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  1. ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something original
    and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Steve E.

  2. spademan o---[) * <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Steve E.

    Heheheh - that's excellent! One thing - will he not be altering the head angle if he changes
    gearing? Just curious if it will make much difference.

    I like the 'idea'.

    Shaun aRe

  3. I'm stupid - Why are the forks on the wrong way ?

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    I'm stupid - Why are the forks on the wrong way ?

    They appear to be Manitou forks. Manitou are using 'reverse arch technology', so, the arch is behind
    the forks, but the forks are on the right way around.

    Their 'marketing dept' line is that it makes the forks stiffer, _IIRC_, but in reality, copulation
    knows whether it does or not, because I don't.

    HTH Fish Boy!

    Shaun aRe

  5. Shaun Rimmer said:
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    <((((º> <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... I'm
    stupid - Why are the forks on the wrong way ?

    They appear to be Manitou forks. Manitou are using 'reverse arch technology', so, the arch is
    behind the forks, but the forks are on the right way around.

    Their 'marketing dept' line is that it makes the forks stiffer, _IIRC_, but in reality, copulation
    knows whether it does or not, because I don't.

    HTH Fish Boy!

    Shaun aRe

    my understanding was that at least with v-brakes there was an advantage for braking as well.
    obviously since this is a diskie that dont matter, but there u go

    panda

  6. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

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    I'm stupid - Why are the forks on the wrong way ?

    They appear to be Manitou forks. Manitou are using 'reverse arch technology', so, the arch is
    behind the forks, but the forks are on the right way around.

    Their 'marketing dept' line is that it makes the forks stiffer, _IIRC_,


    but

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    in reality, copulation knows whether it does or not, because I don't.

    Since most wheels are round the tyre is significantly lower behind the fork than in front, this
    means the brace can be lower and therefore shorter and therefore stiffer. In theory. Pace had
    reverse arches 10 years ago.

    Steve E.

  7. spademan o---[) * <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    <((((º> <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    I'm stupid - Why are the forks on the wrong way ?

    They appear to be Manitou forks. Manitou are using 'reverse arch technology', so, the arch is
    behind the forks, but the forks are on the right way around.

    Their 'marketing dept' line is that it makes the forks stiffer, _IIRC_,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    in reality, copulation knows whether it does or not, because I don't.

    Since most wheels are round the tyre is significantly lower behind the


    fork

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    than in front, this means the brace can be lower and therefore shorter and therefore stiffer. In
    theory. Pace had reverse arches 10 years ago.

    Cheers for the knowledgeable clarification Steve! I hadn't realised about the round wheel
    thing..........

    Shaun aRe

  8. Oh !

    and.....

    Oh !

    🙂

    Whadyl they think of next ?

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    Oh !

    and.....

    Oh !

    🙂

    Whadyl they think of next ?

    "Non-suspension fork technology - the ultimate in stiffness!" ?

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  10. "spademan o---[\) *" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original

    Right. Why do something simple like horizontal dropouts when you can have a two-piece frame with
    bolts and sliders and pivots?

    CC

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    "spademan o---[\) *" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original

    Right. Why do something simple like horizontal dropouts when you can have a two-piece frame with
    bolts and sliders and pivots?

    So he could easily run disc brakes and QR wheel without fiddling, and no doubt, a lot of it was just
    for the 'something slightly different' project buzz.

    I dunno, why does anyone do anything they don't have to do? Couldn't possibly have anything to do
    with 'fun', could it?

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  12. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Forget the bike...check out his 300 HP electric Porsche 350! Zero to 50 MPH in 5 seconds. I've been
    saying for years that electrics could be very fast once mfr's start taking them seriously. Electric
    motors provide full torque at all RPM's, so no need for a transmission. (That's why trains use 'em.)

    -Barry

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    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Forget the bike...

    What bike?

    Quoted message said:

    check out his 300 HP electric Porsche 350! Zero to 50 MPH in 5 seconds.

    That's a bit slow for 300 HP in a smallish car?!? Batteries (?sulpur sodium?) heavy are they?

    Quoted message said:

    I've been saying for years that electrics could be very fast once mfr's start taking them
    seriously.

    Yes, but how many miles between 'refills'?

    Shaun aRe

  14. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    So he could easily run disc brakes

    integrity so that you can run a disc on the rear wheel. Whee!

    Quoted message said:

    and QR wheel without fiddling,

    Anybody who makes a singlespeed/QR/disc rear hub will be the first against the wall when the
    revolution comes.

    Quoted message said:

    'something slightly different' project buzz.

    'Something more than a little stupid', IMO.

    CC

  15. spademan o---) * said:

    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Steve E.

    What's the matter with the paint job? Could you do any better?

    ~Travis
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    (current project: Automotive exhaust flame-thrower)

  16. Corvus Corvax <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    So he could easily run disc brakes


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    integrity so that you can run a disc on the rear wheel. Whee!

    Does it have any less structural integrity than the average XC FS frame? Looks just like an
    experiment to me.

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    and QR wheel without fiddling,

    Anybody who makes a singlespeed/QR/disc rear hub will be the first against the wall when the
    revolution comes.

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    'something slightly different' project buzz.

    'Something more than a little stupid', IMO.

    CC

    Maybe, maybe not - I suppose if the guy dies because of it, we'll never know............

    Shaun aRe

  17. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Steve E.

    Neat idea, especially if you travel a lot. I think I'd like a better mechanism mounting it to the
    BB, but thats just me. And yeah, I gotta agree on the color scheme - lets see how many colors
    there are.

    Black, grey, silver. The normal ones. Yellow. Green Frame Greenish tires Deep red fork bright red
    bottle cages turquoise seatpost collar dark blue seatbag blue grips purple headset....

    icky. Still a cool idea, even if he doesn't have any fashion sense!

    Jon Bond black, grey, and silver bike, with tiny red, yellow, and blue bits on component stickers.
    (IE, shock, tires, rims...)

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    Right. Why do something simple like horizontal dropouts when you can have a two-piece frame with
    bolts and sliders and pivots?

    CC

    Maybe you missed the part about being to take it apart to travel?

  19. "derek" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Maybe you missed the part about being to take it apart to travel?

    Quite so. I did miss that, which makes the whole project make _much_ more sense. Thanks for pointing
    it out. Es culpa me.

    CC

  20. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ohler.comindex.html

    Okay so it might not be a freeride bike, but at least he's had a go at designing something
    original and has managed to keep it simple looking. Dodgy paintjob though....

    Steve E.

    The colours make the bike look so clownish I can't help feeling sorry for
    it. Anyone know where he got the headset cap or was that a custom?

    bloocow - vanity strikes

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