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  1. Entitled "The Last Dinner on the Titanic - Menus and Recipes from the Great
    Liner" by Rich Archbold and Dana McCauley, I read this bit of information
    which I find fascinating. I've snipped some portions but the quotes from
    the book are accurate:

    "When all the lifeboats had departed, more than half of
    Titanic's passengers and crew remained on the ship. One of
    those was the chief baker, Charles Joughin, who had passed a
    most eventful night. When first awakened by the impact, he
    had immediately organized a party of bakers to provision the
    lifeboats with any bread they could find. Then he helped
    load the boats and even bullied reluctant passengers into
    leaving the sinking ship."

    "When all the boats were away, Joughin began throwing wooden
    chairs overboard for use as life rafts. Whenever he needed a
    break, he nipped back to his cabin on E-deck for a snort of
    whisky. By the time the ship was about to sink, he seemed
    hardly to have minded."

    "Calmly, almost nonchalantly, he stepped over the starboard
    rail and began climbing the side of the ship until he stood
    on the upended stern." [NOTE: this remind anyone of what
    those folks in the film did? Could the guy wearing white
    suit sipping from the flask next to Leo DiCaprio and Kate
    Winslett have been intended to portray Joughin?] He cinched
    in his lifebelt as the ship began its plunge, stepped calmly
    into the water and swam gently away."

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting as
    an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the icy
    water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    OB Food:

    Vegetable Soup (from the Third Class, scaled in the book
    to serve 6)

    2 Tbps. butter 1 finely chopped onion 1 cup each finely
    chopped celery and carrot 1 potato, peeled and cubed 5
    cloves garlic, minced 1 tsp. each dried oregano and thyme 1
    bay leaf 6 cups chicken or vegetable stock 2 cups white
    kidney beans, drained 1 cup corn kernels 1 cup asparagus
    tips 2 cups shredded Swiss chard or spinach salt & pepper

    In a large pot, melt butter over medium heat. Stir in onion,
    celery, carrots, potato, garlic, oregano, thyme and bay
    leaf. Cover and cook, stirring often, for 10 minutes or
    until onion is translucent.

    Stir in stock and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to medium
    and simmer for 15-20 minutes or until vegetables are
    almost tender.

    Meanwhile, drain and rinse beans. Stir beans, corn and
    asparagus into vegetable mixture. Cook, for 5 minutes until
    asparagus is bright green and tender. Stir in Swiss chard
    and season to taste with salt & pepper. Makes 6 servings.

    Jill

  2. jmcquown said:

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting
    as an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the
    icy water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    That's such a great story, it is almost a shame to
    question it, but wouldn't the alcohol only help him lose
    body heat faster?

    --Lia

  3. Julia Altshuler said:
    jmcquown said:

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting
    as an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the
    icy water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    That's such a great story, it is almost a shame to
    question it, but wouldn't the alcohol only help him lose
    body heat faster?

    --Lia

    I dunno, just quoted what the book said. My focus was pretty
    much on this guy knowing the ship was going down and
    worrying about putting bread and such in the lifeboats. My
    first thought would *not* be "Right! The ship is sinking,
    better bake some more buns for the boats!" If it's true, I
    applaude the gentleman who apparently didn't stick any bread
    in his own (soon to be waterlogged) pockets 😉

    Jill

  4. Julia Altshuler said:
    jmcquown said:

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting
    as an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the
    icy water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    That's such a great story, it is almost a shame to
    question it, but wouldn't the alcohol only help him lose
    body heat faster?

    --Lia

    Lia, you might find the link to testimony as taken after
    the sinking involving the chief baker interesting. I
    certainly do 🙂

    titanicinquiry.orgBOTInq06Joughin01.html

    Jill

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting
    as an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the
    icy water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    hmmm. Interesting story, but this part rings false. The
    problem in very cold water isn't in literally freezing (the
    liquid in your body doesn't solidify), it's in reduced body
    temperature, which an anti-freeze doesn't prevent. This is
    opposed to frostbite, which requires ambient temperatures
    BELOW freezing (and won't happen in water that's above the
    freezing point). More to the point, alcohol dilates blood
    vessels, which would cause you to lose body heat faster.

    --
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  6. Scott <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:

    "Thanks, presumeably, to the alcohol in his blood acting
    as an anti-freeze, Joughin survived several hours in the
    icy water and emerged none the worse for the experience."

    hmmm. Interesting story, but this part rings false. The
    problem in very cold water isn't in literally freezing
    (the liquid in your body doesn't solidify), it's in
    reduced body temperature, which an anti-freeze doesn't
    prevent. This is opposed to frostbite, which requires
    ambient temperatures BELOW freezing (and won't happen in
    water that's above the freezing point).

    Remember that brine or salt water can be chilled below the
    freezing point of 32°F. and still remain a liquid.

    Quoted message said:

    More to the point, alcohol dilates blood vessels, which
    would cause you to lose body heat faster.

    --
    Wayne in Phoenix

    If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

  7. jmcquown said:

    Lia, you might find the link to testimony as taken after
    the sinking involving the chief baker interesting. I
    certainly do 🙂

    titanicinquiry.orgBOTInq06Joughi
    n01.html

    Thanks for the link. The things I learn!

    --Lia

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