Interesting one this morning...

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a very
sudden backward surge into the cycle path and I hit him at
well over 20 mph with the right shoulder in a sort of
braking slide.

The interesting thing about it was that he did a double
rolling summersault and I did a sudden stop with the
momentum all transferred to the ped.

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to
him as he was too aggressive about it all. Could have been
nasty though.

The joys of the Brighton cycle paths.

Brian

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A ped stepped backwards off the pavement into my path,
without looking, to let a POBOTP* pass! Nearly knocked
said ped flat.

I hurled my usual "Push it!" at the POBOTP*.

*Person On a Bike On The Pavement

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle
lane yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing phase
at the lights was over then proceeded when the light went
green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

richard

* which is of course oxymoronic, because as every car
driver will tell you the lights *always* appear green
to cyclists.

Brian Drury said:

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a
very sudden backward surge into the cycle path and I hit
him at well over 20 mph with the right shoulder in a sort
of braking slide.

The interesting thing about it was that he did a double
rolling summersault and I did a sudden stop with the
momentum all transferred to the ped.

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to
him as he was too aggressive about it all. Could have been
nasty though.

The joys of the Brighton cycle paths.

Brian

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Quoted message said:

A ped stepped backwards off the pavement into my path,
without looking, to let a POBOTP* pass! Nearly knocked
said ped flat.

I hurled my usual "Push it!" at the POBOTP*.

*Person On a Bike On The Pavement

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 22:13:56 +0100 someone who may be "Brian Drury"
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Quoted message said:

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a
very sudden backward surge into the cycle path and I hit
him at well over 20 mph with the right shoulder in a sort
of braking slide. [snip]

Quoted message said:

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to
him as he was too aggressive about it all.

Obviously it was your fault that he stepped backwards.

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:32:27 +0100, richard <[email hidden]>
wrote (more or less):

Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle
lane yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing
phase at the lights was over then proceeded when the light
went green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

At a guess, he thinks that anything with wheels is a bike.

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a
recumbent... ;-)
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:32:27 +0100, richard
<[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle
lane yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing
phase at the lights was over then proceeded when the
light went green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

At a guess, he thinks that anything with wheels is a bike.

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a
recumbent...

<kibology> 20 dollars, same as in town. </kibology>

Alternatively, about 20 mph on the flat I'd guess.
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Gawnsoft said:

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a
recumbent... ;-)

Smiley noted, but taking it seriously "recumbent" is
generally used in the context of "recumbent cycle", so the
answer is the pedals. However, the question actually becomes
quite legitimate when you ask if a handcycle conversion for
a wheelchair is valid (why not?), and if you let them in
then why not a chair powered directly by pushing on the
wheels (after all, the racing chairs in the right hands go
faster than many a bike and tend to travel in straighter
lines than many a bike too)?

Cycles tend to defy rigid categorisation, unless you're
legislating for race regulation compliance

Pete.
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Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle
lane yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing
phase at the lights was over then proceeded when the light
went green for the bikes*.

He was probably pushing the bloke Brian hit last summer.

Seriously though a pedestrian pushing a wheelchair plus
occupant is clearly still a pedestrian. However, I'm not
so sure about the status of a wheelchair occupant
propelling himself.

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