Interesting one this morning...

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a very sudden backward
surge into the cycle path and I hit him at well over 20 mph with the right
shoulder in a sort of braking slide.

The interesting thing about it was that he did a double rolling summersault
and I did a sudden stop with the momentum all transferred to the ped.

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to him as he was too
aggressive about it all. Could have been nasty though.

The joys of the Brighton cycle paths.

Brian

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A ped stepped backwards off the pavement into my path, without looking, to
let a POBOTP* pass! Nearly knocked said ped flat.

I hurled my usual "Push it!" at the POBOTP*.

*Person On a Bike On The Pavement

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle lane
yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing phase at the lights
was over then proceeded when the light went green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

richard

* which is of course oxymoronic, because as every car driver will tell
you the lights *always* appear green to cyclists.

Brian Drury said:

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a very sudden backward
surge into the cycle path and I hit him at well over 20 mph with the right
shoulder in a sort of braking slide.

The interesting thing about it was that he did a double rolling summersault
and I did a sudden stop with the momentum all transferred to the ped.

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to him as he was too
aggressive about it all. Could have been nasty though.

The joys of the Brighton cycle paths.

Brian

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Quoted message said:

A ped stepped backwards off the pavement into my path, without looking, to
let a POBOTP* pass! Nearly knocked said ped flat.

I hurled my usual "Push it!" at the POBOTP*.

*Person On a Bike On The Pavement

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:32:27 +0100, richard <[email hidden]>
wrote (more or less):

Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle lane
yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing phase at the lights
was over then proceeded when the light went green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

At a guess, he thinks that anything with wheels is a bike.

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a recumbent...
;-)
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:32:27 +0100, richard <[email hidden]>
wrote (more or less):

Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle lane
yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing phase at the lights
was over then proceeded when the light went green for the bikes*.

odd. and obstructive.

At a guess, he thinks that anything with wheels is a bike.

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a recumbent...

<kibology>
20 dollars, same as in town.
</kibology>

Alternatively, about 20 mph on the flat I'd guess.
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Gawnsoft said:

Still, what's the difference between a wheelchair and a recumbent...
;-)

Smiley noted, but taking it seriously "recumbent" is generally used in
the context of "recumbent cycle", so the answer is the pedals. However,
the question actually becomes quite legitimate when you ask if a
handcycle conversion for a wheelchair is valid (why not?), and if you
let them in then why not a chair powered directly by pushing on the
wheels (after all, the racing chairs in the right hands go faster than
many a bike and tend to travel in straighter lines than many a bike too)?

Cycles tend to defy rigid categorisation, unless you're legislating for
race regulation compliance

Pete.
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 22:13:56 +0100 someone who may be "Brian Drury"
<briandotdruryatdsldotpipexdotcom> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

I hit one of those reversing peds last summer. He did a very sudden backward
surge into the cycle path and I hit him at well over 20 mph with the right
shoulder in a sort of braking slide. [snip]

Quoted message said:

No damage to me but not sure how much damage was done to him as he was too
aggressive about it all.

Obviously it was your fault that he stepped backwards.

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Quoted message said:

Saw someone pushing a wheel chair down a segregated cycle lane
yesterday. Politely waited until the ped crossing phase at the lights
was over then proceeded when the light went green for the bikes*.

He was probably pushing the bloke Brian hit last summer.

Seriously though a pedestrian pushing a wheelchair plus occupant is
clearly still a pedestrian. However, I'm not so sure about the status
of a wheelchair occupant propelling himself.

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