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  1. From Chemical & Engineering News August 16, 2004
    Volume 82, Number 33
    pp. 35-36

    IS FLUORIDE REALLY ALL THAT SAFE?

    The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson, Seven Stories Press,
    2004, 374 pages, $24.95 (ISBN 1-58322-526-9)

    REVIEWED BY SHELDON KRIMSKY

    "The Fluoride Deception" reads like a whodunit. There are
    conspiracies, cover-ups, human casualties, and broken careers. The
    prime suspects in this toxic thriller are compounds of fluoride; the
    coconspirators represent industry, the military, and the public health
    community. At the book's ending, the suspect chemicals are not proven
    guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but we are left with compelling
    evidence that powerful interests with high financial stakes have
    colluded to prematurely close honest discussion and investigation into
    fluoride toxicity.

    Christopher Bryson has woven together an impressive body of evidence
    that brings into question the near universally held view in the
    medical and public health communities that fluoridation of public
    water supplies at current levels (about 1 ppm) is unambiguously safe
    and does not involve any serious health or environmental trade-offs.
    Bryson conducted extensive interviews, read many scientific papers,
    and burrowed through archival sources (there are more than 100 pages
    of reference notes) to make his argument that fluoride toxicity, even
    at the levels found in public water supplies, is not a closed case.
    Some private interests, he alleges, will seek to destroy careers to
    ensure that scientific studies that raise doubts about the safety of
    fluoride never get funded--or if they do, never get published.
    Few people of prominence will stand up and contest the issue of the
    safety of fluoride compounds, Bryson claims. One exception is Arvid
    Carlsson, a Swedish pharmacologist who shared the 2000 Nobel Prize in
    Physiology or Medicine. In a postscript to the book, Carlsson writes:
    "Fluoride is a pharmacologically very active compound with an action
    on a variety of enzymes and tissues in the body already in low
    concentrations. In concentrations not far above those recommended it
    has overt toxic actions." Carlsson was one of the scientists who
    helped persuade the Swedish Parliament to ban fluoridation of drinking
    water in that country.

    The book summarizes 50 years of fluoride uses in steel, aluminum,
    phosphate, gasoline, uranium enrichment, refrigerants, and plastics.
    Bryson shows how fluoride became the "lifeblood of the modern
    industrial economy." Notwithstanding fluoride's broad industrial
    applications, its airborne emissions, and its toxic by-products, the
    public's awareness of fluoride comes primarily from its uses in
    drinking water, toothpaste, and preadolescent fluoride treatments as a
    prophylaxis against dental cavities.

    There are many resemblances between the history of fluoride regulation
    and that of other toxic substances. The exigencies of World War II
    blinded public health regulators to medical reports of occupational
    hazards from fluoride exposure in those industries where compounds of
    fluoride were used or produced. The U.S government did not take kindly
    to lawsuits filed by farmers for gaseous fluoride damage to their
    families, their cattle, and their crops, an unintended by-product of
    nuclear weapons facilities during the Manhattan Project. Postwar
    economic growth served as a convenient excuse to ignore evidence that
    communities were exposed to unhealthy levels of airborne fluoride
    emissions.

    But what is distinguishable about fluoride politics is the connection
    between this ion and the prevention of dental cavities. Bryson shows
    us how fluoride's dental applications were skillfully used by
    corporate stakeholders in their campaign to derail more stringent air
    and occupational standards for industrial fluoride emissions.
    Similarly, defense lawyers exploited the positive side of fluoride to
    protect companies from worker-injury suits.

    AS THE SAYING GOES in the public health community, adopting an
    antifluoridation position is a career breaker. This is illustrated in
    the book by the case of Phyllis Mullenix, a neurotoxicologist hired by
    the Forsyth Dental Center in Boston to investigate materials used in
    dentistry. Mullenix found evidence of fluoride neurotoxicity in
    experimental rats. Mullenix showed that with chronic exposure, the
    fluoride ion could cross the blood-brain barrier. Moreover, when
    fluoridated water was fed to pregnant rats, she found the offspring
    exhibited behavior resembling hyperactivity.

    PHOTODISC

    Mullenix recalls the response of a Forsyth administrator to her
    findings: "You are going against what the dentists and everybody have
    been publishing for 50 years, that this [fluoride] is safe and
    effective. You must be wrong. ... You are jeopardizing the entire
    support of this entire institution. If you publish these studies, NIDR
    [the National Institute of Dental Research] is not going to fund any
    more research at Forsyth." Her studies were published in
    Neurotoxicology & Teratology. But within days after the paper's
    acceptance, her contract with Forsyth was not renewed.
    Bryson's investigations into fluoride science led him to a 1962
    unpublished study conducted at Kettering Laboratory at the University
    of Cincinnati, which he found in the basement archive of the
    laboratory. An industry group contributed nearly half-a-million
    dollars for a series of toxicological studies that they believed would
    help them against worker claims of crippling skeletal
    fluorosis--thickening and fusing of spinal vertebrae.

    In one of the key experiments, 42 beagle dogs were exposed to calcium
    fluoride dust for six hours a day, five days a week--simulating human
    occupational exposure. According to the results of the study, calcium
    fluoride damaged the lungs and lymph nodes of the dogs. If released,
    the study could have provided the critical evidence needed to raise
    the industrial standard on fluoride emission limitations.

    "The Kettering data pointed an arrow directly at the heart of key
    modern industrial enterprises, where the extraordinary incidence of
    emphysema in workers potentially 'dwarfed' even the silicosis crisis
    of the 1930s," Bryston writes. He quotes one toxicologist who was
    given the long-suppressed study data, who said, "The fact that the
    Kettering data were not published or made available is a crime against
    American workers--with profound health consequences for the rest of
    the nation."

    The positive spin of this unpublished report was that the university
    researchers did not manipulate the science to give the sponsors what
    they wanted to hear. Scientists refused to fudge the data or give the
    study a proindustry interpretation. However, there is also a negative
    spin. The academic investigator at the University of Cincinnati either
    chose not to or lacked the contractual rights to publish the results.
    According to Mullenix, "The Kettering Laboratory's long-ago
    suppression of the dog study helped to perpetuate a cover-up of
    fluoride's potential for harm as an air pollutant."

    Even today there are no legal constraints against the suppression of
    scientific data from privately funded studies. Recently, New York
    State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer filed suit against a major
    pharmaceutical company, charging that it had suppressed clinical trial
    data that was valuable to the medical community on a drug used to
    treat adolescent depression. A small group of prominent journals have
    adopted a policy that they will not publish studies unless the authors
    affirm their control over the data and publication. Some members of
    the medical community are calling for a public database on clinical
    trials, so that data unfavorable to a sponsor will not be suppressed.

    <snipped some>

    "The Fluoride Deception" will leave any open-minded readers feeling
    uneasy about the acceptable levels of fluoride in drinking water, as
    well as the cumulative sources from dental hygiene products. But the
    deeper lessons of this story, going back to classified military
    research during World War II, are the book's insights into the threats
    to open inquiry in public health and environmental science. Premature
    closure of debate in science undercuts one of its unique features--a
    feature that distinguishes it from other forms of fixing
    belief--namely, science's self-correcting function. Without a
    scientific culture that supports reexamination of "no risk" results,
    however strongly held, we may find our public health and environmental
    policies resting on weak or faulty foundations, which can prolong our
    blindness to preventable illnesses.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sheldon Krimsky is a professor of urban and environmental policy and
    planning at Tufts University. He does science policy research and is
    the author of "Science in the Private Interest."

    http://pubs.acs.org/cen/books/8233/8233books.html

  2. "nyscof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    From Chemical & Engineering News August 16, 2004
    Volume 82, Number 33
    pp. 35-36

    IS FLUORIDE REALLY ALL THAT SAFE?

    The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson, Seven Stories Press,
    2004, 374 pages, $24.95 (ISBN 1-58322-526-9)

    REVIEWED BY SHELDON KRIMSKY

    Nice book review. Proves nothing.

  3. nyscof wrote:

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    Quoted message said:

    AS THE SAYING GOES in the public health community, adopting an
    antifluoridation position is a career breaker.

    Apparently not for you, Counselor!

    Best,
    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  4. QUESTION: Are Paul Connett, PhD and Roger Masters, PhD INTENTIONALLY
    ignoring the fact that fluoridation is obviously illegal even if fluoride is
    good for teeth?

    PROF. SHELDON KRIMSKY: See "Roger and me" reproduced below...

    PROF. KRIMSKY'S REVIEW - "Is Fluoride Really All That Safe?" - was published
    in Chemical & Engineering News August 16, 2004 Volume 82, Number 33 pp.
    35-36.
    http://pubs.acs.org/cen/books/8233/8233books.html

    Prof. Krimsky reviewed The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson, Seven
    Stories Press, 2004, 374 pages, $24.95 (ISBN 1-58322-526-9).

    Mark Probert wrote: "Nice book review. Proves nothing."

    Prof. Sheldon Krimsky's "nice book review" proves that one more academic is
    looking at fluoride toxicity.

    Prof. Krimsky's "nice book review" also proves that one more academic is
    missing - or not being informed of - the point that involuntary fluoride ion
    chemotherapy ("fluoridation"😉 is obviously illegal even if fluoride is good
    for teeth.

    I write to publicly inform Prof. Krimsky of this point.

    I also write to publicly inform the American Chemical Society of this point.

    See Roger and me, reproduced below.

    Dr. Gastaldo
    [email hidden]

    Copied to: American Chemical Society via [email hidden]

    Copied to:
    Sheldon Krimsky
    Professor
    Department of Urban and Environmental Policy & Planning
    Tufts University
    Medford, MA 02155
    Telephone: 617-627-3394
    Fax: 617-627-3377
    Email: [email hidden]

    Sheldon:

    QUESTION: Are Paul Connett, PhD and Roger Masters, PhD INTENTIONALLY
    ignoring the fact that fluoridation is obviously illegal even if fluoride is
    good for teeth?

    Paul wrote of your review in his FAN CAMPAIGN BULLETIN #116:

    "It would be difficult to overstate the importance of this review. First, it
    is very well written and hits the salient points head on..."

    Paul never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity to mention the
    salient point that involuntary fluoride ion chemotherapy ("fluoridation"😉 is
    obviously ILLEGAL even if it is good for teeth. See the THOR decision
    quoted below.

    Paul publicly moaned in his FAN CAMPAIGN BULLETIN #114 about what is going
    on in the State of "Fluorida" - but failed to mention Florida's bizarre
    QUILES decision - also quoted below...

    Paul whined about California "zealots" putting "poison" in California water
    in his FAN CAMPAIGN BULLETIN #114:

    "18 million people are going to be drinking fluoridated water at the crack
    of a bureaucratic whip and this seems to be happening without a whimper,
    even while the LA Times runs articles exposing the sickening collusion
    between the NIH and the pharmaceutical industry. Why can't they investigate
    the equally sickening collusion taking place closer to home?

    "Historians will be flabbergasted how they pulled it off. How a handful of
    zealots could poison the water of so many. How they could promote
    fluoridation without even reading the literature on the dangers. How they
    literally lie through their teeth! How they could persuade local officials
    that they should overrule the individual's precious right to decline
    medicine. How they could appear so "authorative" even while being so totally
    incapable of defending the practice on a public platform or even provide
    written answers to pertinent questions."

    Historians will be flabbergasted to learn that Paul could not bring himself
    to mention the California Supreme Court's THOR decision as he publicly
    whined about "zealots" putting "poison" in California water.

    Todd

    From: Todd Gastaldo ([email hidden])
    Subject: Roger and me...(also: Question about FAN's Paul Connett, PhD)

    View this article only
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.pregnancy, sci.med
    Date: 2004-08-22 08:31:37 PST

    ROGER AND ME...

    Roger D. Masters, PhD ([email hidden]) wrote to me:

    "Give me a break. Silicofluoride is SO MUCH WORSE than sodium fluoride that
    it is about time you focused on the REAL problem."

    Roger,

    It is a BATTERY to medicate without consent [THOR; see below] - regardless
    whether the
    battery is committed with good medicine or bad.

    I think the real problem is two-fold:

    1) municipalities are in clear violation of common law which prohibits
    medication without consent; and

    2) key crime fighters (as well as people ostensibly doing everything
    possible to fight mass involuntary fluoride ion chemotherapy/"fluoridation"😉
    are failing to the MINIMUM required by law. (See the postscript.)

    THOR is California common law; so I'll AGAIN cc key crime fighter Disneyland
    DA Tony Rackauckas, district attorney in the County of Orange, California
    via [email hidden].

    I'll also cc Oregon Attorney General Hardy Meyers and Pinellas County
    (Florida) Sheriff Everett Rice.

    NOTE: Just because a DA/AG or sheriff does nothing does NOT mean a crime
    isn't being committed.

    Again, it is a BATTERY to medicate without consent [THOR] - regardless
    whether the battery is committed with good medicine or bad.

    KEY QUESTION

    Why is Fluoride Action Network's/FAN's Paul Connett, PhD pretending that I
    think THOR means it's illegal for a parent to CONSENT to fluoride for a
    child?

    Paul came up with this pretense after I told him that THOR means it's
    illegal to treat parent or child WITHOUT consent!

    Maybe Paul wasn't pretending? I haven't heard back from Paul on this point.
    If Paul *was* pretending, things are worse than we know...

    Roger, municipalities are treating a LOT of people without consent.

    Yet in a previous email, you indicated that this point is "weak" - "beside
    the central point"...

    You wrote:

    "Because I consider the grounds of [Quiles'] suit were weak (the issue is
    not individual 'rights' but the obligation of both governmental agencies and
    scientists to act in a manner consistent with the public good), all of your
    discussion is beside the central point: how can we get governmental
    agencies, judges, and the media to focus on the scientific issue (which
    dentists and the AMA not to mention the CDC and EPA have generally avoided
    or twisted in bizarre ways)."

    Roger,

    I realize that you and Paul are mucky-muck university professors and I am
    just some schmoe trying to make sense of it all....

    BUT...

    Why is Paul misconstruing THOR?

    Why did you put "rights" in quotes?

    In reply to Quiles claim that his rights were being trampled, Florida's 4th
    District Court of Appeals said in effect: "We're fluoridating FAUCETS - not
    people."

    How lame! At the very least, Floridians who protests fluoridation as mass
    involuntary medication should be informed (by Connett via his FAN Bulletin)
    that Quiles says fluoridation is "not a medical procedure"...

    Wrote the Quiles court:

    "The introduction of fluoride into the city's water is not a 'medical
    procedure'...[T]he city...is not seeking to introduce the mineral directly
    into
    Quiles's bloodstream...[T]he city's fluoridation...stops with Quiles's water
    faucet. The city is NOT compelling him to drink it....[The city IS though
    compelling Quiles to - TG^^^] filter it, boil it, distill it, mix it with
    purifying spirits, or purchase
    bottled drinking water."

    QUILES v. THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
    CASE NO. 4D01-71 Opinion filed November 21, 2001 (emphases added)
    http://www.4dca.org/Nov2001/11-21-01/4D01-71.pdf

    ^^^NOTE: The Court wrote "He is free to filter it" - but the city is
    obviously
    COMPELLING Quiles to PAY to filter his water (or boil it or distill it
    or...)

    The Court also wrote:

    "...[F]reedom to choose not to ingest fluoride remains intact."

    Nope. The City of Boynton Beach gave its residents the "free"dom to choose
    to
    PAY EXTRA to choose not to ingest fluoride - and the Florida appeals court
    went
    along with the gag and LIED: Cities and counties in Florida are not
    intending
    to put fluoride in bloodstreams^^^ - they are fluoridating FAUCETS - not
    people.

    ^^^Note: BLOODSTREAMS... CDC has changed its tune... CDC now indicates that
    fluoride acts TOPICALLY. While ingesting fluoride (to get it into the
    bloodstream) is said to "enhance" saliva to topically bathe teeth -
    bloodstream fluoride endangers children's enamel. Bloodstream bad - topical
    good - esp. good for poor children without dentists (goes the CDC gag) -
    which is why opponents like Dr. Hardy Limeback of Canada say if we must
    fluoridate teeth we should do it by giving out fluoridated toothpaste at
    food banks. If fluoride is in toothpaste, people can easily CHOOSE to use
    it - or reject it. It works best topically anyway. See The Fluoride
    Deception 2004:xx.

    Why this obvious pro-fluoridation judicial activism/fraud?

    Since fluoridation was brought to us by Fluorine Lawyers Committee ACT I -
    the cover-up of military-industrial fluoride toxic pollution.

    Since fluoridation was - in a sense - caused by production of the atomic
    bomb among other fluoride-pollution related products...

    Fluoridation might best be viewed a NATIONAL SECURITY issue (from the
    perspective of those who hurt people while building the atom bomb)...

    The Quiles court was just doing its "patriotic duty" - like all those
    fluoride workers who died or got injured by fluoride poisoning.

    See The Fluoride Deception by Christopher Bryson [NY: Seven Stories Press
    2004]

    Roger, if I were running Fluorine Lawyers Committee ACT 2 - ending the
    cover-up/fluoridation without anyone actually getting prosecuted for the
    obvious crimes - I would want people JUST LIKE FAN's Paul Connett, PhD
    pretending not to understand THOR.

    I would want people just like you ignoring THOR (and similar common law)
    insisting that the "central point" is that one form of involuntary
    medication is worse than another form of involuntary medication.

    If I were running Fluorine Lawyers Committee ACT 2, I would want
    Californians kept in the dark about THOR.

    I say again...

    Under THOR common law, even GOOD medicine is a battery if administered
    without consent.

    Wrote the THOR court:

    "The common law has long recognized this principle: A physician who
    performs any medical procedure without the patient's consent commits a
    battery irrespective of the skill or care used." [Daniel Thor v. The
    Superior Court of Solano County 93 C.D.O.S. 5658 at 5659]

    Physician Thor needed to place a gastrostomy tube to FEED the prisoner...

  5. M said:
    Quoted message said:

    REVIEWED BY SHELDON KRIMSKY

    Nice book review. Proves nothing.

    Which it doesn´t intend, either.
    A book review is something written to present/describe the contents of a
    book.
    No wonder that you cannot see any proof for anything - if you look at
    book reviews to find your proof.

    You wouldn´t see any proof even if presented to you on a silver platter.

    --
    -History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-:
    --- http://PMeiers.bei.t-online.de/index.htm ---
    ----------------------------------------------------

  6. "Peter Meiers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    M said:
    Quoted message said:

    REVIEWED BY SHELDON KRIMSKY

    Nice book review. Proves nothing.

    Which it doesn´t intend, either.
    A book review is something written to present/describe the contents of a
    book.
    No wonder that you cannot see any proof for anything - if you look at
    book reviews to find your proof.

    You wouldn´t see any proof even if presented to you on a silver platter.

    Don't whine to me about this. Tell the OP that his posting is [censored].

    I would gladly see proof if it were the result of several well designed,
    peer reviewed studies.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    -History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-:
    --- http://PMeiers.bei.t-online.de/index.htm ---
    ----------------------------------------------------

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