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  1. Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst thing
    for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come here for
    support...this being a support group. I find that I don't want to ask for
    help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling
    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the corner
    tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I will be going
    back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    curt said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst thing
    for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come here for
    support...this being a support group. I find that I don't want to ask for
    help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling
    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the corner
    tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I will be going
    back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

    Don't fear JC. Just like in real life, you can't control anyone's behavior
    but your own. It's all in how you choose to react to someone, that's
    _your_ power.

    Anyway, I too have impulse control problems if I drink too much. But I
    also don't want to totally cut alcohol out of my life. So here are some
    things I do to make sure I limit myself and don't go overboard on either
    alcohol or food:

    I don't drink at home. I go out once a week and that's when I drink. I
    eat a satisfying low-carb meal before I go. I take only enough cash to buy
    two light beers. I finish my second beer about an hour and half before I
    plan to leave, and drink water the rest of the time I'm there, or a diet
    coke if my friend is working, 'cause she won't charge me for it. For me,
    that's enough alcohol to feel a slight buzz, but not enough to tempt me to
    order the chicken fingers and fries, and even if I did want them I don't
    have enough money!

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  3. "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    JC sniffs out a person that is feeling

    Quoted message said:

    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    JC der Koenig . Jesus Christ the King. Hah.

  4. Quoted message said:

    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    JC sniffs out a person that is feeling

    Quoted message said:

    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?



    From: "dejablues"

    Quoted message said:

    JC der Koenig . Jesus Christ the King. Hah.


    I have a better name for him. It's been a awhile since I called him that. I did
    it out of anger once. Its too bad to say again. 🙂

    Curt...
    I too am having the same problem, well I was having that problem. I would cheat
    every weekend, it lasted around 6 weeks. I got the will power again to stick to
    it. I been tempted by spagetti, cookies, bread, ice cream (not the low carb
    kind).. This weekend. I look at the trigger food, and just talk to myself in
    the head.

    Like.. If you eat that, you will go back to where you were before, not feeling
    well most of the time, depression, moody, leg swelling, IBS, feeling crappy
    period. It's not worth it. I put the food or drink down. I walk away from it.

  5. LOL

    Did that dog die yet?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst thing
    for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come here for
    support...this being a support group. I find that I don't want to ask for
    help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling
    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the corner
    tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I will be going
    back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

  6. CarbAddict said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: curt (Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:29:08 GMT)
    MsgId: <[email hidden]>

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the
    worst thing for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I
    like to come here for support...this being a support group. I
    find that I don't want to ask for help here anymore because if
    you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling down and tries to
    put him/her down further.

    No, it isn't just you.

    It isn't just JC. It is exacerbated when his supporters rally to his
    aid and get on YOU for letting him affect you rather than getting on
    HIM for being a jerk to begin with.

    People will say things like words shouldn't affect you while ignoring
    the obvious conundrum of why anyone would come to a support group in
    the first place (to hear _words_ of encouragement -- they obviously
    can affect).

    I don't mind jostling with JC, but it is a shame this environment of
    support requires dealing with his poisonous spirit along with whatever
    other demons folks coming here need to take on.

    That said, keep on keeping on. One monkey don't stop no show. Your
    overall progress is great and a few "setbacks" mean nothing in the
    grand scheme of things. Remember your temptations, and remember your
    solutions. You've beat your temptations before and you can beat them
    again.

    I just read this and I have to say I like you! :-) This was a kind,
    reasonable, rational resonse. Well done!

    --
    nimue

    "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
    influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
    Joss Whedon

  7. curt said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst thing
    for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come here for
    support...this being a support group. I find that I don't want to ask for
    help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling
    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    JC? whose that?

    Oh wait you mean that person who never shows up in my newsgroup.
    Learn to use filters to automatically delete all posts by such
    bothersome people. Once you do you see a much more reasonable group of
    people exist here.

    I don't use Outlook express but I'm pretty sure if you highlight a
    message posted by an annoyance you can find a menu option to add a
    filter or block and instruct Outlook Express to automatically delete
    all posts from this person. Presto! annoyance gone. The only echoes of
    him will be when someon else quotes them when they choose to respond
    to him.

    There are several people I put on the kill filter list. If you are
    going to use Usenet Newsgroups you must learn how to filter out the
    ever-present background noise.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the corner
    tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I will be going
    back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

    DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
    350/277/Jun-273/200
    Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
    OWL-40 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    CarbAddict said:


    I don't mind jostling with JC, but it is a shame this environment of
    support requires dealing with his poisonous spirit along with whatever
    other demons folks coming here need to take on.

    No it doesn't. You can killfile him.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  9. "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is


    the worst thing

    Quoted message said:

    for me and it changes my whole outlook.

    Beer, especially in summer, is one of my two nightmares on
    LC. (The other is chocolate at any time of the year.) Beer
    is especially bad for me because it triggers all the other
    "carb-addictions": pizza, Doritos, etc etc

    "Just say 'no'."

    --
    Bob
    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  10. CarbAddict said:

    People will say things like words shouldn't affect you while ignoring the
    obvious conundrum of why anyone would come to a support group in the first
    place (to hear _words_ of encouragement -- they obviously can affect).

    Yeah, this dichotomy has always confused me. Words do have a function
    and they do have a purpose.

  11. curt said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst
    thing for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come
    here for support...this being a support group. I find that I don't
    want to ask for help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a
    person that is feeling down and tries to put him/her down further. I
    guess he does this to prop himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the
    corner tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I
    will be going back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

    And I find I spend less and less time writing supportive advice and
    suggestions because most of the time the person asking for support focuses
    on JC and his followers and doesn't even bother thanking the people that
    actually took the time to help. Seriously. Watch the threads. Someone will
    ask for help then get into an argument with JC. Meanwhile ten other people
    have written lengthy worthwhile advice. While the OP has enough time to
    reply 50 times to JC, the rest who actually helped (if they're lucky) may,
    several days later, get a general "thanks everyone, except JC, for the
    help".

    "Take what you need and leave the rest." has always been a Usenet truism. I
    suggest you write it down, tape it to your monitor, and take the advice to
    heart.
    --
    Jeri
    "Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

  12. "CarbAddict" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: curt (Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:29:08 GMT)
    MsgId: <[email hidden]>

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the
    worst thing for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I
    like to come here for support...this being a support group. I
    find that I don't want to ask for help here anymore because if
    you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling down and tries to
    put him/her down further.

    No, it isn't just you.

    It isn't just JC. It is exacerbated when his supporters rally to his aid
    and get on YOU for letting him affect you rather than getting on HIM for
    being a jerk to begin with.

    People will say things like words shouldn't affect you while ignoring the
    obvious conundrum of why anyone would come to a support group in the first
    place (to hear _words_ of encouragement -- they obviously can affect).

    I don't mind jostling with JC, but it is a shame this environment of
    support requires dealing with his poisonous spirit along with whatever
    other demons folks coming here need to take on.

    That said, keep on keeping on. One monkey don't stop no show. Your overall
    progress is great and a few "setbacks" mean nothing in the grand scheme of
    things. Remember your temptations, and remember your solutions. You've


    beat

    Quoted message said:

    your temptations before and you can beat them again.

    Thanks,
    Curt

  13. "Ignoramus30884" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi Curt, happens to the best of us, but could it be that you lost too
    much weight?

    Like others, I suggest dropping drinking entirely...

    i

    Yeah, I may have to. I just love good beers and in Pennsylvania, we have
    some really good mico's. Lancaster, Victory, Stoudts to name a few.

    I guess I will do my best. I was okay when I would have one bad day a week,
    but that turned into two and three and then four and then I start to gain.

    Enjoy,
    Curt

  14. curt said:

    I find that I don't
    want to ask for help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a
    person that is feeling down and tries to put him/her down further.

    You mean you don't have JC killfiled? That makes it much more pleasant here.
    I never see anything he says unless someone else quotes him, which,
    unfortunately, does happen more than I would like. Hope you can hang in
    there, and come here for the *most* of us who are relatively decent and
    supportive folks. :-)

    Debbie

  15. "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    curt said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst
    thing for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come
    here for support...this being a support group. I find that I don't
    want to ask for help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a
    person that is feeling down and tries to put him/her down further. I
    guess he does this to prop himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the
    corner tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I
    will be going back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

    And I find I spend less and less time writing supportive advice and
    suggestions because most of the time the person asking for support focuses
    on JC and his followers and doesn't even bother thanking the people that
    actually took the time to help. Seriously. Watch the threads. Someone will
    ask for help then get into an argument with JC. Meanwhile ten other people
    have written lengthy worthwhile advice. While the OP has enough time to
    reply 50 times to JC, the rest who actually helped (if they're lucky) may,
    several days later, get a general "thanks everyone, except JC, for the
    help".

    "Take what you need and leave the rest." has always been a Usenet truism.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    suggest you write it down, tape it to your monitor, and take the advice to
    heart.
    --
    Jeri
    "Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

    Yeah, I agree. I see that happen with the OP all the time. JC starts an
    argument and the support the person asked for is lost.

    Good point,
    Curt

  16. curt said:

    Yeah, I agree. I see that happen with the OP all the time. JC
    starts an argument

    You completely missed my point. It takes two to have an argument. No one can
    'start' anything unless someone else joins in.

    Quoted message said:

    and the support the person asked for is lost.

    It's not lost, it just ends up being less important to them than getting the
    last word in. And if people who do post support get the feeling that it's
    not really important then what's the point of continuing to do it?
    --
    Jeri
    "Take what you need and leave the rest."
    - old Usenet proverb

  17. Quoted message said:

    LOL
    Did that dog die yet?

    To All the nice people in alt.support.diet.low-carb who are just here to try
    and help one another with their eating lifestyle:

    Obviously JC has issues. Note post here as example. Looks like his buttons
    get pushed when he senses vulnerability or injury in someone else.

    In reality that doesn't mean JC has to have access to those buttons.

    Its up to you to get your own buttons out of range. Short of that if your
    button(s) do get pushed then its up to you to let it slide gently into the
    mud.

    Besides ... this NG is supposed to be about low-carbers not carpers, isn't
    it? Just ignore the OT remarks and mush on. Er ... maybe I should say
    "bacon on" since mush, I'm quite sure, is not low-carb.

  18. Curt,

    If you aren't reading this newsgroup via a newsgroup reader that can hide
    posts from jerks, make the change. It will do wonders for your enjoyment of
    the newsgroup.

    I've seen a huge drop off in traffic here these past couple months partially
    because of the end-of-college invasion of the trolls, and partly because
    far too many regulars on this newsgroup predictably respond to every troll
    posting with flurries of their own which encourage the trolls to keep up
    their destructive posting. There have also been so many off topic posts
    that aren't marked OT that I have found myself reading only a handful of
    posts where the topic is clearly diet related. If a regular like me has cut
    way back on reading, I imagine that most newbies make one visit and never
    come back again.

    It's a shame. There is a tremendous amount of information to be had from
    people here when they do stay on topic.

    Support is important, the people who make it sound like weight control is
    easy are almost always people who have not yet experienced metabolic
    problems and who erroneously believe that the ease they've experienced in
    controlling their weight means that people who can't achieve their results
    are lazy gluttons.

    I was young once and had a relatively healthy metabolism that made weight
    control relatively easy. I used to think that people who "let themselves go"
    were lazy gluttons too. Now I have a metabolic condition that makes it
    insanely hard to control weight and I am a lot more humble. I no longer
    assume that other people are weak imbeciles when they have problems with
    something that I find easy.

    I suppose from that perspective, since my mental health is still pretty
    good, I should be able to work up some empathy for the kind of person whose
    mental imbalances make it necessary for them to strike out at strangers, day
    after day, with no concern about the impact of that kind of behavior, in a
    manner that shows a seriously troubling pattern of obsessive repetition and
    lack of any signs of intellectual activity.

    But mostly I just killfile them and ignore any thread where people,
    illadvisedly, respond.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
    strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lately I have been having some bad days. Drinking beer is the worst thing
    for me and it changes my whole outlook. Anyway, I like to come here for
    support...this being a support group. I find that I don't want to ask for
    help here anymore because if you do JC sniffs out a person that is feeling
    down and tries to put him/her down further. I guess he does this to prop
    himself up?

    Anyway, I have not been doing all that great, but hope to turn the corner
    tomorrow. I have not gained that much, but if I continue I will be going
    back to an old weight.

    Thanks for listening,
    Curt

  19. Thanks. Curt might have missed that post if you hadn't responded.

    ;-)

    --
    If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
    head. -- MFW

    "RoundingMiddleAge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    LOL
    Did that dog die yet?

    To All the nice people in alt.support.diet.low-carb who are just here to


    try

    Quoted message said:

    and help one another with their eating lifestyle:

    Obviously JC has issues. Note post here as example. Looks like his buttons
    get pushed when he senses vulnerability or injury in someone else.

    In reality that doesn't mean JC has to have access to those buttons.

    Its up to you to get your own buttons out of range. Short of that if your
    button(s) do get pushed then its up to you to let it slide gently into the
    mud.

    Besides ... this NG is supposed to be about low-carbers not carpers, isn't
    it? Just ignore the OT remarks and mush on. Er ... maybe I should say
    "bacon on" since mush, I'm quite sure, is not low-carb.

  20. Opinicus said:

    Beer, especially in summer, is one of my two nightmares on LC. (The other is
    chocolate at any time of the year.) Beer is especially bad for me because it
    triggers all the other "carb-addictions": pizza, Doritos, etc etc

    Quoted message said:

    "Just say 'no'."

    Well, on the summer thing ... I do like a frozen Margarita on the deck with
    hubby in the evenings to review our gardening and garden railway labors. And
    I do mean labors.

    I thought frozen Margaritas would be out forever because the ready-mizes are
    all suger. But now I think I have a reasonably low-carb Margarita recipe
    depending in how you work with it, i.e. adjusting the offending sweetened
    lime juice down or replace altogether and depending what Atkins level you
    are on:

    Makes two (2) very large (and stout) frozen Margaritas -
    6 oz. white Tequila 0 carbs
    6 oz. low sodium Club Soda 0 carbs
    1/2 teasp. Diet lemon lime powder 0 carbs
    2 oz. Roses (or off brand)
    sweetened Lime Juice 24 net carbs
    1 fresh lime juice & pulp,
    reserve 1 slice for
    garnish halves 1.3 net carbs

    Blender all with ice till correct (i.e. Frozen) consistency.

    TOTAL = 25.3 net carbs for 2 large drinks
    = 12.65 net carbs for 1 large

    To reduce the total carbs considerably reduce the Roses Lime Juice in half
    or replace with unsweetened lime juice from fresh limes and artificial
    sweetener to taste. Remember to count the carbs in fresh limes if replacing
    the sweetened lime juice concentrate with fresh.

    The low-cal-no-carb lemon-lime drink powder carries most of the sweet-[censored]
    taste anyway so cut cut cut away to your individual LC needs!

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