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  1. Please give a numerical grade to the new shows "Iron Chef
    America: Preview Special" and "Iron Chef America: Flay vs.
    Sakai" that aired on the Food Network tonight.

    Your scores must range between a perfect score of 100 [] or
    zilch 0 [] with 100 being the best kickass show and 0 being
    the worst, also include all commentary within the brackets.

    Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small number
    not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    <Important!! Ignore the time stamp!! This post was made in
    the future after the program had already aired!!!>

    Sloppy Joe, The Meat King: Prophet Junior Grade in THE TRUE
    RELIGION; The World Oligarchy

    You WILL bow down before The Meat King!

  2. So, what are you *really planning on doing with the e-mail
    addresses that you are trying to harvest? How much do you
    get paid per address?

    Sloppy Joe said:

    Please give a numerical grade to the new shows "Iron
    Chef America: Preview Special" and "Iron Chef America:
    Flay vs. Sakai" that aired on the Food Network tonight.

    Your scores must range between a perfect score of 100 []
    or zilch 0 [] with 100 being the best kickass show and 0
    being the worst, also include all commentary within the
    brackets.

    Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    <Important!! Ignore the time stamp!! This post was made in
    the future after the program had already aired!!!>

    Sloppy Joe, The Meat King: Prophet Junior Grade in THE
    TRUE RELIGION; The World Oligarchy

    You WILL bow down before The Meat King!

  3. BOB said:

    So, what are you *really planning on doing with the e-mail
    addresses that you are trying to harvest? How much do you
    get paid per address?

    If he wants to harvest email addresses all he has to do is
    search for random words on Google groups. While I think what
    he is doing is stupid, I doubt it is malicious. Unless he is
    both malicious *and* stupid.

    --
    John Gaughan johngaughan.netjohngaughan.net
    [email hidden]

  4. Eenie Meenie Chili Beanie
    Sloppy Joe, The Meat King is about to speak:

    Quoted message said:


    Please give a numerical grade

    No. I don't do numerical grades.

    Quoted message said:

    to the new shows "Iron Chef America: Preview Special"

    I give this show a blue sequin and 2 Cherry PEZ.

    Quoted message said:

    and "Iron Chef America: Flay vs. Sakai"

    I only watched half of this so I can only give it a bent
    paper-clip. Or maybe a Q-tip that's been used at one end, I
    can't decide.

    Quoted message said:

    that aired on the Food Network tonight.

    Oh! Wait! Food Network? I thought you meant the ones on Game
    Show Network.

    Quoted message said:

    Your scores must range between a perfect score of 100 [] or
    zilch 0 [] with 100 being the best kickass show and 0 being
    the worst, also include all commentary within the brackets.

    You numerologists [censored] me off, so snobby and superior with
    your number scales. Fie on you! If you were a hydrant and I
    were a dog I would pee on you.

    Quoted message said:

    Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small number
    not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    Meat King? I'm polishing my Meat King's Crown right
    now, baybee!!

    *IF* you know what I mean, and I think you do.

    ** Captain Infinity ...it's 10:00 ...do you know where your
    pants are?

  5. On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:32:28 -0500, John Gaughan <[email hidden]>
    Interjected.. :

    Quoted message said:
    BOB said:

    So, what are you *really planning on doing with the e-
    mail addresses that you are trying to harvest? How much
    do you get paid per address?

    If he wants to harvest email addresses all he has to do is
    search for random words on Google groups. While I think
    what he is doing is stupid, I doubt it is malicious.
    Unless he is both malicious *and* stupid.

    He may just think he is doing something special. Or
    offering a perhaps needed service.

    God knows the show needs all the help it can get. I
    considered it BLASPHEMOUS. And I am also considering
    boycotting the rest due to lack of interest.

    Steve

    Buffering... _69%_ |||||||||||||||||||

  6. [email hidden] (Sloppy Joe, The Meat King) wrote:

    Webtv.

    Enough said.

  7. "Roy Batty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Sloppy Joe, The Meat King) wrote:

    Webtv.

    Enough said.

    It's time for my WebTV joke again!!!

    Q: What kind of people use WebTV?

    R: Those that think AOL is too complicated!!!
    --
    ClabberHead 4.01
    aka
    Iron Chef Atkins
    248/196/185 Low-Carb since 5/1/03
    Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
    "Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
    are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    Please give a numerical grade to the new shows "Iron
    Chef America: Preview Special" and "Iron Chef America:
    Flay vs. Sakai" that aired on the Food Network tonight.

    Your scores must range between a perfect score of 100 []
    or zilch 0 [] with 100 being the best kickass show and 0
    being the worst, also include all commentary within the
    brackets.

    Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    ICA Preview Special 90

    ICA Flay vs. Sakai 60

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves the impression that the results
    were fixed.

  9. In rec.arts.tv Sloppy Joe, The Meat King <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    : after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    : number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    The host's suit didn't have enough ruffles ("a lifetime
    dedicated to martial arts? Please! So what's he doing on a
    cooking show then?"😉, and of course the local chef won.
    Don't they always? The French chefs win in France, the
    Japanese in Japan, and now the Americans in america.

    Bobby Flay's tacos beat Sakai's caviar? Seriously?

    It's watchable, but it's got nothing on the originals.

    Shawn

  10. Shawn H said:

    In rec.arts.tv Sloppy Joe, The Meat King
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : Averages will be posted some time within the next week or
    : after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    : number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    The host's suit didn't have enough ruffles ("a lifetime
    dedicated to martial arts? Please! So what's he doing on a
    cooking show then?"😉, and of course the local chef won.
    Don't they always? The French chefs win in France, the
    Japanese in Japan, and now the Americans in america.

    My guess is they knew that people would recognize the
    Chairman from his many martial arts films/TV shows, so they
    played that aspect up. The Japanese chairman was an actor
    that didn't seem to have many roles judging by his IMDB list
    (which may be very incomplete). I think his name is Marc
    Dracos. He didn't do a horrible job, but I would have liked
    him to have more flair like the Japanese Chairman. Heck, I
    still love how the Chairman starts to crack up before he
    bites into the pepper.

    Quoted message said:

    Bobby Flay's tacos beat Sakai's caviar? Seriously?

    It's possible that the judges really preferred something
    that they were more familiar with. It's tough when you only
    have three judges since their own personal preferences play
    such a large role in their votes.

    Quoted message said:

    It's watchable, but it's got nothing on the originals.

    Agreed. If they keep the show on the air then hopefully they
    will fine tune it. It will never be the same as the
    original, but it can certainly be improved over time.

  11. "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves


    the impression that

    Quoted message said:

    the results were fixed.

    Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say 'fixed'. I think the
    results were due to the horrible selection of judges. Most
    of them didn't seem to have the range of experience needed
    to appreciate the dishes by the Japanese Iron Chefs; it
    didn't look like they easily got past the "eww, this is
    weird" reaction.

    Overall, I think ICA had a lot of promise to it. The show's
    mood seemed about right, whereas IC USA tried too hard to be
    self-parodying and seemed to focus on the silliness rather
    than the food. I liked the new Chairman, and Alton Brown did
    a fantastic job as host. Mario Batali and Wolfgang Puck both
    brought a lot of skill and originality, and they both looked
    like they were having a fantastic time. (Their good attitude
    was almost as infectious as Bobby Flay's weird lip herpes)

    If they make ICA a regular show, they need to either get
    more qualified judges or stick to chefs of "Americanized"
    cuisines. You just can't bring on a guy who hates raw fish
    when one of the chefs was trained as a sushi chef. The guy
    on the floor (Kevin?) needs to be replaced with someone with
    more knowledge -- what's the point of having someone down in
    the kitchen if they can't recognize benito flakes or foie
    gras? And yes, Bobby Flay needs to be replaced as an Iron
    Chef. Forget about the whole cutting-board controversy.
    Forget about his arrogant attitude (although it really made
    him stand in poor comparison to Batali and Puck). The guy
    just doesn't seem terribly original -- he may be a great
    chef, but in his three solo battles on IC, I think he's made
    essentially the same set of dishes each time.

    Still, this incarnation of Iron Chef is certainly
    salvageable and could be a lot of fun with a little
    retooling. Sign me up for more!

    Dennis
    ----
    [email hidden] (Home) [email hidden] (Work)
    users.starpower.netdf2m

  12. "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <14329-4089AFDC-13@storefull-
    3273.bay.webtv.net>,


    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Please give a numerical grade to the new shows "Iron
    Chef America: Preview Special" and "Iron Chef
    America: Flay vs. Sakai" that aired on the Food
    Network tonight.

    Your scores must range between a perfect score of 100 []
    or zilch 0 [] with 100 being the best kickass show and 0
    being the worst, also include all commentary within the
    brackets.

    Averages will be posted some time within the next week
    or after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    ICA Preview Special 90

    ICA Flay vs. Sakai 60

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves


    the impression that

    Quoted message said:

    the results were fixed.

    And you think the original Japanese version wasn't????

    It's like pro wrestling, son. It's fixed for maximum
    entertainment value.

    In my opinion, the right chef/team only won about 1/3rd of
    the time in the original. and ICA is running at right about
    that percentage.

    Batali/Sakai whipped the pants off Flay/Moromoto, but look
    who was graded higher?

  13. "Dennis Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves


    the impression that

    Quoted message said:

    the results were fixed.

    Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say 'fixed'. I think the
    results were due


    to

    Quoted message said:

    the horrible selection of judges. Most of them didn't seem
    to have the range of experience needed to appreciate the
    dishes by the Japanese Iron Chefs; it didn't look like
    they easily got past the "eww, this is weird" reaction.

    Overall, I think ICA had a lot of promise to it. The
    show's mood seemed about right, whereas IC USA tried too
    hard to be self-parodying and seemed to focus on the
    silliness rather than the food. I liked the new Chairman,
    and Alton Brown did a fantastic job as host. Mario Batali
    and Wolfgang


    Puck

    Quoted message said:

    both brought a lot of skill and originality, and they both
    looked like


    they

    Quoted message said:

    were having a fantastic time. (Their good attitude was
    almost as


    infectious

    Quoted message said:

    as Bobby Flay's weird lip herpes)

    I've never really cared for Puck based on his own show,
    but watching him here, I have a newfound appreciation for
    his talents.

    Quoted message said:


    If they make ICA a regular show, they need to either get
    more qualified judges or stick to chefs of "Americanized"
    cuisines. You just can't bring on a guy who hates raw fish
    when one of the chefs was trained as a sushi chef. The guy
    on the floor (Kevin?) needs to be replaced with someone


    with

    Quoted message said:

    more knowledge -- what's the point of having someone down
    in the kitchen


    if

    Quoted message said:

    they can't recognize benito flakes or foie gras? And yes,
    Bobby Flay


    needs

    Quoted message said:

    to be replaced as an Iron Chef. Forget about the whole cutting-
    board controversy. Forget about his arrogant attitude
    (although it really made him stand in poor comparison to
    Batali and Puck). The guy just doesn't


    seem

    Quoted message said:

    terribly original -- he may be a great chef, but in his
    three solo battles on IC, I think he's made essentially
    the same set of dishes each time.

    Agreed. But who else is there from Food TV's stable of
    chefs? Emeril wouldn't work, he'd be just as bad as Flay,
    everything would have tons of garlic and pork fat in it.
    Ming Tsai (spelling?) is the only chef I can think of that
    might fit. Is he even associated with Food TV anymore? They
    don't list his show on their website anymore.

    The majority of the Food TV celebrity hosts are just that,
    HOSTS, not chefs. I think Jamie Oliver is the only other
    real cook on the network.

  14. shawn said:
    Shawn H said:

    In rec.arts.tv Sloppy Joe, The Meat King
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : Averages will be posted some time within the next week
    : or after the replies trickle to an embarrassingly small
    : number not befitting of my stature as your Meat King.

    The host's suit didn't have enough ruffles ("a lifetime
    dedicated to martial arts? Please! So what's he doing on a
    cooking show then?"😉, and of course the local chef won.
    Don't they always? The French chefs win in France, the
    Japanese in Japan, and now the Americans in america.

    My guess is they knew that people would recognize the
    Chairman from his many martial arts films/TV shows, so they
    played that aspect up. The Japanese chairman was an actor
    that didn't seem to have many roles judging by his IMDB
    list (which may be very incomplete). I think his name is
    Marc Dracos. He didn't do a horrible job, but I would have
    liked him to have more flair like the Japanese Chairman.
    Heck, I still love how the Chairman starts to crack up
    before he bites into the pepper.

    When the Chairman offers Crow as the secret ingredient then
    we will know. He is supposed to be Kaga's nephew from what
    was said in the introduction special. I do wish he was more
    of a presence. He is way too understated. Perhaps if they
    turned him up to about half-Shatner he would be better.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Bobby Flay's tacos beat Sakai's caviar? Seriously?

    It's possible that the judges really preferred something
    that they were more familiar with. It's tough when you only
    have three judges since their own personal preferences play
    such a large role in their votes.

    Quoted message said:

    It's watchable, but it's got nothing on the originals.

    Agreed. If they keep the show on the air then hopefully
    they will fine tune it. It will never be the same as the
    original, but it can certainly be improved over time.

    They are going to show a week of new Japanese episodes next
    week. These should be older ones. I guess that they should
    be digging back towards the beginning.
    --
    John Duncan Yoyo ------------------------------o) Brought to
    you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee. Coruscant is
    far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

  15. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:01:32 -0700, "Hidalgo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves the impression that the results were
    fixed.

    Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say 'fixed'. I think the
    results were due to the horrible selection of judges.
    Most of them didn't seem to have the range of experience
    needed to appreciate the dishes by the Japanese Iron
    Chefs; it didn't look like they easily got past the "eww,
    this is weird" reaction.

    I didn't like the guy from Vogue but he had the credentials.
    The guy from Queer Eye was very good.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Overall, I think ICA had a lot of promise to it. The
    show's mood seemed about right, whereas IC USA tried too
    hard to be self-parodying and seemed to focus on the
    silliness rather than the food. I liked the new Chairman,
    and Alton Brown did a fantastic job as host. Mario Batali
    and Wolfgang Puck both brought a lot of skill and
    originality, and they both looked like they were having a
    fantastic time. (Their good attitude was almost as
    infectious as Bobby Flay's weird lip herpes)

    I've never really cared for Puck based on his own show,
    but watching him here, I have a newfound appreciation for
    his talents.

    His assistant was as good as he was. She might be an
    interesting combatant.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If they make ICA a regular show, they need to either get
    more qualified judges or stick to chefs of "Americanized"
    cuisines. You just can't bring on a guy who hates raw
    fish when one of the chefs was trained as a sushi chef.
    The guy on the floor (Kevin?) needs to be replaced with
    someone with more knowledge -- what's the point of having
    someone down in the kitchen if they can't recognize
    benito flakes or foie gras? And yes, Bobby Flay needs to
    be replaced as an Iron Chef. Forget about the whole cutting-
    board controversy. Forget about his arrogant attitude
    (although it really made him stand in poor comparison to
    Batali and Puck). The guy just doesn't seem terribly
    original -- he may be a great chef, but in his three solo
    battles on IC, I think he's made essentially the same set
    of dishes each time.

    Agreed. But who else is there from Food TV's stable of
    chefs? Emeril wouldn't work, he'd be just as bad as Flay,
    everything would have tons of garlic and pork fat in it.
    Ming Tsai (spelling?) is the only chef I can think of that
    might fit. Is he even associated with Food TV anymore? They
    don't list his show on their website anymore.

    I couldn't see Emeril as a regular but he would make a good
    contestant if he would do it. I got the impression from his
    show that he isn't fond of Iron Chef- something about
    competition for his main man position maybe.

    Ming has a new show on our local PBS outlet and Ming's Quest
    is still listed on Fine Living which is a sister network to
    Food TV. His shows are on the shopping page on Food TV's web
    page but they link to nothing. I guess he may be on the outs
    with Food TV but would probably battle if asked.

    Quoted message said:


    The majority of the Food TV celebrity hosts are just that,
    HOSTS, not chefs. I think Jamie Oliver is the only other
    real cook on the network.

    He would be fun to see in the stadium.

    --
    John Duncan Yoyo ------------------------------o) Brought to
    you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee. Coruscant is
    far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

  16. What about Tyler Florence as an Iron Chef?

    Even if his food's lousy, he'd be nice to look at.

    Todd English ALMOST made the other show worth watching.

    "John Duncan Yoyo" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Hidalgo said:

    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    > flawed, and leaves the impression that the results
    > were fixed.

    Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say 'fixed'. I think the
    results were


    due

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to the horrible selection of judges. Most of them
    didn't seem to have


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    range of experience needed to appreciate the dishes by
    the Japanese


    Iron

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Chefs; it didn't look like they easily got past the
    "eww, this is


    weird"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    reaction.

    I didn't like the guy from Vogue but he had the
    credentials. The guy from Queer Eye was very good.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Overall, I think ICA had a lot of promise to it. The
    show's mood


    seemed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about right, whereas IC USA tried too hard to be self-
    parodying and


    seemed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to focus on the silliness rather than the food. I liked
    the new


    Chairman,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and Alton Brown did a fantastic job as host. Mario
    Batali and Wolfgang Puck both brought a lot of skill
    and originality, and they both looked


    like

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    they were having a fantastic time. (Their good attitude
    was almost as infectious as Bobby Flay's weird lip
    herpes)

    I've never really cared for Puck based on his own show,
    but watching him here, I have a newfound appreciation for
    his talents.

    His assistant was as good as he was. She might be an
    interesting combatant.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If they make ICA a regular show, they need to either
    get more qualified judges or stick to chefs of
    "Americanized" cuisines. You just can't


    bring

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on a guy who hates raw fish when one of the chefs was
    trained as a


    sushi

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    chef. The guy on the floor (Kevin?) needs to be
    replaced with someone with more knowledge -- what's the
    point of having someone down in the kitchen if they
    can't recognize benito flakes or foie gras? And yes,


    Bobby Flay

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    needs to be replaced as an Iron Chef. Forget about the
    whole


    cutting-board

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    controversy. Forget about his arrogant attitude
    (although it really


    made

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    him stand in poor comparison to Batali and Puck). The
    guy just doesn't seem terribly original -- he may be a
    great chef, but in his three solo


    battles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on IC, I think he's made essentially the same set of
    dishes each time.

    Agreed. But who else is there from Food TV's stable of
    chefs? Emeril wouldn't work, he'd be just as bad as Flay,
    everything would have tons of garlic and pork fat in it.
    Ming Tsai (spelling?) is the only chef I can think of
    that might fit. Is he even associated with Food TV
    anymore? They don't list his show on their website
    anymore.

    I couldn't see Emeril as a regular but he would make a
    good contestant if he would do it. I got the impression
    from his show that he isn't fond of Iron Chef- something
    about competition for his main man position maybe.

    Ming has a new show on our local PBS outlet and Ming's
    Quest is still listed on Fine Living which is a sister
    network to Food TV. His shows are on the shopping page on
    Food TV's web page but they link to nothing. I guess he
    may be on the outs with Food TV but would probably battle
    if asked.

    Quoted message said:


    The majority of the Food TV celebrity hosts are just
    that, HOSTS, not


    chefs.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think Jamie Oliver is the only other real cook on the
    network.

    He would be fun to see in the stadium.

    --
    John Duncan Yoyo ------------------------------o) Brought
    to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
    Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

  17. "John Duncan Yoyo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When the Chairman offers Crow as the secret ingredient
    then we will know. He is supposed to be Kaga's nephew
    from what was said in the introduction special. I do wish
    he was more of a presence. He is way too understated.
    Perhaps if they turned him up to about half-Shatner he
    would be better.

    Or just short of there, maybe...say, 450 milliShatners...:-)

    Bob M.

  18. "Dennis Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves


    the impression that

    Quoted message said:

    the results were fixed.

    And yes, Bobby Flay needs to be replaced as an Iron Chef.
    Forget about the whole cutting-board controversy. Forget
    about his arrogant attitude (although it really made him
    stand in poor comparison to Batali and Puck). The guy
    just doesn't


    seem

    Quoted message said:

    terribly original -- he may be a great chef, but in his
    three solo battles on IC, I think he's made essentially
    the same set of dishes each time.

    Yup, rigged so that Flay will never loose. Doug.

  19. Doug Cutler said:

    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While ICA improves on the IC USA attempt, it is still
    flawed, and leaves

    the impression that

    Quoted message said:

    the results were fixed.

    And yes, Bobby Flay needs to be replaced as an Iron Chef.
    Forget about the whole cutting-board controversy. Forget
    about his arrogant attitude (although it really made him
    stand in poor comparison to Batali and Puck). The guy
    just doesn't

    seem

    Quoted message said:

    terribly original -- he may be a great chef, but in his
    three solo battles on IC, I think he's made essentially
    the same set of dishes each time.

    Yup, rigged so that Flay will never loose. Doug.

    Or lose either....

  20. Bob Myers said:


    "John Duncan Yoyo" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When the Chairman offers Crow as the secret ingredient
    then we will know. He is supposed to be Kaga's nephew
    from what was said in the introduction special. I do wish
    he was more of a presence. He is way too understated.
    Perhaps if they turned him up to about half-Shatner he
    would be better.

    Or just short of there, maybe...say, 450 milliShatners...:-
    )


    After watching the Intro special I'd say Kaga ranged from
    about 0.65 Shatners to 1.20 Shatners. But I thought Shatner
    was the thing that was least wrong with IC-USA.
    --
    John Duncan Yoyo ------------------------------o) Brought to
    you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee. Coruscant is
    far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

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