Is Ibuprofen Safe?

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Bill said:

I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids? Have you had
problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed to death.

Bill

Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....

For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works reliably.
I even like it better than codiene.

Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
And it's just as hard on the stomach.

Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
They don't work at ALL for me.
I've co-workers that agree with me.

Cheers!
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill said:

I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids? Have you
had
problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed to
death.

Bill

Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....

For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works reliably.
I even like it better than codiene.

Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
And it's just as hard on the stomach.

Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
They don't work at ALL for me.
I've co-workers that agree with me

So how many do you take at a time? Do you take it to help you workout pain
free?

Bill

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Bill said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill said:

I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids? Have you
had
problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed to
death.

Bill

Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....

For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works reliably.
I even like it better than codiene.

Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
And it's just as hard on the stomach.

Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
They don't work at ALL for me.
I've co-workers that agree with me

So how many do you take at a time? Do you take it to help you workout pain
free?

Bill

No. ;-)
To me, taking it for weight lifting would be abuse.
DOMS are not something that bother me...

I only take it for severe pain, annoying headaches or when I am ill. It
works great as a cough suppressant as it soothes an irritated throat.

As for dosage, the maximum dosage is 800 mg. (4 of the over the counter
generic ones). It depends on how I feel. If I really feel bad enough to
use it, I confess to taking the maximum dose, but ALWAYS with food!

I don't actually use it often. Last week when I had that nasty little
head cold, I went thru quite a bit of it but I don't use it on anywhere
near a "routine" basis.

If the arthritis in my knees bothers me, vibrator massage helps that a
lot, as do high doses of Evening Primrose Oil. EPO is a natural and safe
anti-inflammatory. You may consider that for chronic pain. It takes a
bit of time, but it does work. Load with 3 grams per day (3,000 mg.) for
3 days then switch to 1,000 mg. twice per day for a couple of weeks.
When you start feeling better, cut it to 1,000 mg. per day maintenance
dose.

Why do you feel you need to take it for working out? It does not hurt
THAT bad (no pain no gain and all that <G>😉 and I understand that the
abuse of NSAIDS can slow progress on hypertrophy. I've read that
numerous times.

I've found that the endorphin "rush" I get at the gym right after a
heavy lift (especially deadlifts) more than takes care of any residual
pain while I'm there.

It's hours later when the DOMS hit that I really feel it.
Then I do some deep breathing and stretching out to relieve the
stiffness.

Take a nice hot soaking bath with some epson salts if you are really
uncomfortable.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Bill said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
> attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids?
> Have you had
> problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed
> to death.
>
> Bill
>
>

Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....

For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works
reliably. I even like it better than codiene.

Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
And it's just as hard on the stomach.

Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
They don't work at ALL for me.
I've co-workers that agree with me

So how many do you take at a time? Do you take it to help you
workout pain free?

Bill

No. ;-)
To me, taking it for weight lifting would be abuse.
DOMS are not something that bother me...

I only take it for severe pain, annoying headaches or when I am ill.
It works great as a cough suppressant as it soothes an irritated
throat.

As for dosage, the maximum dosage is 800 mg. (4 of the over the
counter generic ones). It depends on how I feel. If I really feel bad
enough to use it, I confess to taking the maximum dose, but ALWAYS
with food!

I don't actually use it often. Last week when I had that nasty little
head cold, I went thru quite a bit of it but I don't use it on
anywhere near a "routine" basis.

That's when you can (n=1 anecdote follows) have problems. Use it to cope
with, say, a stress fractured rib, for 4 weeks, and you can find you get
sensitised and throw up after eating one. Still fine to apply on a problem
area as a gel, though.

Quoted message said:

If the arthritis in my knees bothers me, vibrator massage helps that a
lot, as do high doses of Evening Primrose Oil. EPO is a natural and
safe anti-inflammatory.

Not a good choice of acronym...

Peter

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
>> attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids?
>> Have you had
>> problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed
>> to death.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
> Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....
>
> For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works
> reliably. I even like it better than codiene.
>
> Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
> And it's just as hard on the stomach.
>
> Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
> They don't work at ALL for me.
> I've co-workers that agree with me

So how many do you take at a time? Do you take it to help you
workout pain free?

Bill

No. ;-)
To me, taking it for weight lifting would be abuse.
DOMS are not something that bother me...

I only take it for severe pain, annoying headaches or when I am ill.
It works great as a cough suppressant as it soothes an irritated
throat.

As for dosage, the maximum dosage is 800 mg. (4 of the over the
counter generic ones). It depends on how I feel. If I really feel bad
enough to use it, I confess to taking the maximum dose, but ALWAYS
with food!

I don't actually use it often. Last week when I had that nasty little
head cold, I went thru quite a bit of it but I don't use it on
anywhere near a "routine" basis.

That's when you can (n=1 anecdote follows) have problems. Use it to cope
with, say, a stress fractured rib, for 4 weeks, and you can find you get
sensitised and throw up after eating one. Still fine to apply on a problem
area as a gel, though.

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If the arthritis in my knees bothers me, vibrator massage helps that a
lot, as do high doses of Evening Primrose Oil. EPO is a natural and
safe anti-inflammatory.

Not a good choice of acronym...

Heh, true.
That also stands for Erythropoietin I believe?

Quoted message said:

Peter

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Om.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>
>>In article <[email hidden]>,
>>"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
>>>attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids?
>>>Have you had
>>>problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed
>>>to death.
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Take it with food and don't abuse it, and you most likely won't.....
>>
>>For me, Ibuprofen is the ONLY pain killer that really works
>>reliably. I even like it better than codiene.
>>
>>Aspirin works ok too, but it makes my ears ring rather badly.
>>And it's just as hard on the stomach.
>>
>>Tylenol and Alieve are [censored].
>>They don't work at ALL for me.
>>I've co-workers that agree with me
>
>So how many do you take at a time? Do you take it to help you
>workout pain free?
>
>Bill
>
>

No. ;-)
To me, taking it for weight lifting would be abuse.
DOMS are not something that bother me...

I only take it for severe pain, annoying headaches or when I am ill.
It works great as a cough suppressant as it soothes an irritated
throat.

As for dosage, the maximum dosage is 800 mg. (4 of the over the
counter generic ones). It depends on how I feel. If I really feel bad
enough to use it, I confess to taking the maximum dose, but ALWAYS
with food!

I don't actually use it often. Last week when I had that nasty little
head cold, I went thru quite a bit of it but I don't use it on
anywhere near a "routine" basis.

That's when you can (n=1 anecdote follows) have problems. Use it to cope
with, say, a stress fractured rib, for 4 weeks, and you can find you get
sensitised and throw up after eating one. Still fine to apply on a problem
area as a gel, though.

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If the arthritis in my knees bothers me, vibrator massage helps that a
lot, as do high doses of Evening Primrose Oil. EPO is a natural and
safe anti-inflammatory.

Not a good choice of acronym...

Heh, true.
That also stands for Erythropoietin I believe?

yep

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Quoted message said:

Why do you feel you need to take it for working out? It does not hurt
THAT bad (no pain no gain and all that <G>😉 and I understand that the
abuse of NSAIDS can slow progress on hypertrophy. I've read that
numerous times.

I don't take it for working out. I just wondered if anyone does. I take it
sparingly. I've had a lot of joint pains, even since I was a child. Some
days I have had severe joint pain, shoulders, wrist, knees... But it always
goes away within a day or two.

Quoted message said:

I've found that the endorphin "rush" I get at the gym right after a
heavy lift (especially deadlifts) more than takes care of any residual
pain while I'm there.

I got that out of my system a long time ago. The heavy, dangerous stuff,
that is.

Quoted message said:

It's hours later when the DOMS hit that I really feel it.
Then I do some deep breathing and stretching out to relieve the
stiffness.

I do LOTS of streching and it certainly helps.

Quoted message said:

Take a nice hot soaking bath with some epson salts if you are really
uncomfortable.

I make lots of use of my heating pad.

Bill

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill said:

Quoted message said:

Why do you feel you need to take it for working out? It does not hurt
THAT bad (no pain no gain and all that <G>😉 and I understand that the
abuse of NSAIDS can slow progress on hypertrophy. I've read that
numerous times.

I don't take it for working out. I just wondered if anyone does. I take it
sparingly. I've had a lot of joint pains, even since I was a child. Some
days I have had severe joint pain, shoulders, wrist, knees... But it always
goes away within a day or two.

Bummer.
Any idea of the cause?

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Quoted message said:

I've found that the endorphin "rush" I get at the gym right after a
heavy lift (especially deadlifts) more than takes care of any residual
pain while I'm there.

I got that out of my system a long time ago. The heavy, dangerous stuff,
that is.

But, but, that's what makes weightlifting FUN!
Just kidding. I've been pushing myself the last 3 weeks just trying to
see where I am really at now that I've been back at it for a decent time
period. I need to see what I can do, then go from there.

My DL is only 160 lbs. for pity sake! That's wimp weight. :-P
But, that is for reps. I've no idea what my 1RM is.
I'm trying to build it 5 lbs. per week. I'm working back up after a 10
year layoff.

I'm not even telling what my bench press is...

I'm 43.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's hours later when the DOMS hit that I really feel it.
Then I do some deep breathing and stretching out to relieve the
stiffness.

I do LOTS of streching and it certainly helps.

Quoted message said:

Take a nice hot soaking bath with some epson salts if you are really
uncomfortable.

I make lots of use of my heating pad.

Sounds good.
Just don't do what some idiots do and mess with Nubain.

There are also bathtub jacuzzi's available at Wal-mart for about $35.00.

I'm just a bit leery of NSAIDS. If I do take Ibuprofen for a few days,
it does start to bother my stomach. Bleeding ulcers can be rather
unforgiving if they hit the right spot. Not fun.

So in answer to your question, if it can be dangerous, I'd say "It
Depends". ($1.00 to Cohen)

But this is just my personal opinion and experience. I'm sure others
have some input. :-)

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Bill

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Quoted message said:

I don't take it for working out. I just wondered if anyone does. I take
it
sparingly. I've had a lot of joint pains, even since I was a child. Some
days I have had severe joint pain, shoulders, wrist, knees... But it
always
goes away within a day or two.

Bummer.
Any idea of the cause?

He's a [censored]? Just a thought...

TBR

Nah, you're just an internet coward.

Bill

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and
the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying it, so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Peter

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:46:23 GMT, "Bill" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids? Have you had
problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed to death.

Bill

Who the hell are these people? Do they take two advil and drop dead?

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Quoted message said:

Bill said:

I have recently read that approximately 20,000 deaths each year are
attributed to Nsaids such as Ibuprofen. Do you use any Nsaids? Have you
had
problems. Ibuprofen works so well for me but I don't want to bleed to
death.

Quoted message said:

Who the hell are these people? Do they take two advil and drop dead?

Sixty eight year old wino with esophogeal varicies from liver cirrhosis
takes 3200mg ibuprofen a day. Wino dies from massive GI bleed. Death by
NSAIDS?

Tweny two year old gym rat develops septic shock from injecting Sustenon
with a dirty needle and dies. Death by steroids?

Nineteen year old gangbanger robs an old lady at gunpoint. Police respond,
and engage the robber in a gun fight. Robber dies. Another child victim of
handgun violence?

Lies, damned lies, and statistics, doncha' know?

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying it, so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Peter

Thanks!
I'll look for that.
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things
are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying it,
so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry
on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like
tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Quoted message said:

Thanks!
I'll look for that.

<spam/shill> www.lef.org sells it. </>

David

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> Ibuprofen Gel?
> I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things
are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying
it, so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry
on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like
tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Quoted message said:

Thanks!
I'll look for that.

<spam/shill> www.lef.org sells it. </>

David, you are SUCH a putz! LEF used to sell it, but doesn't appear to do so
anymore.

A google search for topical ibuprofen comes up with a few sources, though.

David

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David Cohen said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> Ibuprofen Gel?
> I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things
are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying it,
so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry
on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like
tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Quoted message said:

Thanks!
I'll look for that.

<spam/shill> www.lef.org sells it. </>

David

Muchas Gracias.
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Allen said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Ibuprofen Gel?
I'm not familiar with that?

Well, it is sold fairly commonly here in the UK, go looking. Only things
are
you probably don't really want to get it all over your hands applying it,
so
wear a glove, and some of the cheaper gels take hours (literally) to dry
on
your skin, which is a pain.

Seems to work, and doesn't go through your stomach so can't irritate it.
Probably useless for headaches or similar - good for stuff like
tendonitis
where the problem area is just under the skin.

Peter

I use Aspercreme sometimes. It works pretty good. I've even used it for
headaches. It's kind of sticky but you can wash it off after it does its
work.

Bill

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Quoted message said:

Thanks!
I'll look for that.
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:26:27 GMT, "Bill" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I use Aspercreme sometimes. It works pretty good. I've even used it for
headaches. It's kind of sticky but you can wash it off after it does its
work.

Please keep your masturbation habits to yourself.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:26:27 GMT, "Bill" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I use Aspercreme sometimes. It works pretty good. I've even used it for
headaches. It's kind of sticky but you can wash it off after it does its
work.

Please keep your masturbation habits to yourself.

TBR

So, have you been a coward all your life?

Bill

Quoted message said:

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and
the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."