iron supplementation

Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6, or
also called Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron
for males with iron overload?

Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron from
affected organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must
the old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to accomplish
the removal?

I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
studies that are really definitive.

GT

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Tom, is that you? Isn't it more important to have the tests
done to see if iron levels arn't normal before thinking of
ways to lower it? Only 2 percent of the population have iron
overload. What you mention will prevent absorption of iron
from mostly veggie sources, if you are a mostly veggie kind
of guy, that is a problem.

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Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6, or
also called Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron
for males with iron overload?

Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron from
affected organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must
the old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to accomplish
the removal?

I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
studies that are really definitive.

GT

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If it is important to have tests done prior to removing
iron, wouldn't the converse be true?

i.e. having tests done should be mandatory before taking any
iron supplements - or supplements containing iron such
as vitamins?

Once it's in there, it's really hard to get out.

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Tom, is that you? Isn't it more important to have the
tests done to

see

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if iron levels arn't normal before thinking of ways to
lower it?

Only 2

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percent of the population have iron overload. What you
mention will prevent absorption of iron from mostly veggie
sources, if you are a

mostly

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veggie kind of guy, that is a problem.

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Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6,
or also

called

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Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron for males
with iron overload?

Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron from
affected organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must
the old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to
accomplish the removal?

I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
studies that are really definitive.

GT

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Absolutely, iron should only be supplemented to any degree
on the direction of a doc, as I have often mentioned,
adults shouldn't suppliment at all, unless a womem. Geting
it in or getting it out by supplimentation is not advised
unless testing shows one is not in the normal range. There
is a window for iron level that is normal, only testing
can indicate
it.

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If it is important to have tests done prior to removing
iron, wouldn't the converse be true?

i.e. having tests done should be mandatory before taking
any iron supplements - or supplements containing iron
such as vitamins?

Once it's in there, it's really hard to get out.

GT

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Tom, is that you? Isn't it more important to have the
tests done to

see

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if iron levels arn't normal before thinking of ways to
lower it?

Only 2

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percent of the population have iron overload. What you
mention will prevent absorption of iron from mostly
veggie sources, if you are a

mostly

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veggie kind of guy, that is a problem.

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Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6,
or also

called

Quoted message said:

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Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron for males
with iron overload?

Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron from
affected organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must
the old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to
accomplish the removal?

I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
studies that are really definitive.

GT

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Absolutely, iron should only be supplemented to any degree
on the direction of a doc, as I have often mentioned,
adults shouldn't

suppliment

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at all, unless a womem. Geting it in or getting it out by

supplimentation

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is not advised unless testing shows one is not in the
normal range. There is a window for iron level that is
normal, only testing can

indicate

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it.

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If it is important to have tests done prior to
removing iron,

wouldn't

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the converse be true?

i.e. having tests done should be mandatory before taking
any iron supplements - or supplements containing
iron such as vitamins?

Once it's in there, it's really hard to get out.

GT

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Tom, is that you? Isn't it more important to have the
tests done

to

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see

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if iron levels arn't normal before thinking of ways to
lower it?

Only 2

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percent of the population have iron overload. What you
mention

will

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prevent absorption of iron from mostly veggie sources,
if you are

a

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mostly

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veggie kind of guy, that is a problem.

>Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate
>(IP6, or also

called

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>Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron for
>males with

iron

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>overload?
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>Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron
>from

affected

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>organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must the
>old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to
>accomplish the removal?
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>I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
>studies

that

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>GT
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Subject: Re: iron supplementation
From: "GT" [email hidden]
Date: 5/3/2004 3:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time
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Any thoughts on the use of Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6, or
also called Phytic Acid) to inhibit the absorption of iron
for males with iron overload?

Also, will this substance chelate the existing iron from
affected organs, such as the liver and pancreas? Or must
the old remedy (giving blood) be used monthly to accomplish
the removal?

I've done a Google search and haven't come up with any
studies that are really definitive.

If you attempt to write to Bill Sardi .. he might be able to
give you the answer ..

I understand it will make you .. anemic ..

As to the iron in the organs and joints .. ?

I mentioned it to the doctor who has done EXTENSIVE research
that I would like to see if phytic acid / lecithin / vitamin
c lotion would be an effective .. attempt .. at a home
remedy to introduce the chelator phytic acid INTO the joints
.. and the vitamin C to dislodge the iron.

He queried as to why inositol hexakisphosphate taken by
mouth wouldn't be just as effective.

So .. it would lead one to believe it DOES allow the body to
chelate iron .. out .. of the various .. places . it may
reside .. ie:hemosiderin .. ?

But that is a guess and I have not run into any studies such
as an MRI which would / could distinguish the disappearance
of the iron .. ?

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One must consider that Tom is now talking to himself.