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  1. Hi there,

    I am reaching the stage in my basic unicycling career that I want to
    start learning how to idle on my unicycle.

    I am following Charlie Dancey's method for idling, where you pedal
    forward like normal, take just one pedal back, and then carry on again
    forwards.

    My problem is that, for me at least, that backward pedal seems rather
    daunting! I don't like the prospect of falling backwards and hurting
    myself. Is this a common feeling for a lot of newbies? Do you overcome
    it after a few tries?

    I am not after the usual help and advice with idling (that may come
    later), but I am just wanting to know a few opinions for those who can
    (or hav at least tried) to idle using this method.

    Thanks, in advance, for all help, advice and information that is
    shared!

    Many thanks

    Mark Watson

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  2. that's how i learnt to ride backwards, but not to idle, it does seem a
    bit over the top, id; just mount holdng on to a wall and start idling,
    then stop leaning on the wall and see how long you can hold it for.

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  3. Even if you don't know how to do it, it's not scary at all. You're
    stopped, and if you feel youself starting to fall off, you just step
    down without even thinking, and all is well 🙂

    I never really tried to learn how to idle... it just kind of happened
    randomly one day that I was able to pedal backwards, forwards, then
    backwards, then forwards, then fall off, and I said, hey, this is kind
    of like idling!!

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  4. dont be a woman about it, just do it, learn to ride backwards and then
    youll be fine

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  5. Hi there,

    Thanks for the help guys!

    Thats all I needed, but by all means leave some more opinions if you
    wish!

    Many thanks

    Mark Watson

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  6. Every new skill is a challenge. Idling is awkward at first but every
    time you try it, it gets a bit easier until eventually you think it is
    very easy.

    Remember how hard was learning to ride? Keep practicing, idling will
    get easier.

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  7. I learned to ride backwards before idling, and it wasn't scary learning
    to go backwards.

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    the plane on the earth surface. he was the one who killed the
    dinosaurs. -ivan
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  8. Sometimes when I learn new things, I get people to yell at me and
    ridicule me, helps me learn faster...

    Just find something that helps you learn quicker.

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  9. There are many women with excellent unicycling skills. Your comment
    implies otherwise, and many would find it offensive.

    I recommend keeping blatently sexist comments off of public forums.

    Spoonthumb said:

    dont be a woman about it, just do it, learn to ride backwards and then
    youll be fine

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  10. markwatson said:

    I am reaching the stage in my basic unicycling career that I want to
    start learning how to idle on my unicycle.

    I am following Charlie Dancey's method for idling, where you pedal
    forward like normal, take just one pedal back, and then carry on again
    forwards.

    My problem is that, for me at least, that backward pedal seems rather
    daunting!

    That's how I learnt. I don't remember it being scary (mind you, it
    /was/ 13 years ago and time may have dimmed the memory). I /do/
    remember that I tended to practice within grabbing distance of some
    park railings. If you have some handy railings that you can ride near
    then you may find that they boost your confidence. Just make sure the
    tops are higher than head height, so that there's no risk of impaling
    yourself if you fall on them!

    --
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  11. If the backward motion is scary, you might not be letting the lower
    crank roll forward enough, like not leaning back far enough on the
    forward stroke, limiting the amount of torque you can put into the
    pedal to roll backwards again.

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  12. I was pretty freaked out when I first tried it. But if you just go for
    it you will probable get the pedal back. Then it is like straight into
    backwards ridin.
    WAY FUN!!!! just go for it and have fun.

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  13. With my right foot down (lower). There is only 2 ways to idle, I learned
    left foot down first, on a 19 ". I bet a skinny tired 20 " is easier or
    the same. Then it gets harder as the wheels get bigger. The 24 isn't so
    bad, but I have never gone reverse on the 36. Maybe I should buy a 29
    LOL 🙂

    I learned to idle watching movies. Wasn't scary at all, but then I hate
    horror or gore, so I was laughing or crying instead.🙂

    Consider learning on a small wheel while watching movies. Have a hand
    hold nearby, so you don't have to remount every time you lose balance.
    Just go for it. Try to keep your balance, while making up bs with the
    lower foot on the pedal. Make it up as you go along. Can be a bit dull
    and slow. So watching movies is the hot set up IMHO. It has taken many
    more hours to get the basic idling feel, then it did to learn basic
    straight riding, for me. I think I started to idle a few months ago,
    watch a movie a day, and I get tired or lose my balance after a minute
    or so. So it is much harder then riding forward, many times harder for
    me, don't give up. It just gets better slowly.

    I can ride 100 feet reverse before I start to get scared. I need to get
    better at doing the 180 look back. I think I might wear a helmet before
    I try this on the 36. It really is all just instinct to tighten up at a
    certain point. I am pretty sure as my balance improves and I get better
    at the snap back glance, riding backwards will seem normal.

    Anyway, riding backwards, and idling are related skills. If you can
    idle with either foot down, riding backwards will seem ok. It's the
    same as changing your lower idle foot.

    It is a weird tech though, more about time spent, then substance or
    comprehension, I can't think of a single good tip. Pirate movies !LOL,
    and put in your time on the seat, and it will work for you.🙂

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  14. Maybe try learning in a doorway. Just then you can hold either side and
    as you get better just use less pressure on the door frame. Very
    similar to learning to ride holding a wall or rail. That's how I would
    start off learning (If I was allowed inside).

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  15. I must say that it is probably better to learn how to ride backwards
    first. Learning to ride backwards is much harder than learning to
    unicycle forwards. You have probably never pedaled backwards before in
    your life. I know that I have never ridden a bike backwards before.
    Learning to ride backwards really increases your riding skill. I am
    mostly a MUni rider and once I learned how to ride backwards I improved
    my MUniing dramatically. Once you learn to ride backwards you will want
    to change directions. I found it much easier to change from forward to
    backward than from backward to forward. This changing of directions
    will lead you into idling. I was riding and doind a half revolutions
    backwards and then continuing to ride way before I could ride
    backwards. It never developed into idling. Learning how to ride
    backwards is a skill well worth learning.

    Unicorn

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  16. Quoted message said:

    I am following Charlie Dancey's method for idling, where you pedal
    forward like normal, take just one pedal back, and then carry on again
    forwards.

    I did not learn to idle using this method, tried but no luck.
    Since I have two uni's, I started with my 20" by holding onto a wall to
    mount and start the idle. Took me a while to learn, with lots of
    practice. After I could idle back and forth longer than 1 min I moved
    to practicing on my 29".
    This was harder due to larger wheel size and rocking motion was a
    differenet rythm.

    Now I am practicing the combination of freemount and idling.
    So far I can freemount 100% of the time and idle longer than a min on
    both unicycles.

    Moral of the story is practice, practice, practice.

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  17. I am still at the very beginning and althiugh I have read many tutorials
    I have the feeling that I do not get anywhere with idling.

    I guess I am missing an important part of the rocking motion. Everybody
    says that you should move the lower foot/pedal. Bit intuitively my
    upper foot tries to take control. I have the feeling that I can't
    control anything with the lower foot.

    Riding forward is no problem, and freemount (roll back method) works
    20%

    Tryiny to ride backwards is a real nightmare. It feels like I have to
    learn again from scratch.

    --
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  18. mscalisi said:

    There are many women with excellent unicycling skills. Your comment
    implies otherwise, and many would find it offensive.

    I recommend keeping blatently sexist comments off of public forums.

    give me a break dumbass you know what i meant, i know there are good
    women riders i was just saying dont be a "BABY." Is that better? It
    pisses me off that half the people on here just post replys just to
    argue. Does it make you feel good? Arguing on the internet?
    Obviously it does so it would be nice if you just posted your argument
    bullsh*t over in jc. As for being sexist, yeah i guess i am i dont see
    any decent female street riders, yes a few good female trials riders
    but thats different.

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    I learned everything I know from youtube.

    \"it won't hurt if you land it\" -kevin mcmullin
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    4th place*)--540 unispin-'o,*
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  19. I am not a moderator but still I would recommend to stop this
    immediately.

    I do not have a problem with spoonthumbs original post, but there will
    always be others who carefully search for comments that can make them
    feel offended. It's a question of attitude.

    So, if you use expressions which could potentially offend others, just
    live with the fact that you may get negative feedback. But don't feel
    offended by the feedback. Just ignore it and stay calm.

    I recommend that there should be no more post about this. If you really
    feel you need to comment, open a separate thread unter 'just
    conversation'

    My 2 €-cents.

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  20. legtod2 said:

    I did not learn to idle using this method, tried but no luck.
    Since I have two uni's, I started with my 20" by holding onto a wall to
    mount and start the idle.

    Idling is next on my list of skills to learn. I have a 24" and a 29",
    but am thinking it would be easier to learn on a 20". Is it worth
    getting a 20" if I have a 24" and 29"?

    Are there any other skills that are better learned/enjoyed on a smaller
    wheel?

    thanks,
    tom

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