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  1. This may seem like a dumb question but why do people say
    fast food is bad for the body and exactly how is it bad for
    the body. Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the low
    fiber content?

    I have a hunch that the main reason fast food gets a lot of
    stick is because people eat too much of it, am I right?
    There seem to be alot of people who claim to be healthy
    eaters and yet snack on fast food for time to time. Isn't
    this the same thing as people who smoke on the odd occasion.

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people eat
    which makes it bad for you?

    If anyone has some input, please help me. Thanx

  2. Quoted message said:

    bad for the body and exactly how is it bad for the body.
    Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the low fiber
    content?

    High calories, kind of fat, kind of carbs, low fiber, low
    micronutrients.

    Quoted message said:

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people
    eat which makes it bad for you?

    Both.

    Mirek

  3. gareth said:

    This may seem like a dumb question but why do people say
    fast food is bad for the body and exactly how is it bad
    for the body. Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the
    low fiber content?

    There are many different types of fast food. Some provide
    balanced nutrition, some don't. The mere fact that it is
    "fast food" doesn't make it bad. That's a popular myth.

    For example, some foods from McDonald's contain more fat and
    sugar than you'd want in an ideal diet, but that doesn't
    make them "bad," just a poor choice as a dietary staple
    (i.e., you shouldn't live exclusively on Big Macs, for
    example). Other foods from McDonald's are fine: the
    standard, plain hamburger actually is a balanced meal, with
    about equal amounts of protein, fat, and carbohydrates
    (mostly starch).

    It's fashionable to call all fast food "bad," without
    further qualification, but it's not very accurate.

    Quoted message said:

    I have a hunch that the main reason fast food gets a lot
    of stick is because people eat too much of it, am I right?

    Probably. It's easy to eat a lot of fast food (that's why
    it's called fast food), and most fast food has more calories
    than it appears to have. For example, a typical full Big Mac
    meal of the kind I like doesn't seem like much (just a
    hamburger, fries, and Coke), but it has about 1125 kcal,
    which is very nearly my entire daily resting energy
    requirement. So eating two of those a day would make me fat,
    most likely, and even eating one a day consumes a very large
    chunk of the total calories I can afford to eat. The meal
    isn't intrinsically "bad," it's just higher in calories than
    it looks to be--and so it's easy to eat too much.

    Quoted message said:

    There seem to be alot of people who claim to be healthy
    eaters and yet snack on fast food for time to time.

    There is no conflict between the two.

    Quoted message said:

    Isn't this the same thing as people who smoke on the odd
    occasion.

    Almost, although smoking is unconditionally damaging even in
    the smallest amounts, whereas fast food is simply a bit less
    ideal than regular food.

    Quoted message said:

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people
    eat which makes it bad for you?

    For most people, it's the amount that causes problems, and
    that's why obesity is widespread. Very few people are
    suffering true malnutrition in developed countries. Their
    main problem is just that they eat too much of _everything_,
    fast food and otherwise.

    --
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    me directly.

  4. Once upon a time, our fellow gareth rambled on about "Is
    fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    This may seem like a dumb question but why do people say
    fast food is bad for the body and exactly how is it bad for
    the body. Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the low
    fiber content?

    I have a hunch that the main reason fast food gets a lot of
    stick is because people eat too much of it, am I right?
    There seem to be alot of people who claim to be healthy
    eaters and yet snack on fast food for time to time. Isn't
    this the same thing as people who smoke on the odd
    occasion.

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people eat
    which makes it bad for you?

    If anyone has some input, please help me. Thanx

    The ANSWER is: D. All of the above.

    Hark! My private health newsgroup beckons!
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    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

    The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the
    biopsychosocial model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages,
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    with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.

  5. Once upon a time, our fellow Mxsmanic rambled on about "Re:
    Is fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    There are many different types of fast food. Some provide
    balanced nutrition, some don't. The mere fact that it is
    "fast food" doesn't make it bad. That's a popular myth.

    The popular myth is that science geeks actually know what
    they are talking about.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    Could be why a lot of science geeks and physicians smoke?
    --
    John Gohde,
    Feeling Great and Better than Ever!

    Natural health is an eclectic self-care system of natural therapies
    that builds and restores health by working with the natural
    recuperative powers of the human body.
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  6. Once upon a time, our fellow Mxsmanic rambled on about "Re:
    Is fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's fashionable to call all fast food "bad," without
    further qualification, but it's not very accurate.

    Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple. He did not
    quibble over the details.

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂
    --
    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

    Get started on improving your personal health and fitness, today.
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  7. It is important to understand that while "fast food" is not
    the most healthy thing to put into your body... it is okay
    from time to time... Moderation is the key here folks... NOT
    EVERYDAY!!!

  8. John 'the Man said:

    The popular myth is that science geeks actually know what
    they are talking about.

    If they don't, who does?

    Quoted message said:

    Could be why a lot of science geeks and physicians smoke?

    Do they?

    --
    Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach
    me directly.

  9. Quoted message said:
    John 'the Mad said:

    The popular myth is that science geeks actually know
    what they are talking about.

    Quoted message said:

    Could be why a lot of science geeks and physicians
    smoke?


    And this from a 'natural health expert' who not only failed
    to hang on to *any* of his teeth, but who also managed to
    give himself *anaemia*...!!

    M.

  10. RE/

    Quoted message said:

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people eat
    which makes it bad for you?

    If anyone has some input, please help me. Thanx

    Last week a smalltime film maker made the news with a short
    he did on McDonald's meals.

    Sounded like he and his doc collaborated. He ate 3 meals a
    day at McDonald's for a month and the doc monitored his
    condition.

    He gained something like 25 or 30 pounds, his cholesterol
    went up 65 points, and his libido sank to almost nothing.

    My guess is that it's a combination of content (i.e.
    grease...) and high caloric density.
    --
    PeteCresswell

  11. Once upon a time, our fellow Mxsmanic rambled on about "Re:
    Is fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The popular myth is that science geeks actually know what
    they are talking about.

    If they don't, who does?

    Moi 🙂

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Could be why a lot of science geeks and physicians smoke?

    Do they?

    MartyB does. 🙁

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

  12. Once upon a time, our fellow Mark D. rambled on about "Re:
    Is fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Could be why a lot of science geeks and physicians
    smoke?

    Quoted message said:

    And this from a 'natural health expert' who not only failed
    to hang on to *any* of his teeth,

    How many times do I have to tell yo, ... Geek?

    No teeth, means no chronic inflammation. And, no
    inflammation means no heart disease. 🙂

    Some people are so dense. 🙁

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

  13. (Pete Cresswell) said:

    Sounded like he and his doc collaborated. He ate 3 meals a
    day at McDonald's for a month and the doc monitored his
    condition.

    He gained something like 25 or 30 pounds, his cholesterol
    went up 65 points, and his libido sank to almost nothing.

    Unless he exercised heavily, three meals a day was too much.

    Quoted message said:

    My guess is that it's a combination of content (i.e.
    grease...) and high caloric density.

    It could be just calories alone. That's over 3000 kcal a
    day, I suspect. He could have gotten exactly the same result
    on many other hypercaloric and restricted diets.

    --
    Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach
    me directly.

  14. [email hidden] (gareth) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    This may seem like a dumb question but why do people say
    fast food is bad for the body and exactly how is it bad
    for the body. Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the
    low fiber content?

    I have a hunch that the main reason fast food gets a lot
    of stick is because people eat too much of it, am I right?
    There seem to be alot of people who claim to be healthy
    eaters and yet snack on fast food for time to time. Isn't
    this the same thing as people who smoke on the odd
    occasion.

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people
    eat which makes it bad for you?

    If anyone has some input, please help me. Thanx

    Interesting question. Fast foods are not inherently bad just
    by the fact that is is fast food. Speaking generally, bad
    food more often is artificial food, or processed food.
    Virtually all foods that require processing or are processed
    have qualities that make them bad foods. For example,
    refined processed sugar, refined processed wheat, refined
    processed fats as well (trans-fats, margarine, canola oil,
    etc). Soy (protein) is one of the most processed foods
    available and is quite bad for human health. Ready to eat
    cereals are downright bad.

    TC

  15. On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:03:57 +0100, "Mirek Fidler" <[email hidden]>
    posted:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bad for the body and exactly how is it bad for the body.
    Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the low fiber
    content?

    High calories, kind of fat, kind of carbs, low fiber, low
    micronutrients.

    Not at all, Mirek. Perhaps you should look at the food
    tables for at least the Australian Big Mac.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people
    eat which makes it bad for you?

    Both.

    The quality is fine (of some of it). The quantity depends on
    your activity levels. There was a fit, skinny little old
    lady on the news recently who ate three meals a day at her
    local MacDonald's Restaurant. She was in fine health.

    Our Big Macs have lean meat, fresh salads and a healthy
    sesame seed bun.

  16. On 23 Mar 2004 23:56:27 -0800, [email hidden] (gareth)
    posted:

    Quoted message said:

    This may seem like a dumb question but why do people say
    fast food is bad for the body and exactly how is it bad for
    the body. Is it the additives, the amount of fat, the low
    fiber content?

    Food is not "bad " because of the speed of availability.
    Unless that speed is combined with overconsumption. Then
    some foods are bad and some good (nutritious)

    Quoted message said:

    I have a hunch that the main reason fast food gets a lot of
    stick is because people eat too much of it, am I right?

    Ayup!

    Quoted message said:

    There seem to be alot of people who claim to be healthy
    eaters and yet snack on fast food for time to time. Isn't
    this the same thing as people who smoke on the odd
    occasion.

    Nope. Food is always necessary. Smoking is never necessary,
    and never harmless

    Quoted message said:

    Is it the content of the food or the amount that people eat
    which makes it bad for you?

    Mostly the amount

  17. Quoted message said:

    Not at all, Mirek. Perhaps you should look at the food
    tables for at least the Australian Big Mac.

    Well, maybe Australian Big Mac is different. Who knows.

    Quoted message said:

    Our Big Macs have lean meat, fresh salads and a healthy
    sesame seed bun.

    How is that lean meat prepared?

    Is that bun whole-grain?

    Mirek

  18. On 24 Mar 2004 09:01:37 -0800, [email hidden] (harpoo) posted:

    Quoted message said:

    It is important to understand that while "fast food" is not
    the most healthy thing to put into your body... it is okay
    from time to time... Moderation is the key here folks...
    NOT EVERYDAY!!!

    But you are lumping a huge group of foods into the one
    category. I would include carrot and celery stix with a low
    fat cheese as "fast food"

  19. Once upon a time, our fellow Twits rambled on about "Re: Is
    fast food bad?." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
    sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Our Big Macs have lean meat, fresh salads and a healthy
    sesame seed bun.

    You have my condolences.
    --
    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Health is an Art, NOT a Science!
    naturalhealthperspective.comnaturalhealthperspective.com
    The ONLY Frauds in Health are those who couldn't care less about
    prevention. Beware of anybody who brags about eating a lousy diet,
    eating crispbread, non-dairy coffee creamer, being overweight, or
    about smoking!

  20. Mirek Fidler said:

    Well, maybe Australian Big Mac is different. Who knows.

    Or maybe some people actually read the ingredients, while
    others are content to parrot whatever the media and popular
    mythology feeds them.

    Quoted message said:

    How is that lean meat prepared?

    It's cooked.

    Quoted message said:

    Is that bun whole-grain?

    No. Why?

    --
    Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach
    me directly.

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