRS101

serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
decide.

I'll bet the t-shirts are simply campaign tools for photo ops. If he wasn't
currently on the campaign trail, there'd be a jersey instead of a t-shirt.

http://www.campyonly.com/images/rumors/2004/kerry-shimano.jpeg

Looks like a long-sleeve jersey under that t-shirt ...

Longsleeve OGWGFIW jersey?

Hey, he's modestly decked out. Imagine how preposterous that would
look with carbon or trispoke wheels. At least he's got good taste in
bikes ... could have been an old Varsity...

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Is he riding the bike for votes? Yes.

Is he riding the bike even if it costs him votes? No.