Intersting Changes In South Beach Philosophy

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If you started The South Beach Diet by following the book and then
switched
to the Web site, you can find updates to the diet by clicking on the Diet
Tips
link on the home page. This will take you to a page where you can next
select
Diet Updates. Here you will find the latest noteworthy changes, including
the
following:

Medium-sized bananas are now allowed beginning in Phase 2
Tomatoes are no longer limited in any Phase
Carrots are now allowed starting in Phase 2
Onions are not limited in any Phase
Phase 1 now includes two daily servings of 1 percent or fat-free milk,
low-fat
plain soymilk, 1 percent or fat-free buttermilk, and fat-free plain
yogurt.
Phases 2 and 3 include two to three servings.
Not yet a member of The South Beach DietT Online?

Yeah, he's a real prince. You have to pay to join the online "updates."

"Armand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quote from their email "Daily":

The South Beach Diet is constantly evolving to address the latest

nutritional

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studies and information. Dr. Agatston makes every effort to keep the diet

at

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the forefront of scientific discovery. From time to time, his books will

be

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reprinted with the latest recommendations, but you can always find the

most

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up-to-date guidelines on the Web site.
If you started The South Beach Diet by following the book and then

switched

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to the Web site, you can find updates to the diet by clicking on the Diet

Tips

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link on the home page. This will take you to a page where you can next

select

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Diet Updates. Here you will find the latest noteworthy changes, including

the

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following:

Medium-sized bananas are now allowed beginning in Phase 2
Tomatoes are no longer limited in any Phase
Carrots are now allowed starting in Phase 2
Onions are not limited in any Phase
Phase 1 now includes two daily servings of 1 percent or fat-free milk,

low-fat

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plain soymilk, 1 percent or fat-free buttermilk, and fat-free plain

yogurt.

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Phases 2 and 3 include two to three servings.
Not yet a member of The South Beach DietT Online?

I agree with the tomatoes. I see no reason not to eat them. I usually lose
more if I eat them. If I want to lose for sure, I just need to eat stewed
tomatoes and ground meat. Yum!

"The Low-Carb Bartender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<UShrd.174968$HA.145500@attbi_s01>...

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If you started The South Beach Diet by following the book and then
switched
to the Web site, you can find updates to the diet by clicking on the Diet
Tips
link on the home page. This will take you to a page where you can next
select
Diet Updates. Here you will find the latest noteworthy changes, including
the
following:

Medium-sized bananas are now allowed beginning in Phase 2
Tomatoes are no longer limited in any Phase
Carrots are now allowed starting in Phase 2
Onions are not limited in any Phase
Phase 1 now includes two daily servings of 1 percent or fat-free milk,
low-fat
plain soymilk, 1 percent or fat-free buttermilk, and fat-free plain
yogurt.
Phases 2 and 3 include two to three servings.
Not yet a member of The South Beach DietT Online?

Yeah, he's a real prince. You have to pay to join the online "updates."

Strange criticism coming from someone who peddles books that contain
information. I don't see you giving away your advice for free.

Gee, advice to eat more carbs and less fat. This does not sound like the
"forefront of scientific discovery" to me.

"Armand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quote from their email "Daily":

The South Beach Diet is constantly evolving to address the latest

nutritional

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studies and information. Dr. Agatston makes every effort to keep the diet

at

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the forefront of scientific discovery. [snip]

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you will find the latest noteworthy changes, including the
following:

Medium-sized bananas are now allowed beginning in Phase 2
Tomatoes are no longer limited in any Phase
Carrots are now allowed starting in Phase 2
Onions are not limited in any Phase
Phase 1 now includes two daily servings of 1 percent or fat-free milk,

low-fat

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plain soymilk, 1 percent or fat-free buttermilk, and fat-free plain

yogurt.

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Phases 2 and 3 include two to three servings.

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"You have to pay to join the online "updates."

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Strange criticism coming from someone who peddles books that contain
information. I don't see you giving away your advice for free.

Do you work for free? What would you do if your boss told you he wasn't
going to pay you after you put in hard hours? I charge for my books (that's
what authors do, duh!), but if you join my mailing list, I provide plenty of
FREE information. I don't sell you a book and then keep on charging for
additional information like Agatston does.

I always get a kick out of mooches like yourself who expect to get paid for
working but then expect writers to provide complimentary books to thousands.

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Tomatoes are no longer limited in any Phase
Onions are not limited in any Phase

I don't know, for me, these two are nice but need to be limited......

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<krkrd.3144

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I agree with the tomatoes. I see no reason not to eat them. I usually lose
more if I eat them. If I want to lose for sure, I just need to eat stewed
tomatoes and ground meat. Yum!

Really? That is such good news if you are telling the truth.....which
I am sure you are. I love tomatoes cooked with beef. I always though
tomatoes had quite a lot of carbs though. Is it because of the fiber
that they are ok??

"The Low-Carb Bartender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I always get a kick out of mooches like yourself who expect to get paid

for

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working but then expect writers to provide complimentary books to

thousands.

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But you are the one who criticized South Beach for charging for update
information, aren't you? Don't you see your own hypocrisy?

pavane

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I always get a kick out of mooches like yourself who expect to get paid

for

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working but then expect writers to provide complimentary books to

thousands.

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But you are the one who criticized South Beach for charging for update
information, aren't you? Don't you see your own hypocrisy?

pavane

Pavane. I thought you dried up and blew away.
Another nitwit...or are you a mooch, too? Read my posts. I don't charge for
supplemental information. South Beach does.
As a writer, I have every right to charge for my work. I don't however,
bleed the public with information I "forgot" to include in the book. I offer
a FREE newsletter that updates information in the book.

Like I said before, do you work for free?

Yeah, apparently that one went right over Bob's head. It's OK for him
to charge for information, but if anyone else does it, then it's
apparently wrong. Or at least Bob get's to decide at what arbitrary
point they should charge or give it away. Just because Bob thinks
people should give away updates for free doesn't mean it's wrong for
others to charge. Perhaps that's because people consider the South
Beach advice valuable enough to pay for it.

You know, Bob seems like a guy that could contribute so much to this
group, yet almost everytime he posts something, it's some stupid
negative remark like this that adds little and quickly degenerates into
even less.

x-no-archive: yes

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Just because Bob thinks
people should give away updates for free doesn't mean it's wrong for
others to charge. Perhaps that's because people consider the South
Beach advice valuable enough to pay for it.

But it's not. None of it is new, it's just rewarmed info, with sat fat
fearmongering unsupported by available science. Basically, SBD is charging for
old and incorrect info, and for corrections due to its initial, sloppy
presentation.

Nothing wrong with charging for value, but something is very wrong with
charging into the hot lc diet market with [censored].

Susan

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with sat fat
fearmongering unsupported by available science.

If you could actually read, cipher and abosrb a citation, hell, if you
could simply tell if a study was valid or not, I would argue with you and
you would lose.

Since you can't, I won't.

However, rest assured, that there is certainly excellent and valid science
that demonstrates the harm of sat fat in diets. Whether you care to believe
that or not is your issue.